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  1. #81
    Quote Originally Posted by Vakna View Post
    Imagine this combined with Skittish, you may as well just not bring a tank.
    Skittish in it's current state is laughable to most tank specs. Really only Guardian who might still have issues with it, and even then only when paired with extreme AOE dps specs.

    For the other tank specs, it just exposes the bad tanks if they have issues with it still. It's been nerfed into the ground, taunt always made it non existent for ST(even before the nerf) and tank AoE has scaled well enough to make it a non issue for most specs.

    Skittish is basically a free non affix when it happens now.
    Last edited by Tech614; 2018-02-19 at 07:32 AM.

  2. #82
    Quote Originally Posted by Tech614 View Post
    Skittish in it's current state is laughable to most tank specs. Really only Guardian who might still have issues with it, and even then only when paired with extreme AOE dps specs.

    For the other tank specs, it just exposes the bad tanks if they have issues with it still. It's been nerfed into the ground, taunt always made it non existent for ST(even before the nerf) and tank AoE has scaled well enough to make it a non issue for most specs.

    Skittish is basically a free non affix when it happens now.
    Eh? Guardian is literally the easiest tank ever for skittish, their aoe dps is off the charts. Tank I found that most suffers is Warrior, since you have no dmg outside your burst window (compared to other tanks).
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  3. #83
    Quote Originally Posted by Vakna View Post
    Eh? Guardian is literally the easiest tank ever for skittish, their aoe dps is off the charts. Tank I found that most suffers is Warrior, since you have no dmg outside your burst window (compared to other tanks).
    I hope your joking, Guardian aoe damage is literally a joke outside of incarnation. They have the worst aoe damage of any tank spec in the game, they have the most aoe burst potential but that's all it is and only usable for a few packs per dungeon.

  4. #84
    might be pre cool when spectating an M+ tournament... playing it, not as much lol. Another affix to blame for heals "stop maxing us we do less dmg, zomg heal we're dying"

  5. #85
    to all of you saying this will be hard for the healers, killing pugs and making high tyranical bosses impossible and whatnot. We don't even know if its a player buff/debuff or a mob one. It might be a third option to tier 3 affixes. Instead of tyranical you get blight and it make the boss hit harder the lower he is.

  6. #86
    I suppose it could actually work for groups who know how to dodge all avoidable damage. Then, their healers could learn when DPS aren't in any sort of threat of dying when at low HP. Then you would actually have a affix helping you for once.

    All depends on the numbers, I guess.

  7. #87
    Quote Originally Posted by Tech614 View Post
    I hope your joking, Guardian aoe damage is literally a joke outside of incarnation. They have the worst aoe damage of any tank spec in the game, they have the most aoe burst potential but that's all it is and only usable for a few packs per dungeon.
    You've clearly not been playing with moonbears. Boomkin shoulder+Guardian cloak+ Galactic guardian (rather than incarnation) gives guardians the second-best sustained AOE damage (only below paladins playing with legs+shoulders), and it's tied to *zero* cooldowns. Bonus points if you have a high ilvl glaive from Tomb, as the cloak buffs the Glaive damage by 30%, making it hit for as much as a normal DPS would (a long with healing you for the damage).

    Incarnation kind of went the way of the dodo in the middle of tomb, so if you still see bears using it, they're either doing mythic progress (where they're forced into defensive legendaries, for the sake of surviving), they don't *have* the moonkin shoulders, or they're just bad.

  8. #88
    I cant wait for the week with Blight/Grevious/Fortified affix

  9. #89
    Quote Originally Posted by Tech614 View Post
    I hope your joking, Guardian aoe damage is literally a joke outside of incarnation. They have the worst aoe damage of any tank spec in the game, they have the most aoe burst potential but that's all it is and only usable for a few packs per dungeon.
    Incarnation in 2018 lul.

    You need to up your game and get in on that juicy Lady/Force/GG gameplay. Half the time I'm even ahead of some dps specs.
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  10. #90
    Quote Originally Posted by Vakna View Post
    Incarnation in 2018 lul.

    You need to up your game and get in on that juicy Lady/Force/GG gameplay. Half the time I'm even ahead of some dps specs.
    Half the time you're ahead of some dps specs?

    Grats, literally all the time VDH and Prot Pal are ahead of quite a few dps specs. In VDH case, it doesn't even take CDs.

    Guardian AoE dame LUL, must be why the top ranked druid tank for mythic+ is sitting in the 100s LUL.

  11. #91
    Quote Originally Posted by Tech614 View Post
    Half the time you're ahead of some dps specs?

    Grats, literally all the time VDH and Prot Pal are ahead of quite a few dps specs. In VDH case, it doesn't even take CDs.

