1. #20061
    Quote Originally Posted by MyWholeLifeIsThunder View Post
    For Void Elves, not quite sure; should they get human hairstyles since they are mostly seen in Stormwind outside Telogrus? or should they have NE hairstyle to further contrast between VE and NB "switching" factions?
    I'd like Human hairstyles more. They can work well for a High Elf theme or a Void Elf theme imo and they make more sense to me since the High Elves and Void Elves are mostly found in Stormwind.

    Here's the styles and colors I'd like to see eventually shared with Void Elves:


  2. #20062
    Quote Originally Posted by Kyriani View Post
    I have to agree. As much as it would have been better to have High Elves as their own race, having them via Void Elves isn't the worst outcome for those seeking High Elves, and it also makes the likelihood of a High Elf allied race incredibly remote. I just hope that some lore additions are added to the game that highlights more about the High Elf Wayfarers and Silvermoon Scholars coming to Telogrus. I'd also really like to know even just a few details as to how these new recruits are gaining their powers.
    Indeed. But yeah, whatever path they go forward lorewise, all we have seem implementation wise really just makes seem High Elves as their own AR very, very unlikely.




    I would like more hair options for sure. We can only hope that when allied races get a more comprehensive pass, that more will be added. It would be awesome though if they added a toggle for the tentacles though!

    Void Elf Hairstyles without the tentacles:


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    *squint* Did I made these? Lol I legit can't remember bhahahaha

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyriani View Post
    I'd like Human hairstyles more. They can work well for a High Elf theme or a Void Elf theme imo and they make more sense to me since the High Elves and Void Elves are mostly found in Stormwind.

    Here's the styles and colors I'd like to see eventually shared with Void Elves:

    Indeed. Actually I was going to attempt porting some hairstyles now-ish. Let's see if I remember how bones work ay

  3. #20063
    Quote Originally Posted by MyWholeLifeIsThunder View Post
    *squint* Did I made these? Lol I legit can't remember bhahahaha
    If you're Talendrion then I believe you did! I saw them on the wow forums and made sure to save them!
    Indeed. Actually I was going to attempt porting some hairstyles now-ish. Let's see if I remember how bones work ay
    Please show us your ports for male and female if you make them!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeicideUH View Post
    Hell yeah.

    almost



    man, Jennalla is such a cute ginger; she got a unique model for someone without even any role and just appeared in literally just one chapter, meanwhile the other Fel Orc Chieftains are still Grom
    The Alliance gets the Horde's most popular race. The Horde should get the Alliance's most popular race in return. Alteraci Humans for the Horde!

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  5. #20065
    Quote Originally Posted by Geisl View Post

    And I am so very glad Blizzard did not share your viewpoint of what is important faction distinction and blurring the lines by allowing playable High Elves to both sides.

    Super super glad about it!
    Blizzard do share my viewpoint to some degree, else void elves would have never been a thing and high elves would have been the playable AR. Alas, high elves are not a separate playable race so clearly blizzard still place some importance to faction distinction.. they've obviously relaxed their rules a bit but are still standing by them to some degree.

    I'm super glad that blood elves continue to remain the main high elven group in WoW, and that I can play a high elven paladin. Super super glad about it! (ps. I'm only reciprocating your smart ass tone)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aldo Hawk View Post
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    I'd much rather dark ranger / san'layn be available as customization options, rather than waste another AR slot with an elf race. These options would fit with either blood elves or undead (I would be perfectly okay with either).

    The rest of what you wrote is not worth my time replying, as you're an angry person and tend to resort to inflammatory remarks when someone does not agree with you.
    Blood elves are our high elves - Chris Metzen

  6. #20066
    Quote Originally Posted by Kyriani View Post
    If you're Talendrion then I believe you did! I saw them on the wow forums and made sure to save them!


    Please show us your ports for male and female if you make them!
    Hahha indeed it's me XD!

    Having some fun with males first; one issue tho, human hairstyles use that "scalp" texture a lot, so gotta try fix that somehow.



    Blond hair for VE's, but only on this hairstyle.

