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    NRA Leader Warns Conservatives Of 'Socialist Wave' In Wake Of Shooting

    https://www.npr.org/2018/02/22/58791...ntent=20180222

    Just over a week after 17 people were killed at Parkland, Fla., high school, National Rifle Association executive vice president and CEO Wayne LaPierre gave a fiery, defiant speech at the annual Conservative Political Action Conference, or CPAC, on Thursday at the National Harbor in Maryland. LaPierre defended Second Amendment rights and warned of a "socialist agenda" intended to strip firearms away from law-abiding citizens.

    "As usual, the opportunists wasted not one second to exploit tragedy for political gain," LaPierre said, adding that 20th-century community organizer "Saul Alinsky would have been proud of the breakneck speed for gun control laws and the breathless national media eager to smear the NRA."

    LaPierre, who was not listed on CPAC's official schedule, accused Democrats of making gun control a political issue in order to achieve their ultimate goal to "eradicate all individual freedoms."

    "What they want are more restrictions on the law-abiding — think about that," LaPierre said. "Their solution is to make you, all of you, less free. They want to sweep right under the carpet the failure of school security, the failure of the family, the failure of America's school systems and even the unbelievable failure of the FBI."

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    Right before LaPierre took the stage, NRA national spokeswoman Dana Loesch also spoke, striking a far angrier tone than she had in a CNN town hall Wednesday evening and even admitting the accusations she was about to make would be controversial.

    "Many in legacy media love mass shootings. You guys love it. I'm not saying that you love the tragedy, but I am saying that you love the ratings. Crying white mothers are ratings gold to you and many of the legacy media in the back," she charged, pointing to journalists at the back of the ballroom.

    And as LaPierre did, Loesch — who also wasn't officially on the pre-released CPAC agenda — blamed failures in law enforcement for the latest tragedy at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Fla.

    "We will not be gaslighted into thinking that we are responsible for a tragedy that we had nothing to do with. It is not our job to follow up on red flags. It is not our job to make sure that states are reporting to the background system," Loesch said.

    LaPierre said that in the past, he had worked with Democrats who wanted to work to reduce gun violence, but that leaders now only cared about exploiting tragedy for political gain, calling them a "tidal wave of new European socialists" in charge of the party and name-checking Sen. Kamala Harris, D-Calif.; Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass.; New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio; New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo; Sen. Cory Booker, D-N.J.; Sen. Christopher Murphy, D-Conn.; and Rep. Keith Ellison, D-Minn., to boos in the crowd.

    "The elites care not one whit about America's school system and schoolchildren," LaPierre added.

    "I hear a lot of quiet in this room, and I sense your anxiety," LaPierre said, turning to the political consequences of the debate. "And you should be anxious, and you should be frightened. If they seize power, if these so-called 'European socialists' take over the House and the Senate, and God forbid they get the White House again, our Americans freedoms could be lost and our country will be changed forever."

    LaPierre also accused Democrats like Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., of not working with conservatives and activists enough to address mental health as a concern and to put such checks into the database system to prevent dangerous people from getting access to guns.

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    LaPierre also echoed a longtime call of the NRA — which President Trump also endorsed during a White House listening session with families of victims and survivors of gun violence on Wednesday — to more heavily arm school personnel and to provide better security and roll back gun-free school zones.

    "We must immediately harden our schools. Every day, young children are being dropped off at schools that are virtually wide open, soft targets for anyone bent on mass murder," LaPierre argued. "It should not be easier for a madman to shoot up a school than a bank or a jewelry story or some Hollywood gala. Schools must be the most hardened target in this country, and evil must be confronted immediately with all necessary force to protect our kids."

    LaPierre ended his speech, to a standing ovation, by reprising comments he made just over five years ago after the mass-shooting tragedy at Sandy Hook Elementary in Newtown, Conn.: "To stop a bad guy with a gun, it takes a good guy with a gun."

    When Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, took the stage later Thursday afternoon, he was dismissed calls for new gun control measures in the wake of the Parkland shooting. Before the CPAC crowd, Cruz derided CNN's town hall on Wednesday night with some of the survivors as an "infomercial" and said that the predictable calls for new restrictions were "tiresome."

    "Every time you see a horrific crime, people in the media and Democratic politicians always try to leap on it to advance their agenda," which is to try to "strip the Second Amendment rights from law-abiding citizens," Cruz said.

    Cruz also used one of his favorite cartoons, The Simpsons, to make an analogy, painting Republicans as the party of the everyman when it comes to guns while Democrats take a more elite approach.

    "I think the Democrats are the party of Lisa Simpson, and Republicans are happily the party of Homer and Bart and Maggie and Marge," the Texas senator said.

