Active shooter situation at Florida high school, at least 20 injured so far

[Dextroden]

You realize the difference is that countries/cities are actually trying to stop terrorism attacks right? 'Paris Strong' isn't about 'sigh, oh well there was another one' but about remaining defiant in the face of attacks.

Terrorist attacks are not met with weary resignation like yet another mass shooting in the US is.

That's the wonderfully terrible thing about these things. They're harder to preemptively catch than people planning an attack.

And they are a weary resignation. That's why you have terrorists like we have shooters. If we don't care, you do not either.

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Yea but catching the gunman isn't gonna solve anything. Sadly there's no secret society of school shooters so you can catch them before they strike. But there are other ways of preventing it, but nothing will happen as long as the gun lobby run things. I'm not french, i just latched onto your comparison.

You got mad because I said something about the dead. That's the point.

Guns are banned. Shooting still happens. What can you say now?

[Erbel]

I've got a better idea: ban guns.

Best regards,

Europe.
PS: We don't carry guns and have no school shootings. Just a thought.

Correct. What you do have is an increasingly volatile issue with your leaders inviting a feral invasive species into your countries in massive droves and encouraging them to destroy your culture, rape your women, and bankrupt your country trying to give them everything.

I'll take the occasional shooting over my livelihood being completely taken away.

[Priestiality]

People who go straight to politics as soon as they hear people are dead, standing on the dead as some sort of political point scoring need to fuck off. Regardless of what you believe people have died en masse today, so today is not the time for politics.

Yep, it's too soon. And then juuuuuust before it's been long enough to stop sending thoughts and prayers and have a meaningful debate about it, another shooting happens, and it's too soon again. Repeat ad infinitum.

[Ghostpanther]

If there can be a cultural change without the need for federal gun control legislation, that would clearly be preferable, but do you think such a change is possible or is “business as usual” the more likely long term approach?

Of course. But we are use to having a firearm for self defense here in the US. It is one of the core elements of our culture. And no, we do need some other better gun control. Not a lot as such. But more a stronger enforcement of the laws we do have. The one lacking, which I fully support is Universal back ground checks and no private sales of firearms without one being done would be good.

[JohnBrown1917]

Nope. You lack a understanding of our Constitutional process to amend it. And it is not done by popular vote. Think of it somewhat like how we elect a President. Only even more requirements. After a 2/3 Congressional call for a amendment, 3/4 of the States have to ratify it. The representatives of each State must vote for it. Of those who do, for a amendment to pass, 3/4 of the states must approve it.

So.. by popular opinion.

got it.

[Gorsameth]

That's the wonderfully terrible thing about these things. They're harder to preemptively catch than people planning an attack.

And they are a weary resignation. That's why you have terrorists like we have shooters. If we don't care, you do not either.

I wasn't aware Europe was suffering from a terrorist attack every 1.5 days in the way the US has a mass shooting. Must be my weary resignation

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That's the wonderfully terrible thing about these things. They're harder to preemptively catch than people planning an attack.

And they are a weary resignation. That's why you have terrorists like we have shooters. If we don't care, you do not either.

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You got mad because I said something about the dead. That's the point.

Guns are banned. Shooting still happens. What can you say now?

The difference is most of the terrorists in Europe are from a certain group of outsiders but most of the shooters in the USA are home grown white folks, guns are not the issue healthcare is.

[urasim]

Contrary to popular belief, authorities are combating terrorism.

I'm sure they are. Just like they're combating mass shootings in the US. But there are still an alarming amount of terrorism going on.

[MikeBogina]

Sounds pretty irresponsible to not mention this to anyone. How often do people joke about shooting up a school? Is this normal enough to not be alarmed?

https://imgur.com/a/wQmKl

He wasn't very subtle about this with his friends, i know friends joke and stuff but this was way too obvious that he was a potential shooter.

[Ghostpanther]

I agree, but we are not doing that. I mean, even most conservative/republicans agree to *some* small measures in gun control now, but still nothing is being done... that is what I meant.

I agree more could be done. But some good steps would not even involve more gun control laws.

[DarkAmbient]

guns are not the issue healthcare is.

You don't actually believe that, do you?

[Ghostpanther]

We just need people to do their jobs better. The military adding 4k people to the ban registry after they got caught with their pants down is unacceptable.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a8207686.html

Absolutely. That was one example of how the law enforcement failed to enforce and follow the law too.

[Dextroden]

That's actually a logical fallacy. Terrorists and school shooters can have similarities, but the path to violence is completely different.

Person who has slight with society opens fire on/drives through a public space for some form of "justice".

Hmm.

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Well, since my thoughts and prayers are useless, I guess I'll raise awareness in Twitter instead.

[Shaderas]

Why are you here? Oh right, masturbation and mod allowed nation bashing.

Honestly, I think we deserve a little bashing, because this happens so much more often in our country, than the other first world countries.

[Dextroden]

I wasn't aware Europe was suffering from a terrorist attack every 1.5 days in the way the US has a mass shooting. Must be my weary resignation

Oh. You only care about people that die in big shootings, not individual shooting victims.

Noted for the future.

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You don't actually believe that, do you?

I sure do, plenty of places in the EU have guns but have none of this shit, the USA leaves the mentally ill to rot and that needs addressing.

[Dextroden]

Honestly, I think we deserve a little bashing, because this happens so much more often in our country, than the other first world countries.

Awesome. Start a forum where nation bashing isn't supposed to be banned and go nuts.

Or continue here because the rules are inconsistent.

[Gorsameth]

Oh. You only care about people that die in big shootings, not individual shooting victims.

Noted for the future.

You think the US comes out better when we include all victims of gun violence?
your funny.

[Dextroden]

Still a logical fallacy. You can boil it down to as simple as person kills other people because they feel rejected. It doesn't mean the path to violence is always the same. Or that they're using violence for the same reasons.

That's like saying the weapon choice doesn't matter. And I'd love for you to say that.