  7. #20067
    Quote Originally Posted by Strippling View Post
    It is. Void elves were given natural skin colors despite them originally being a race so tainted by the void that their entire body turned blue. Giving blood elves some undead type skin tones is the equivalent. Slap some red eyes on and there ya go. Alternatively, I'd be fine if they just allowed undead to have a forsaken elf option.




    I never denied high elves existed. I merely pointed out from the very start that blood elves are our high elves and were already playable. To me, faction distinction is important so I merely put my voice in to express that playable high elves would blur the lines... given that blood elves (who are high elves) were already available on the opposite faction. Dark rangers on the other hand do not detract from the uniqueness of any alliance race, they are exclusively Horde and share no thematic with any alliance race. Apples to oranges.




    It sounds an awful lot like you're against undead elves being playable. You also love to express that "you're a blood elf player", yet you spend more time and energy talking about high elves on the alliance than you do blood elves. Me thinks there is an illusion you're hiding, alliance spy. You seem to have no issue with void elves being diluted by "high elf" aesthetics, but have issue with blood elves being diluted by "dark ranger" aesthetics. Double standards.



    Void elves are receiving ALL of the blood elf skin options, while having their own VOID skin options. Skin options wise, they now have more options than their parent race. IF they were to receive the blood elf hair options too, on top of their void hair options (hair styles and color), then there would be a further unbalance and an unfair one. Thus, one option to counter balance this would be to offer blood elves some dark ranger customizations. In saying this, I hope they keep void elves with darker hair tones to allow some level of distinction between them and blood elves (albeit minor). Why? Because racial distinction is important whether you believe so or not. It makes your race choices matter, it makes faction choices matter.



    Dark ranger is exclusively a Horde theme. The high elven race and theme on the other hand was predominantly a Horde feature, with the alliance having a minor inclusion of the race and theme within them. Blood elves are and were the main high elven group in WoW, with alliance aligned high elves being a minor group and feature in comparison. On the other hand, dark rangers are Horde exclusive. Apples to oranges.
    I agree that dark rangers are indeed Horde thing, at least for now. Don't forget there are night elf dark rangers too. So far, it seems they'll stick with the Horde, but they may end up rejoining their people in the future... But at least they are not thalassians.

    I wouldn't mind sharing some VE hairstyles (without tentacles) with BE to complement that San'layn/Dark Ranger fantasy. As you said, it's fair for blood elves to get something in return too. Right now, they got more facial hair options, but that's it.

  8. #20068
    Quote Originally Posted by Kyriani View Post
    Please show us your ports for male and female if you make them!


    Okay, figured it enough to basically make a mannequin head where I can drop the hairstyles!

  9. #20069
    I think evolving the Alliance High Elves down a new path with Void Elves is perfectly acceptable, as it gives them many new possibilities. Now I just want the devs to capitalize on them and advance their story. I don't mean making void portals for the war effort, but rather continuing the story thread set up in 7.3 on Argus with the void Ethereals and Alleria. Plus, AR or not they are likely going to be the new favorite, so them taking the story spotlight will be inevitable at some point.

    That being said, after the new skin tones I still think they should get a few more options. I don't necessarily think they need to have everything Blood Elves have, but with the Alliance High Elves intermingling with humans it would be weird if Void Elves couldn't adjust their ear size to be more half-elven. Alliance blue underwear and nail polish would be a good additional change to the new skin tones too. Also, I'd like the Entropic Embrace to look like Alleria's photo-negative version, not this shadow priest looking one we have now. Finally, I want true black hair, true white hair, and maybe a red that is a little less purple than the purplish-red they have already. I won't say no to blonde or brown shades but also won't object to their absence.

  10. #20070
    Quote Originally Posted by MyWholeLifeIsThunder View Post


    Okay, figured it enough to basically make a mannequin head where I can drop the hairstyles!

    This blonde is really beautiful and this hairstyle is not bad, I love it.

    I find that the hair colors and hairstyles of KTs, especially those of women, would be perfect as a high elf option for void elves.

  11. #20071
    Quote Originally Posted by Frenchvince View Post
    This blonde is really beautiful and this hairstyle is not bad, I love it.

