Official High Elf Discussion Megathread

[Varodoc]

The more I wait for void elf natural hair colors and styles the more nervous I get I hope Blizzard reads the feedback, as mostly everyone is asking for natural void elf options other than skin and eyes.

There will 100% be more natural customization options for void elves. Blizzard are not dumb, they know void elves right now need more options to look good aesthetically with pink skin tones. More customization options will be revealed as the alpha continues, including blonde hair.

[Thalassian Bob]

Sarah Pine wrote in the shadow of the sun and I think it is one of the best Blood Elves stories out there, the High Elves in that story seemed foolish rather than morally superior and in the end they are now dead for being foolish!

I certainly agree that ITSOTS is a great and well written story! I just don't like how she is pretty much single-handedly responsible for starting this stupid idea that one of the main reasons for the blood/high elf schism is that the high elves were horrified by the blood elves draining mana from living creatures when presumably almost all of them eat meat. I think it's such a weak position to build the tension from.

[Ardenaso]

Sarah Pine wrote in the shadow of the sun and I think it is one of the best Blood Elves stories out there, the High Elves in that story seemed foolish rather than morally superior and in the end they are now dead for being foolish!

to be fair only the no-name High Elves are the ones who succumbed to the Wretched curse. Kirkian, Renthar, Adon, and Kriss are all still alive and there's no explicit implication that Aurora also became Wretched

[DeicideUH]

New Build is coming!

From early datamined strings (this is my interpretation, may be wrong):
- Orcs and mag'har orc males got sideburns selection
- Mag'har orcs got eye color selection.
- Orc tusk selection is in. Mag'har are getting it too.
- Orc piercings split into earring and other categories.
- It seems human males got sideburns, beards and mustaches split
- Human males got eyebrow selection
- Blood elf female armbands are in.
- Void elf females got jewelry color options.
- Er... Blood Elf Female - Tattoo Color?!? Reminder that this may not be in yet, as it's a single string, not any options listed. But it may indicate something...

[Yavi Dawnsong]

- Er... Blood Elf Female - Tattoo Color?!? Reminder that this may not be in yet, as it's a single string, not any options listed. But it may indicate something...

I believe this is for the DH tattoos, judging by the tattoo names that were also mined.

[DeicideUH]

I believe this is for the DH tattoos, judging by the tattoo names that were also mined.

Yeah, I may have been too hasty.

[Yavi Dawnsong]

Yeah, I may have been too hasty.

It's okay, my immediate reaction was like "FARSTRIDER TATTOOS- oh wait...."

[Rhlor]

to be fair only the no-name High Elves are the ones who succumbed to the Wretched curse. Kirkian, Renthar, Adon, and Kriss are all still alive and there's no explicit implication that Aurora also became Wretched

adon was never part of them

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Void Elf Female - Jewelry Color

[Ardenaso]

just a thought - I've seen people (me included tbh) ask for Ennas and Lyria to eventually "come to their senses back" and ditch the brainwashing officers in Silvermoon and rejoin the Alliance in either the form of Silver Covenant or Void Elves. They could be a nice trade for Auric

[Varodoc]

Why should that be a trade in the first place? All of them should join the Alliance. Auric should because he could finally be reunited with his idol, Ennas and Lyria should because they would be rightfully pissed off at Theron for brainwashing them.

[Frenchvince]

New Build is coming!

- Void elf females got jewelry color options.

I hope they will get new Quel'dorei jewelry in gold/silver with blue or purple crystals.

[DeicideUH]

I hope they will get new Quel'dorei jewelry in gold/silver with blue or purple crystals.

For now it's just the same as live, but the work is done to allow color selection.
No sign of new jewelry, thought.

[MyWholeLifeIsThunder]

I hope they will get new Quel'dorei jewelry in gold/silver with blue or purple crystals.

So far it seems it doesn't seem to be in yet texture wise -the old jewelry was on the skin, now it's a separate file- it might mean that VE's will continue to use BE skin tones rather than have their own versions of it -meaning literally sharing the texture file-

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So for anyone on beta now, does the VE jewelry load correctly on the new skin tones now?

[Kyriani]

So far it seems it doesn't seem to be in yet texture wise -the old jewelry was on the skin, now it's a separate file- it might mean that VE's will continue to use BE skin tones rather than have their own versions of it -meaning literally sharing the texture file-

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So for anyone on beta now, does the VE jewelry load correctly on the new skin tones now?

I don't have beta but it seems to be loading properly on the dressing room now.

[DeicideUH]

So for anyone on beta now, does the VE jewelry load correctly on the new skin tones now?

