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  1. #141
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moscovian Candidate View Post
    Sylvanus has been acting like a nazi since Cataclysm. Just play the Worgen start area, fucking Garrosh is the less extreme one, trying to tell her not to use the plague: which she proceeds to use anyways. That also shows she ignored her Warchief's orders, which just proves that she isn't even loyal to the Horde at all.

    Sounds like someone who obtained this position of power only to destroy it from the inside for her own gain.
    Not saying that Sylvanas is good but...

    The whole Gilneas debacle was Garrosh fault, he forced the Forsaken to fight the Gilneas, he was even using the Forsaken as cannon fodder, making sure as many of them died in the process cause they were not part of "his horde", so having Sylvanas ignore Garrosh order is not much of a stretch, nor anything to do with loyalty, you could even say the Forsaken were betrayed by Garrosh.

    NOTE: Sylvanas short story (if you wish to check this)

  2. #142
    If she controls Saurfang, she controls the orcs. Obviously she wants to keep him close.

  3. #143
    Quote Originally Posted by Broken Fox View Post
    Nah giving your life to defend your home and resisting to your last breath is most definitely honorable. Stop being a trolly little hoe.
    being captured and tortured like a pig isn't honorable. It's why Samurais and Japanese Soldiers would commit Seppuku to avoid a dishonorable death in captivity.

    Sylvanas is a shit tier character.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brewmaster Kolee View Post

    They killed the only troll with any lore attached. I don't know what to expect from Blizz anymore. Still pissed about how they treated Vol'jin, tbh.
    but they are not that much stupid to do the same mistake again when the community was very against it

    at last is what i think

  5. #145
    Quote Originally Posted by Friendlyimmolation View Post
    or instead of tooting your "everyone is a Sylvanas fanboy" horn and making sweeping generalizations. You could potentially figure out people just don't like Saurfang being suicidal.

    You would know that of course if you actually read people's complaints instead of immediately shrieking about Sylvanas.
    But so tell me. Did sylvanas taunt saurfang about his dead son?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramlen View Post
    You can stop right there. You nailed why she is the way she is (presently) and don't need to shove your own feelings about why you think Sylvanas is a Meanie. She is what she is.
    She may be that way and unable/unwilling to change, but that just makes her a poor leader. being unable to sympathies, and taking a my way or the high way approach can end up costing you your allies. Not to say that you don't need a back bone as well, but insulting something you know is very valuable to someone then making a joke about their dead son isn't going to make them say "huh you know you're right", it's going to make them punch you in the face.

  7. #147
    She is taunting him. Just because she has a motive behind it doesn't mean it wasn't a taunt. She even threatened to turn him into an undead orc (which is what the lich king did to his son).

    It remains to be seen whether or not her brash way of leading will pay off.
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    and yelled to the trainer "yo resto cya."
    Looked at my talent tree, i was finally there.
    To go to Karazhan and tank in dire bear."
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  8. #148
    Quote Originally Posted by Meat Rubbing Specialist View Post
    She was getting tortured for Arthas' amusement when she drew her last breath. She wasn't defending anyone when she died.

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    Because she died in captivity like a pig.
    You're a Sylvanas hater. Got it. Literally nothing anyone says will ever change your opinion. Peace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meat Rubbing Specialist View Post
    being captured and tortured like a pig isn't honorable. It's why Samurais and Japanese Soldiers would commit Seppuku to avoid a dishonorable death in captivity.

    Sylvanas is a shit tier character.
    Do you have ANY goddamned idea how many Characters in Warcraft Lore have been captured and tortured?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ragemv View Post
    But so tell me. Did sylvanas taunt saurfang about his dead son?
    Of course she did, anything to pull saurfang out of his “let me die” plan, but even that didn’t seem to work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meat Rubbing Specialist View Post
    being captured and tortured like a pig isn't honorable. It's why Samurais and Japanese Soldiers would commit Seppuku to avoid a dishonorable death in captivity.

    Sylvanas is a shit tier character.
    So is varian, Malfurion, hell any character that is captured. What a truly awful argument you have here.

    Not to mention Sylvanas delayed the scourge, more people escaped because of her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WoWKnight65 View Post
    That's same excuse from you and so many others on this website and your right some of threads do bully high elf fans to a point where they might end up losing their minds to a point of a mass shooting.

  10. #150
    Quote Originally Posted by ANeM View Post
    Lor'themar Theron has been leading the blood elves of Silvermoon since Kael'thas left for Outland the better part of a decade ago. He was an experienced military leader before being given the position, essentially having Sylvanas' old position as Ranger-General. With help from Halduron and Rommath has managed to reclaim much of Quel'Thalas and restore Silvermoon. He has much the same background as Sylvanas, nearly as much experience (having been her second in command and successor) and joined the Horde only about a year after her.

    If he were to take the mantle of Warchief in BFA he would have essentially the same resume that Sylvanas did at the start of Legion.
    And neither of them have alot of experience in fighting pitched battles and seiges.

    Kelthas took the bulk of the blood elf army to outland where it was destroyed / fel to the legion. The new blood elves are mostly rangers like lothermar who specialise in gorilla warfare and the new blood knights who now make up the main battle line with the blood golem's as seen in wod and legion in the suramar campaign.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Friendlyimmolation View Post
    Lor'themar was Sylvanas's second, he outranked people like Alleria etc.

    Sylvanas lead the armies of Silvermoon against the orcs when they invaded, and the Forsaken fought and beat the Alliance on multiple fronts in Cata.

    Etrigg, served under Blackhand just like Saurfang etc.
    Sylvanas and lothermar are gorilla warfare specialists. When fighting the Orcs and Undead they waged a hit and run defence with the main defence of the city under the command of someone else.

    The undead in cata never successfully fought a conventional pitch battle and always had to resort to mass bombardment with the plague. See south shore and the end of gilneas.

    Etrig I forgot about. Mostly because I haven't seen him do much for year's :/
    But avoid foolish controversies, genealogies, dissensions, and quarrels about the law, for they are unprofitable and worthless. Titus 3:19

  11. #151
    Quote Originally Posted by Broken Fox View Post
    If it was gonna happen, it would have happened already. Plus he’s old as balls and doesn’t want the job anyway. He works better as a number 2. It’s like when people clamor for Rexxar to be Warchief despite the fact that he fucking hates most people/politics and had to practically be begged to join the Horde in the first place.

    People build shit up in their heads and get mad when the story doesn’t follow their head canon haha
    Sylvanas was the last person that was expected to be warchief. Blizzard can always twist things up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meat Rubbing Specialist View Post
    She was getting tortured for Arthas' amusement when she drew her last breath. She wasn't defending anyone when she died.

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    Because she died in captivity like a pig.
    Ah I see, so it's confirmed that Varian's death was dishonorable too.

  13. #153
    Yes, this is bump, but for a reason
    http://www.wowhead.com/quest=43751
    The Alliance version of this quest
    Blow up a ship, a forsaken ship, filled with Blight
    Its called the deathbringer, just like Saurfang the Younger was called when the Lich King made him into a DK, I'd say Sylvanas was already dissing Saurfang

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