    I find that the hair colors and hairstyles of KTs, especially those of women, would be perfect as a high elf option for void elves.
    Right? I fully agree. IMO it works -giving VE and NB hairstyles/colors from their faction helps differentiate them culturally, which is pretty fitting since the difference between HE and BE is cultural/political/ideological.

    I'm actually using KT colors for this! Using human since there are more options, but I do agree that KT hairstyles work better because they are made with no scalp texture. In any case, these is how VE's look with Kul Tiran hair colors done earlier.


  12. #20072
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldielocks View Post
    Don't see that to be the case. The devs abandoned lore restrictions on player customization. That's as far as it goes.
    What?

    Please be on point, High elves have been added, he was wrong, don't get lost.

    Quote Originally Posted by Strippling View Post
    Blizzard do share my viewpoint to some degree, else void elves would have never been a thing and high elves would have been the playable AR. Alas, high elves are not a separate playable race so clearly blizzard still place some importance to faction distinction.. they've obviously relaxed their rules a bit but are still standing by them to some degree.

    I'm super glad that blood elves continue to remain the main high elven group in WoW, and that I can play a high elven paladin. Super super glad about it! (ps. I'm only reciprocating your smart ass tone)
    Isn't this being an angry person, Strippling?

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    I'd much rather dark ranger / san'layn be available as customization options, rather than waste another AR slot with an elf race.
    That's your wrong opinion.

    The rest of what you wrote is not worth my time replying, as you're an angry person and tend to resort to inflammatory remarks when someone does not agree with you.
    Please don't try to hit and run with weak statements when you don't have any points, just escape as fast as you can without looking back!

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  13. #20073
    Quote Originally Posted by MyWholeLifeIsThunder View Post
    Right? I fully agree. IMO it works -giving VE and NB hairstyles/colors from their faction helps differentiate them culturally, which is pretty fitting since the difference between HE and BE is cultural/political/ideological.

    I'm actually using KT colors for this! Using human since there are more options, but I do agree that KT hairstyles work better because they are made with no scalp texture. In any case, these is how VE's look with Kul Tiran hair colors done earlier.
    Whoa, I kinda like this.

    They could add these colors and then a toggle on/off for tentacles in the hair and that would make people pretty happy I think.

  14. #20074
    Quote Originally Posted by Yarathir View Post
    No. Alleria is a High Elf with void powers.
    Any Thallassian, who is constantly infused with void powers is a void elf.

  15. #20075
    Quote Originally Posted by Combatbulter View Post
    Any Thallassian, who is constantly infused with void powers is a void elf.
    She is also called void elf in Shadow Rising, so all discussions on that matter can end now.

  16. #20076
    Quote Originally Posted by MyWholeLifeIsThunder View Post


    Okay, figured it enough to basically make a mannequin head where I can drop the hairstyles!
    OMG! I didn't know how much I needed this until now! I hope Blizzard sees this and realizes how awesome it would be!

  17. #20077
    Quote Originally Posted by Kyriani View Post
    I'd like Human hairstyles more. They can work well for a High Elf theme or a Void Elf theme imo and they make more sense to me since the High Elves and Void Elves are mostly found in Stormwind.

    Here's the styles and colors I'd like to see eventually shared with Void Elves:

    That is actually pretty reasonable. I think it could silence those blood elf fan that feel void elves are robbing them of something unique then. I especially love male hairstyles, female void elves already have few hairstyles decent enough for high elf fantasy.

    Right now, making high elf is not that hard, even without aditional hair colors. I did my try with "silver covenant scout". I believe I could do better, but I like it so far.

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  18. #20078
    Quote Originally Posted by Combatbulter View Post
    Any Thallassian, who is constantly infused with void powers is a void elf.
    A High/Blood Elf Shadow Priest is a Void Elf?

  19. #20079
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ardenaso View Post
    I really love it when I see Umbrithas Voidreaver


    We just need a dirty blonde hair colour and a couple of non-voidy hairstyles and I'm set!

  20. #20080
    Quote Originally Posted by Yarathir View Post
    A High/Blood Elf Shadow Priest is a Void Elf?
    Void elves do not tap into void energy, it is a part of them, hence the constant whispers. Shadow priest tap briefly into it, Alleria and those following her path go much further.

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