i meant for the "bad guy" thing as, Garrosh eventually went from "look after my people the horde" to "look after the orcs" to "the true horde". eventually blizzard muddled him down to a guy who thought he could control the old od's power but ended up nearly consumed by it and had to be put down. the horde had to band together and the alliance to take him down. in contrast to him, anduin was also chasing the divine bell, but he would rather have it destroyed than used against people. i loved garrosh honestly he had so much to him, from outland, to northrend, and through cata into mists. But he ended off pretty badly. I am just a bit apprehensive, because sylvannas slowly seems to be heading in that same direction and hopefully doesnt because her character is pretty damn cool to just end up as a raid boss.
I can agree that of course some parties believe the forsaken should be wiped out. Similarly some parties believe that some alliance races need to be wiped out. That is just the general theme of the game. it gets complicated if one side keeps going down the path of world conquering genocide constantly. I mean we the players know that garrosh did not represent the darkspears or the tauren and some orcs. We know that garithos did not represent the draenei or night elves. But it gets kind of...over used when the villian's banners are red and horde symbol constantly. im just hoping they dont do that again.
As per the lorewalker scenario, if the horde does succeed in conquering the world, as in end the alliance, the world would be lost/destroyed. As per that scenario when garrosh wins, for a time there is peace. then the faceless attack from the depths and the horde cannot stop them alone, and azeroth is lost.
I can completely agree with the alliance saving their world and way of living vs the horde battle for survival. I have said it many times that the horde is complex and the horde is what adds spice to the story of warcraft. Without the orcish invasion we would just be a general planet, of some kings and queens and farmers. The horde brought strife and story, got battles to happen, stories to be written and legends happen on both sides.
one thing they have made clear (from not just a business point of view but story too) that both factions are needed to keep this world safe and moving forward, by lore and mechanics. alliance cant do it alone, horde cant do it alone. neither faction will ever gain a clear upper hand. so all that really leaves which side is good and which is bad. i personally like that both sides can be argued upon, the horde is just a bit controversial, but that is just their nature. i mean people can say, well! garrosh nearly ruined azeroth! someone can say, yea im sure Arthas helped heal the world did he? Benedictus joined deathwing and the twilights hammer! someone can say, oh and darkan did what again?
players should definitely know better and i think when that azshara scenario happens, players will probably go to their faction leaders, and knock some sense into them.
Blood Elves were based on a STRONG request from a poll of Asian players where many remarked on the Horde side that they and their girlfriends wanted a non-creepy femme race to play (Source)
After some deliberation, I think the new dialogue makes her look slightly less villainous. If only because the new dialogue makes it sound like the war has already started and burning Teldrassil is simply a strategic decision.
However, the old dialogue made Sylvanas' character look more proactive and complex, the new one is pretty blunt and lacks a clear endgame(though Sylvanas might just be playing her cards close to her chest)
I hope she keeps her "Kalimdor for the Horde" masterplan but fleshes out a little bit, it needs to include a plan for the Blood Elves and a process for removing the remaining Alliance strongholds on Kalimdor.
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I hope this is the case. This text is fine for the in-game event but the old plot made the story way more interesting
Well arguably the war has already started in Silithus. But yeah I agree, I preferred her old reasoning over Teldrassil being a port to smuggle Azerite over to EK. At least we knew what the endgame is, and it's interesting one at that.
It could also be that it becomes her goal after Undercity falls though, so maybe that's why they removed it from Teldrassil scenario?
Mage Tower Final Result:
Dk:3/3 Mage:3/3 Mage:3/3 Mage:1/3 Dh:2/2 Warlock:3/3 Hunter: 3/3 Priest:3/3 Paladin:3/3 Warrior: 3/3 Rogue:3/3 Shaman:3/3 Monk:3/3 Druid: 4/4
Mage Tower Final Result:
Dk:3/3 Mage:3/3 Mage:3/3 Mage:1/3 Dh:2/2 Warlock:3/3 Hunter: 3/3 Priest:3/3 Paladin:3/3 Warrior: 3/3 Rogue:3/3 Shaman:3/3 Monk:3/3 Druid: 4/4
The Alliance Magical Fleet! It can go from Stormwind to Darnassus and Lordaeron without anyone even noticing it! Worse, the Alliance can fucking invade the South Barrens and Mulgore AGAIN after Zul burn the Magical Fleet!
I mean, I'm usually roleplay a neutral Alliance dwarf, but goddammit, with these magical powers, I'll become a true believer of the Young Lion of Stormwind...
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How the hell can the Alliance transport Azerite from Silithus to Feralas with the Horde controling the zone?
Dude neither Alliance nor Horde have big outposts in Un'Goro/Tanaris/1k Needles.
Its free way for Alliance from Silithus - Feralas.
I'm not talking about Alliance could make mountain route Silithus - Feralas and completely skip these zones. Or use old Silithid tunnel system.