Yes, it's working correctly now.

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Changes I noticed for now:

- Void elf jewelry was fixed for the new skins
- Void elf underwear wasn't fixed yet.
- The new human beards are AWESOME!
- Orc options were fixed. Sideburns split from beards mean you can have a total of 6 braids at once, lol.
- Orc scars were split into scars and grime. Grime is a kind of makeup for orcs, allowing you to make your chin and eyes darker.
- Female blood elf armbands are now working properly.
- Mag'har orcs got eye colors, sideburns split from facial hair and inherited tusks, piercings and earrings from baseline orcs.
- Dark Iron Dwarves are disabled. They are under work!
- Still no Nightborne news.
- Zandalari got eye color options: blue, green, light blue, silver, blind and blue/blind combinations.

[MyWholeLifeIsThunder]

I don't have beta but it seems to be loading properly on the dressing room now.

Sweet! Hopefully we will be seeing new colors as per the strings (i'd love a silver with blue jewels color heh! who wouldn't tho XD)

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Yes, it's working correctly now.

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Changes I noticed for now:

- Void elf jewelry was fixed for the new skins
- Void elf underwear wasn't fixed yet.
- The new human beards are AWESOME!
- Orc options were fixed. Sideburns split from beards mean you can have a total of 6 braids at once, lol.
- Orc scars were split into scars and grime. Grime is a kind of makeup for orcs, allowing you to make your chin and eyes darker.
- Female blood elf armbands are now working properly.
- Mag'har orcs got eye colors, sideburns split from facial hair and inherited tusks, piercings and earrings from baseline orcs.
- Dark Iron Dwarves are disabled. They are under work!
- Still no Nightborne news.
- Zandalari got eye color options: blue, green, light blue, silver, blind and blue/blind combinations.

Nice! So for VE I think they are just gonna use the BE skin tone ID without duplicating and editing the textures. One weird thing about the Underwear is that each skin tone has its own underwear texture, despite being the same for each skin tone; maybe they will re-path that so each skin tone shares the same unique underwear file (or who knows, maybe we will be able to choose underwear color lol)

[Traycor]

I certainly agree that ITSOTS is a great and well written story! I just don't like how she is pretty much single-handedly responsible for starting this stupid idea that one of the main reasons for the blood/high elf schism is that the high elves were horrified by the blood elves draining mana from living creatures when presumably almost all of them eat meat. I think it's such a weak position to build the tension from.

That idea had been around for years before that, presented primarily in the Warcraft RPG (which was canon at the time). It certainly wasn't something she made up.

[MyWholeLifeIsThunder]

I certainly agree that ITSOTS is a great and well written story! I just don't like how she is pretty much single-handedly responsible for starting this stupid idea that one of the main reasons for the blood/high elf schism is that the high elves were horrified by the blood elves draining mana from living creatures when presumably almost all of them eat meat. I think it's such a weak position to build the tension from.

Can't agree more, and I can't even blame the ItSotS for it, because it really just tells us the Quel'lithien hold those beliefs, beliefs we haven't seen reflected on any other High Elven group.

The whole ethics of mana siphoning as a core of HE/BE schism is just so flimsy and unnecessary when we already have sociopolitical reasons why both groups emerged on the first place; honestly for me it always came across the need of some HE fans to feel like the morally superior group of elf. Sadly, there are still a lot of those people on both HE and BE sides and I doubt they will ever go away.

[Traycor]

Can't agree more, and I can't even blame the ItSotS for it, because it really just tells us the Quel'lithien hold those beliefs, beliefs we haven't seen reflected on any other High Elven group.

The whole ethics of mana siphoning as a core of HE/BE schism is just so flimsy and unnecessary when we already have sociopolitical reasons why both groups emerged on the first place; honestly for me it always came across the need of some HE fans to feel like the morally superior group of elf. Sadly, there are still a lot of those people on both HE and BE sides and I doubt they will ever go away.

It made a lot of sense when this idea was first introduced (five or more years before that short story), but the blood elves have been heavily retconned since. At the time, blood elves were psycho vampire-mana elves that both Horde and Alliance would kill on sight. Blood elves were reviled and feared by all.

Later, when Blizzard decided to make blood elves a player race (instead of high elves) many of these ideas were reflected in the mana tap racial ability, blood elf paladins torturing Naru for their power, and all the wretched running around. Blizzard didn't just retcon the blood elves all at once. It was inched over through several years, and by the time ItSotS was written, these ideas had only half been removed from cannon.

[Alixie]

My Velf is going to look so cute. The purple eyes are perfect.