EU: Hungarian City "Too White And Christian" To Be Capital of European Culture

[warlordoflordwar]

Not really. I just have no patience for countries which still have nazi sympathizers

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I dunno you're regurgitating nazi rhetoric so maybe you didn't learn much

You don't understand anything.

[Mormolyce]

EU continues it's new world order crusade to exterminate the european peoples.

Aaaaand another white supremacist conspiracy theory.

[Mihalik]

That’s how it’s done. The sad part is you go to read it and you hear that Homer Simpson “d’oh” by the time you realize what you just said is true.

My question is why the he’ll cant people leave Hungary alone. They seem to be alright.

Because of the rise of right wing nuttyness there and dudes like Viktor Orban essentially becoming the poster boys of resurgent right wing extremism due to their ties with such groups and the fact that they actually wield political power.

I mean in the past it was just a semi irrelevant small central European country, mostly known for the invention of the Rubik's Cube, Paprika and Ghoulas, but if anything they were warning to the coming wave of Trumps and LePens.

[Raqubor]

Because of the rise of right wing nuttyness there and dudes like Viktor Orban essentially becoming the poster boys of resurgent right wing extremism due to their ties with such groups and the fact that they actually wield political power.

I mean in the past it was just a semi irrelevant small central European country, mostly known for the invention of the Rubik's Cube, Paprika and Ghoulas, but if anything they were warning to the coming wave of Trumps and LePens.

I could list you a lot more things the Hungarians invented or were involved with inventing, but I'm pretty sure we are way off-topic now.
Read here: https://welovebudapest.com/en/toplis...ere-hungarian/

Can we go back to the OP, or just stop here?

[Mihalik]

You don't understand anything.

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Just don't go full Breivik on us there, ok?

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I could list you a lot more things the Hungarians invented or were involved with inventing, but I'm pretty sure we are way off-topic now.
Read here: https://welovebudapest.com/en/toplis...ere-hungarian/

Can we go back to the OP, or just stop here?

I know man, it's just an answer to the question of why the domestic politics of tiny country are relevant to rest of the world.

[Macaquerie]

You don't actually need to dig up 1000 year old DNA to compare. You just follow the language group. Hungarian belongs to the Fino-Ugric group.

You just need to compare the genetics of groups that never left Asia, like the Khanty and Mansi. I mean not like there's much genetic relation between Sami/Finns and Hungarians, let alone with central Siberian ethnic groups.

I'm curious though as to how much of that represents actual mass population transfer, and how much of it is just a small group of migrating nomads that imposed their language and culture on the pre-existing population of peasants. I'm guessing that in most places throughout most of history, it was the latter, with the colonization of the Americas being the major notable exception.

My understanding of the history of the Old World is pretty much that you had major population centers in Europe, Mesopotamia, Egypt, India, and China, and then this vast tract of mostly empty space between them populated by nomadic horse cultures that would periodically conquer and rule over the peasant populations in the settled agricultural regions. And while the ruling classes would impart their identity on the masses, due to their small numbers they would largely be assimilated leaving little genetic trace behind.

[Deleted]

Right. Where is your proof that it is fake news? I understand you have your bias and you believe in whatever you like, but at least provide some facts.

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Breitbart links. Go fuck yourself.

[Torto]

I am from Norway, and we for the most part collaborated with the germans. Denmark elected a pro-Hitler governement. But I guess it's ok since we're taking new world order dick in our ass and replacing our population. It's the only way for white people to relieve themselves of the SIN of being white (according to the marxist religion).

You will quickly discover, if you haven't already, that most people in GenOT are strong believers in open borders who thinks anyone wanting to preserve European culture must be an extremist. It can be a little intimidating at first but once you realise they are all just ideologically left and suffering from white guilt you will begin to laugh at them.

[Mihalik]

I'm curious though as to how much of that represents actual mass population transfer, and how much of it is just a small group of migrating nomads that imposed their language and culture on the pre-existing population of peasants. I'm guessing that in most places throughout most of history, it was the latter, with the colonization of the Americas being the major notable exception.

My understanding of the history of the Old World is pretty much that you had major population centers in Europe, Mesopotamia, Egypt, India, and China, and then this vast tract of mostly empty space between them populated by nomadic horse cultures that would periodically conquer and rule over the peasant populations in the settled agricultural regions. And while the ruling classes would impart their identity on the masses, due to their small numbers they would largely be assimilated leaving little genetic trace behind.

It's hard to say how big in size the migratory wave was, but it's also hard to say how many people did they end up conquering per say. We know that a lot of toponyms in Hungarian were adopted from Slavic and German. So the places were named, but we have no reference to any major population centers of local governments. In the outer edges of the Carpathian basin there is some reference to castles and rulers (in places like modern Czech Republic or Transylvania) but most of the region seems to have been a sparsely populated borderland on the edge of various 9th century polities.

Also it wasn't necessarily that Hungarians imposed their rule over the locals but more like absorbing them and in turn being absorbed by them, adopting their customs, place names, religions etc. I mean they literally went from Asian nomadic raiders to feudal knight kingdom in a span of a century or less. Nationality in medieval Europe worked in strange ways, and many important historical figures especially in central Europe are now equally claimed by 2 or more nations as "their own". Czechs who are Hungarian national heroes or kings, elected Hungarian kings and warlords descended from Romanian nobility, Hungarian ruler of Poland and the Holy Roman Empire etc.

