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    I'd say every single DPS spec except (partially) mages and fury warr. And, once again, there are entire specs that were simply left to rot, like demo and survival, the greatest offender. It is stupid that a !@#$ing chicken can do not only more burst damage than an arcane mage, but it also has better DPS overall, as seen in many M raid logs.

    Being St. Valentine's day and what not, these specs do definitely need some love

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    Combat rogues, Outlaw was too much RNG and the gameplay wasn't that great in the beginning of the expansion(not sure how it's now).

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    Quote Originally Posted by gobio View Post
    I do not find any single spec / class in this game in the level of (being) "ruined", or "completely unplayable". Unless these words are fancy metaphoric piece of art literature that is beyond my comprehension.
    Just a term used by everyone to describe their class if they aren't chart topping and incredibly broken. Venture into any class forum. You'll surely find a thread about how awful their class is.

    Quote Originally Posted by reauxmont View Post
    Always so negative man, why not make a thread called "Classes that were made AMAZING in Legion"?
    Lmao, do you know what site you are on?

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    Guardian (Bear) Druid, I just can't find a transmog based on fist weapons that are fitting a Tauren.
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    shaman class, resto became more dull, and maelstrom is clunky and hammed into the specs. will say enhancements new spell graphics are nice, but then new casting animation for elemental/resto makes me cringe

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    From what I played, I am not a fan of current spriest. Numbers are fine, but gameplay is very meh. There is too much of a rush to jam between 3 buttons ASAP, little to no dot maintenance, and the let down when a mechanic of some minor mistime messes up the VF stacks. Having a spec reach ubsurd amounts of haste is honestly not fun for me whatsoever.

    I'll also give a vote to demo locks. I love the concept of mass summoning multiple demons, but the spec is purely a turret. Just about every single ability in the rotation is casted, at least one of them should have gone as an instant cast outside of the sporadic instant SB with talent. Also a shame that Soul Conduit is as strong as it is, would prefer to use Demonbolt for single target.
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    The 2 classes I play where completely destroyed this xpac.. Discipline Priest and Mistweaver Monk.

    Granted Discipline was also destroyed in WOD.

    Basically they took the good part of Mistweaver and gave it to Disc priest in order to remove absorbs. So one of the selling point of monk healers have been removed, dps-to-heal, and IMO they made disc a seriously boring class.. and I've been discipline since WOTLK, it made me give up the class completely.

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    Retribution in Legion has the "least" amount of "paladin fantasy" going on. As Blizzard said, they went too much into spec fantasy and we lost a lot of our identity.

    That, and they feel horribly clunky.

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    Demo lock for sure. It's incredibly frustrating. I really enjoyed the spec before Legion. I put it at 110 and haven't touched it since.

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    Played a friend’s Balance Druid for a few hours. Wow what a snooze fest. Especially after maining a Vengeance DH for a year.

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    its funny how easy to ruin fun for players :
    Warrior BFA talent :
    8.0.1 Build 25976
    Weapon Specialist One of your abilities is improved, based on the weapon you are wielding: Swords reduce the cooldown of Die by the Sword by 1 min, and you will counterattack all melees against you while it is active. Maces allow you to cast Victory Rush without killing an enemy, and killing an enemy will reset its cooldown. Axes and Polearms cause Hamstring to immobilize the enemy for 6 sec if they are already snared. Swords reduce the cooldown of Die by the Sword by 30 sec, and you will counterattack all melees against you while it is active. Axes and Polearms reduce the cooldown of Rallying Cry and Intimidating Shout by 20%, and increase their duration by 50%. Arms Warrior - Level 30 Talent.


    8.0.1 Build 26032
    Weapon Specialist :
    One of your abilities is improved, based on the weapon you are wielding:
    Maces allow you to cast Victory Rush without killing an enemy, and killing an enemy will reset its cooldown.
    Sword bonus unlocked at Level 36.
    Axe and Polearm bonus unlocked at Level 70.
    Fury:
    One of your abilities is improved, based on the weapon you are wielding:
    Maces allow you to cast Victory Rush without killing an enemy, and killing an enemy will reset its cooldown.
    Sword bonus unlocked at Level 36.
    Axes and Polearms reduce the cooldown of Rallying Cry and Intimidating Shout by 20%, and increase their duration by 50%.
    Removed

    Jhonny : "Lets add some unique interesting talent to warriors?";
    after a week
    Jhonny : "Nah, its okay as it was, remove that s`it"
    Please, there a perfect example of hypocritical thinking:
    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    If Tinkers had anything to do with Hunters, but they don’t. Unlike Bards which are linked to Rogues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felixon View Post
    Hi!