    Guardian AoE dame LUL, must be why the top ranked druid tank for mythic+ is sitting in the 100s LUL.
    If you think that's the reason why the top guardian is in the 100's then that perfectly explains why you're so clueless about the M+ scene atm. Guardian sustained aoe dmg is fucking incredible regardless of whether you want to believe it or not - and no, it doesn't rely on cooldowns either so I'm not sure why you brought that up.
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  12. #92
    4 prot warriors 1 disc priest setup inc, get super low hp, take the upto 100% ignore pain based on health missing talent, just gotta absorb everything never need heals!

  13. #93
    Quote Originally Posted by Tech614 View Post
    Half the time you're ahead of some dps specs?

    Grats, literally all the time VDH and Prot Pal are ahead of quite a few dps specs. In VDH case, it doesn't even take CDs.

    Guardian AoE dame LUL, must be why the top ranked druid tank for mythic+ is sitting in the 100s LUL.

    Guardians AOE damage is superb. Their single target is shitty, and they lack on-demand magic cooldowns since having mark of ursol removed (something that's painfully obvious on EG high tyrannical MOS keys) - and have some of the shittiest utility to boot (speed increase + knockback). There's a reason druids aren't taken for super high keys, but if you can't identify the correct one, maybe don't go "LURL THEIR AOE SUCK" considering you seem to think Incarnation is still a thing.

  14. #94
    Quote Originally Posted by ItsTiddles View Post
    Ah yes, jobs! It's a tanks job to pull, a healers job to keep said tank alive, and a dps job to kill things dead. Doing more than your allotted job is absolutely outrageous. The tank is using dps trinkets? Blasphemy. A healer casting dps abilities? lolremoved. Oh my god that dps pulled for the tank? Ban him!

    Or... Don't try to force your approach on the game on everyone else. I will use my free globals to dps and there is nothing you can do to stop me. Feel free to afk when you're healing a group that isn't at any risk of dying.
    I am not forcing my opinion per se, I just said that is what I hoped for, to not have any hybrid jobs. I would prefer a game with set roles. OR actually speccs who are meant to be hybrid.
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  15. #95
    I just don't see this affix going live in its current form if its applied to players ... unless the damage reduction at full health is so miniscule the affix is essentially ignored. This affix gets worse as a healer becomes better geared. Healers can't control the strength of their heals. If you're forced to try to maintain a group at ~80% health, that is going to make it living hell for healers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kluian05 View Post
    I just don't see this affix going live in its current form if its applied to players ... unless the damage reduction at full health is so miniscule the affix is essentially ignored. This affix gets worse as a healer becomes better geared. Healers can't control the strength of their heals. If you're forced to try to maintain a group at ~80% health, that is going to make it living hell for healers.
    It would be absurd if the damage reduction wasn't noticeable. Affixes are meant to slow the dungeon down in one way or another, this one wont be any different.

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  17. #97
    Whats weird about the affix is the wording. All affix texts are like this "the players" "non boss enemies" "all enemies". There is not a single affix which didn't mention who it is applied to. Even volcanic has it. It is missing for blight. I still don't think it applies to players. Would be to punishing on high keys now.

    Even if the designed the BfA dungeons with myth+ in mind and don't add one shot bosses and trash it would be really punishing. As a tank I do this all the time (stepping in shit to empower my ward or blood mirror). Its not really fun. Pinnacle of get hit, kill enemy was mop. Just check the first kills of the spirit kings. Blizzard scrapped the revenge abuse, I don't think the would bring it back as affix.

  18. #98
    Quote Originally Posted by Vluffyvlaush View Post
    Whats weird about the affix is the wording. All affix texts are like this "the players" "non boss enemies" "all enemies". There is not a single affix which didn't mention who it is applied to. Even volcanic has it. It is missing for blight. I still don't think it applies to players. Would be to punishing on high keys now.

    Even if the designed the BfA dungeons with myth+ in mind and don't add one shot bosses and trash it would be really punishing. As a tank I do this all the time (stepping in shit to empower my ward or blood mirror). Its not really fun. Pinnacle of get hit, kill enemy was mop. Just check the first kills of the spirit kings. Blizzard scrapped the revenge abuse, I don't think the would bring it back as affix.
    I think it's fairly obvious to say the affix is applied to players because why have the part about "less damage and healing at full health". Why have that mechanic at all for an NPC? Rarely do things heal. Blight would they be another form of Raging if it was applied to just NPC's (though Blight would include Bosses too).

  19. #99
    As a restodruid I am not looking forward for people qqing about hots decreasing their dps

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