    Ahead of the NRA leader's speech, Trump tweeted his support for LaPierre and others in the organization, calling them "Great People and Great American Patriots" who will "do the right thing."

    What many people don’t understand, or don’t want to understand, is that Wayne, Chris and the folks who work so hard at the @NRA are Great People and Great American Patriots. They love our Country and will do the right thing. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!

    "The NRA is ready to do things. People like to blame them," Trump later said during a meeting at the White House with state and local officials about school safety.

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    Vice President Pence also addressed the Parkland shooting at the outset of his remarks to the CPAC crowd. He pointed out that Trump had already taken action to regulate bump stocks this week and in meetings with governors next week, the White House "will make the safety of America's schools and America's students our top national priority."

    "In America, we mourn with those who mourn and grieve with those who grieve," Pence said.

    When Secretary of Education Betsy DeVos took the stage, she also asked for a moment of silence for the Parkland victims as their photos were shown on screens in the ballroom.

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    So this means Obama is going to come for my guns for sure this time, promise?
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    Apparently wanting people to not die from excessive gun violence in the US is socialism?

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    Yea the NRA are the enemy, we know.

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    On more delightful news, the First National Bank of Omaha has ended their business relationship with the NRA.

    http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefi...ationship-with

    Apparently this seemingly effects a number of things, up to and including ending their NRA-Visa card line of credit.

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    "Don't listen to those people saying there should be 'rules' and 'regulations' that make it harder for crazy white supremacists to murder seventeen people! Those people are socialists! Instead, let's talk about the plan Trump and I discussed, having armed teachers in 20% of the classrooms."
    "Whoa, where are you going to find that many teachers who own guns?"
    "The government will distribute guns."
    "But why would they want to be armed? That sounds like extra risk."
    "The government will pay them for the extra risk."
    "Do you have that many teachers who even know how to use guns? I mean, Troops to Teachers isn't exactly doing that great."
    "The government will get them special training."
    "...to defend us from the socialists?"
    "Yes! I see no irony in this whatsoever."

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    My response to him: I wish.

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    If only

    /10wishes

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    When did the NRA get access to my dream diary?
    Quote Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    ...what? You wish for what, specifically?
    I was referring to Lapierre when I said "him". The "i wish" refers to his ridiculous warnings of a socialist wave. I wish their really was. F unrestricted capitalism.

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    The disingenuous rhetoric some of these people/organizations push.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by callipygoustp View Post
    The disingenuous rhetoric some of these people/organizations push.....
    You think an organization dedicated to protecting the rights of mass murderers is going to behave with integrity?

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    Quote Originally Posted by callipygoustp View Post
    The disingenuous rhetoric some of these people/organizations push.....
    Remember that time the NRA TV guy told North Korea to nuke Sacramento? Yeah, I'm not sure what else you expected from the NRA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wyrt View Post
    Remember that time the NRA TV guy told North Korea to nuke Sacramento? Yeah, I'm not sure what else you expected from the NRA.
    Exactly. Its pure insanity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xeones View Post
    You think an organization dedicated to protecting the rights of mass murderers is going to behave with integrity?
    I want the rights of mass murderers protected. I also want to see those same mass murderers punished appropriately.

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    I used to believe PETA was the nuttiest relevant organization to exist. NRA is starting to beat them.
    The wise wolf who's pride is her wisdom isn't so sharp as drunk.

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    Are they afraid that Trump and the GOP are going to take their guns?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machismo View Post
    Are they afraid that Trump and the GOP are going to take their guns?
    No, that's why gun sales have cratered and in part why Remington is getting ready to declare bankruptcy.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...-in-bankruptcy

    NRA and the gun industry had better hope that Democrats take control back soon, because the industries always hits a slump when Republicans are in control and they can't whip gun owners into a frenzy by convincing them of how scary Democrats are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    No, that's why gun sales have cratered and in part why Remington is getting ready to declare bankruptcy.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...-in-bankruptcy

    NRA and the gun industry had better hope that Democrats take control back soon, because the industries always hits a slump when Republicans are in control and they can't whip gun owners into a frenzy by convincing them of how scary Democrats are.
    The most ironic part of all of this, is that Trump may very well restrict gun rights more than Obama ever did. Gun rights actually expanded under Obama.

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    Not this soon, but I wouldn't be surprised if there's a surge of socialism after baby boomers are gone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blur4stuff View Post
    Not this soon, but I wouldn't be surprised if there's a surge of socialism after baby boomers are gone.
    http://www.sacbee.com/news/nation-wo...182765121.html

    There's some polling to that effect, already.

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