    If before I made a topic about the classes you can't force youself to play,today I would like to discuss a bit different matter - the Legion is at end with it's ups and downs,and I would like to ask you all - what's the class,that you think,was ruined by the changes implemented in the Legion? I personally would name two:
    Hunters - I always enjoyed to play my hunter,but the changes it got in the Legion made the whole class completely unplayable for me.MM should get some additional active abilities;BM is a total faceroll spec with a few abilities to use and survival is just boring.
    Warriors - I know that warriors are quite popular,mainly fury,but I don't find it too challenging.I also am having a feeling,that fury is primitively easy to play and it lacks some abilities.I was hoping that arms will be fine,but compared to fury,the damage is low.I'm not going to talk about the prot spec,since I haven't played it too much the Legion.

    I also find,that both of the above mention specs are having a serious survivability issues - I'm not saying,that warriors should as unkillable as they were when they had the original Second wind,but even the leveling seemed quite annoying as arms,fury was a tiny bit better,but it's also hard to rely on 1 self healing cd. The hunter situation with 1 self heal wasn't much better and it really lacks the old spirit bond,which provided a passive self heal.PvP wise,I would say,that hunter in the Legion is the weakest class and is far away from it's former glory.Warriors are in a better state,yet their self healing problems made them very dependable on the healer yet again.

    Well,these are my thoughts.Please,share yours!
    None got ruined but some might be in BFA

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    Quote Originally Posted by cocomen2 View Post
    its funny how easy to ruin fun for players :
    Warrior BFA talent :
    8.0.1 Build 25976
    Weapon Specialist One of your abilities is improved, based on the weapon you are wielding: Swords reduce the cooldown of Die by the Sword by 1 min, and you will counterattack all melees against you while it is active. Maces allow you to cast Victory Rush without killing an enemy, and killing an enemy will reset its cooldown. Axes and Polearms cause Hamstring to immobilize the enemy for 6 sec if they are already snared. Swords reduce the cooldown of Die by the Sword by 30 sec, and you will counterattack all melees against you while it is active. Axes and Polearms reduce the cooldown of Rallying Cry and Intimidating Shout by 20%, and increase their duration by 50%. Arms Warrior - Level 30 Talent.


    8.0.1 Build 26032
    Weapon Specialist :
    One of your abilities is improved, based on the weapon you are wielding:
    Maces allow you to cast Victory Rush without killing an enemy, and killing an enemy will reset its cooldown.
    Sword bonus unlocked at Level 36.
    Axe and Polearm bonus unlocked at Level 70.
    Fury:
    One of your abilities is improved, based on the weapon you are wielding:
    Maces allow you to cast Victory Rush without killing an enemy, and killing an enemy will reset its cooldown.
    Sword bonus unlocked at Level 36.
    Axes and Polearms reduce the cooldown of Rallying Cry and Intimidating Shout by 20%, and increase their duration by 50%.
    Removed

    Jhonny : "Lets add some unique interesting talent to warriors?";
    after a week
    Jhonny : "Nah, its okay as it was, remove that s`it"
    In all honesty, even the BC/WotLK weapon specializations were more interesting than that B4A alpha crap

  14. #34
    Almost all of them leaded by hunter, BM is faceroll , SV is just keep an infinite amout of anoying (de)buffs , MM is the best spec but just because is Meh.

  15. #35
    Soo many classes dumbed down to retard mode.

    Hunter is now boring as fuck, BM is pathetic and MM is a snoozefest.
    Warlock (Affliction) low effort high reward - also snoozefest.

    Few classes rely way too heavily on Legendaries and some classes are just so badly tuned it's embarrassing.

    My favourite play style is shadow (void) priest, high APM, no downtime of buttons to mash - however requires great gear to compete overall.

  16. #36
    I will not play my warlock ever again.
    Horseshit.

  17. #37
    they killed pretty much every dps in legion but i think that hunters, locks, and rogues suffered the most from the class fantasy genocide

  18. #38
    BM Hunters, its a 3 button spec with no interesting Cds and no cool animations to make it interesting.

    Most specs, even Survival, have a "good" balance of Animation-Damage-Rotation.

    BM doesn't.If you put the spells without names, icons or animations and just dealt "X" amount of damage, it wouldn't be much different.

    And unlike many, i love Outlawn and like Demonology(but i believe it needs a few more things to make it the best)

    But what can i say, I main a Dk, i got the best deal of all of the classes.
    Mage Tower Final Result:
    Dk:3/3 Mage:3/3 Mage:3/3 Mage:1/3 Dh:2/2 Warlock:3/3 Hunter: 3/3 Priest:3/3 Paladin:3/3 Warrior: 3/3 Rogue:3/3 Shaman:3/3 Monk:3/3 Druid: 4/4

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