Mag'har Orcs - Will it require BC/WoD achievements?

[thealmightymoo]

God I hope not, I hate outlands with a passion

[Aliven]

God forbid content should require a shred of work outside raiding.

Are you willfully ignorant?

[willtron]

Are you willfully ignorant?

If you want everything handed to you on a plate - go on the PTR and stand around in Dalaran.

It's a fucking game, if some minor requisites to play a reskinned race is really that big a deal to you, then vote with your wallet. It's really not a big deal.

[Restors]

I really hope that Blizz will go with Draenor Orcs.

But I think they'll go with Mag'har Orcs for the sole reason of them having a rep grind named after them.

that makes no sense. with that logic, same can be said bout laughing skull and frostwolf orcs because they have rep name after them.

[Aliven]

If you want everything handed to you on a plate - go on the PTR and stand around in Dalaran.

It's a fucking game, if some minor requisites to play a reskinned race is really that big a deal to you, then vote with your wallet. It's really not a big deal.

So willfully ignorant. Avatar pic checks out.

[TheKiserSoze]

I wouln't mind it. As long as the grind isn't ridiculous, I really don't mind putting in the work to unlock something.

I agree, but at the same time I can see the argument for having purchase of xpac be enough. Perhaps some middle ground - where you have to unlock to make it early but over time everyone gets access?

[Bathory]

I can see the argument for having purchase of xpac be enough.

I don't. Buying the xpac shouldn't/doesn't mean you get everything at purchase imo.

[Doffen]

Who doesn't have exalted with the mag'har anyway.

Arakkoa as allied race: Earn exalted with both Lower City and Arakkoa Outcast. Also need Talon King/Queen title. Now thats how it should be.

[Aigilas]

i think you may have to do the wod storyline for HFC, that way you understand why they would join you, i think it will be wod draenor orcs not the BC ones

[Deleted]

Really hope it's au draenor for one reason, Grom Hellscream.

[Darththeo]

https://wow.gamepedia.com/Mag%27har
It's a name specifically given to the uncorrupted orcs that lived in Garadar on our Outland. The term was never given to any clan or group of orcs on AU Draenor.

Did you even read your own source?

Years prior to the Blood Pact with Mannoroth,[4], a virulent plague known as the "red pox" spread among the orcish clans, and Geyah established a quarantine village in Nagrand, naming it Garadar[5] after Garad.[6] For reasons unclear, those that were quarantined managed to avoid the corruption that plagued even their parents and the rest of the world. The orcs, and Nagrand, come to be referred to as "mag'har" — which in Orcish means, literally, "uncorrupted".

The events that led the the creation of the Mag'har predate the timeline split with AU Draenor. Mag'har therefor more than likely existed in AU Draenor.

Also, Mag'har in Orcish merely means uncorrupted.

Again, the Mag'har Direwolf is currently only a place holder name. It is as of right now not it's final name.

[Destinas]

Did you even read your own source?

Years prior to the Blood Pact with Mannoroth,[4], a virulent plague known as the "red pox" spread among the orcish clans, and Geyah established a quarantine village in Nagrand, naming it Garadar[5] after Garad.[6] For reasons unclear, those that were quarantined managed to avoid the corruption that plagued even their parents and the rest of the world. The orcs, and Nagrand, come to be referred to as "mag'har" — which in Orcish means, literally, "uncorrupted".

The events that led the the creation of the Mag'har predate the timeline split with AU Draenor. Mag'har therefor more than likely existed in AU Draenor.

Also, Mag'har in Orcish merely means uncorrupted.

Again, the Mag'har Direwolf is currently only a place holder name. It is as of right now not it's final name.

Actually, we've seen that that's not the case on AU Draenor - Garadar doesn't exist on alternate Draenor. Geyah is with the Frostwolf clan in Frostfire Ridge (she becomes a follower), and the place where Garadar should exist is where Garrosh died - a small rock formation on plains, with no village. We know that AU Draenor has slightly altered events anyway (No Garrosh, Rulkan was alive, no Garadar), so it's not like you can read about our history and apply it 100% to the other timeline we've seen.

In our timeline, the Mag'har are differentiated because of the fact that all orcs, aside from those in Garadar, became corrupted. In the AU Draenor, the vast amount of orc clans and villages didn't drink the blood in the first place, and only a couple clans joined Gul'dan in HFC. Why would the majority of the race call themselves something different? If there was a group of humans (say, generously, 30% of the world's population) that suddenly had green skin, should the other 70% call themselves something different? No, the majority would call the minority something different. That's why there are Mag'har, specifically, in our Outland, but the term was never used (and should not be used) on AU Draenor.

Also, you're confused about how placeholder names and text are shown in testing phases. Usually, when the name is a placeholder, the "PH" is near the name (like the datamined pterrodax mount here). When the text and/or model is placeholder, the PH is at the bottom of the tooltip - which is the case for the Mag'har Direwolf.
http://beta.wowdb.com/spells/267274-...lf#26010-26032

Mag'har Direwolf
Account wide
1.5 sec cast
Summons and dismisses your Mag'har Direwolf.

Native to Draenor, these wolves are preferred by the Mag'har for their ferocity, loyalty, and for something to snuggle on those cool winter nights.
PH

[Darththeo]

Actually, we've seen that that's not the case on AU Draenor - Garadar doesn't exist on alternate Draenor. Geyah is with the Frostwolf clan in Frostfire Ridge (she becomes a follower), and the place where Garadar should exist is where Garrosh died - a small rock formation on plains, with no village. We know that AU Draenor has slightly altered events anyway (No Garrosh, Rulkan was alive, no Garadar), so it's not like you can read about our history and apply it 100% to the other timeline we've seen.

In our timeline, the Mag'har are differentiated because of the fact that all orcs, aside from those in Garadar, became corrupted. In the AU Draenor, the vast amount of orc clans and villages didn't drink the blood in the first place, and only a couple clans joined Gul'dan in HFC. Why would the majority of the race call themselves something different? If there was a group of humans (say, generously, 30% of the world's population) that suddenly had green skin, should the other 70% call themselves something different? No, the majority would call the minority something different. That's why there are Mag'har, specifically, in our Outland, but the term was never used (and should not be used) on AU Draenor.

Also, you're confused about how placeholder names and text are shown in testing phases. Usually, when the name is a placeholder, the "PH" is near the name (like the datamined pterrodax mount here). When the text and/or model is placeholder, the PH is at the bottom of the tooltip - which is the case for the Mag'har Direwolf.
http://beta.wowdb.com/spells/267274-...lf#26010-26032

Just because Garadar doesn't exist in AU Nagrand doesn't mean the Mag'har failed to exist ... do you know why? Garadar only existed because the Chieftains of the clans gave it space.

Also, again, Mag'har only means uncorrupted in Orcish. That's it. For all we know, after the events of WoD, the Draenor Orcs started calling themselves that. They don't tend to use Draenor when referring to Outland.

[TheramoreIsTheBomb]

i hope so....