[Macaquerie]

You will quickly discover, if you haven't already, that most people in GenOT are strong believers in open borders who thinks anyone wanting to preserve European culture must be an extremist. It can be a little intimidating at first but once you realise they are all just ideologically left and suffering from white guilt you will begin to laugh at them.

Why do alt right types always throw out "white guilt" as if it's some kind of ridiculous concept? I mean, we're talking about countries that sided with the Nazis during WW2, and that wasn't something that happened a long time ago either. There are definitely people alive right now in Hungary, Romania, Norway, or wherever else that fervently supported the Nazis and are utterly unrepentant about it, their only regret being that they lost. Is that not something that you find troubling?

[Machismo]

You will quickly discover, if you haven't already, that most people in GenOT are strong believers in open borders who thinks anyone wanting to preserve European culture must be an extremist. It can be a little intimidating at first but once you realise they are all just ideologically left and suffering from white guilt you will begin to laugh at them.

There are like three open border people on these threads, you are being disingenuous. The issue with people who want to "preserve their culture" is how they want to go about doing it. More often than not, that means they are white nationalists. If you want to preserve your culture, then continue to participate in it. If you want to force others to participate in it, then you are an authoritarian who hates freedom. White nationalists are terrible people, every single one of them.

[Deleted]

Well, how 'bout EU go fuck itself and let the european countries keep their traditions? Fuck outsiders if we're gonna be forced to remove our culture because ''it doesnt fit together with others!''

Mate, please. Do you understand nothing beyond the clickbait propaganda title? Recently, Orban is taking a more nationalistic and hardline approach because he wants to consolidate his supporters before gearing up for the new election, to which the EU responds with soft political pressures like this as a signal to him. He knows the game, they know the game, he's pretty decent at playing it, making two steps forward then conceding one step back.

But noooo, "OMG THEY'RE KILLING WHITE MEN TO REPLACE THEM WITH SANDNIGGERS" is the amount of political understanding you got from this. Good job m8, gotta eat up that St. Petersburg - spun propaganda. With a side of kid meat pizza, though maybe that is a flavour more suited for the american breitbartian sheep, I guess.

[Torto]

Why do alt right types always throw out "white guilt" as if it's some kind of ridiculous concept? I mean, we're talking about countries that sided with the Nazis during WW2, and that wasn't something that happened a long time ago either. There are definitely people alive right now in Hungary, Romania, Norway, or wherever else that fervently supported the Nazis and are utterly unrepentant about it, their only regret being that they lost. Is that not something that you find troubling?

Not a long time ago? It was fucking 80 years ago. You would struggle to find anyone still alive who actively supported the Nazis. I don't think you will find one person on these forums who was even born when all the Nazi atrocities happened but you still expect everyone to feel guilty about it and endlessly apologise for it. Talk about persecuting people for the sins of the father. I mean, how warped or insecure are you if you are terrified about Hungry staying predominately white? Does that automatically equate a return to Nazism? Does it upset you that African nations are predominately black? Are you pissed Japan is predominately Asian?

[Deleted]

I understand that these are claims made by the city's mayor. Not citing any names, and without a way to corroborate them.
I suppose candidates should not be rejected for "being too white or too Christian", but this looks like the mayor is simply raising this as a controversy to garner local support.
A reasonable outcome would be to request some official document detailing the cause for rejection.

[Rennadrel]

So your source is in a language that you don't speak? How the fuck do you know what it says then?

Also, that is literally the shadiest-looking link I've ever seen posted on here. Even worse than the Babaji's Black Magic Love Potion spam links.

Google Translate is your friend then. I read it, and it's pretty cut and dry what the allegations are, and that it's the EU doesn't like the white, predominantly Christian, Orthodox and Jewish religions of Hungary.

[Freighter]

Seems like pretty stupid thing to say.

[Travis B]

Google Translate is your friend then. I read it, and it's pretty cut and dry what the allegations are, and that it's the EU doesn't like the white, predominantly Christian, Orthodox and Jewish religions of Hungary.

Google Translate is good for translating simple words and phrases. It's absolute shit for translating a document full of nuance.

[Babadoo]

Being white is a crime in 2018, deal with it. Black powah!

[Macaquerie]

Not a long time ago? It was fucking 80 years ago. You would struggle to find anyone still alive who actively supported the Nazis. I don't think you will find one person on these forums who was even born when all the Nazi atrocities happened but you still expect everyone to feel guilty about it and endlessly apologise for it. Talk about persecuting people for the sins of the father. I mean, how warped or insecure are you if you are terrified about Hungry staying predominately white? Does that automatically equate a return to Nazism? Does it upset you that African nations are predominately black? Are you pissed Japan is predominately Asian?

The WWII generation hasn't completely died off yet, though actually I would think that it's not a coincidence that the resurgence of far right ideologies over the last few decades has happened at the same time that most people lost grandparents who actually had direct experience of living under fascism and would have no shortage of horror stories to tell. My first comment was a bit unfair, I'm sure that most Hungarians during the war were just swept up by events out of their control and the unrepentant Nazi supporters were in the minority. But now that those people have mostly died off, that has sort of depersonalized that time period, and the new generation growing up just sees those events as something that happened in the distant past which is absolutely not true. So it's easy for kids these days to start thinking that, hey, maybe the Nazis weren't so bad, because they don't have grandpa around to tell them exactly how bad the Nazis really were.

[Deleted]

But being Christian is not European ...

Christians, Muslims and Jews have the same God ... and it's not European.