Official High Elf Discussion Megathread

[Varx]

Lol we don't need to talk. You've made it quite obvious (since a few posts back) you have no real issue and aren't planning to actually follow-up with any Blizzard officials on what they've said and instead continue your passive aggressive posting.

Blizzard support can help your "issue", not random posters on MMO-C.

I'm loving all the salt I've seen from High Elf haters, my food needed a bit more seasoning.

Hey now fellow hELfeR, I ain't salty or being passive aggressive. I just don't want our movement to lose sight of what we want! We want to play High Elves! A void elf with light skin and blue eyes is still a void elf! This is just Blizzard's way to shut us up with sugar covered shit. We want our warcraft 2 pure helves! That's what we've been preaching against evil doers like that obe guy *shudders*. I mean I dont feel very pure if my high elf suddenly has grape juice coming out of his skin for a few seconds every minute. Also those tentacle coming out of my scalp seem fishy too.

Fair skin velf using velf racial abilities = helf ???????????????

Warrior in paladin imitation xmog = actual paladin???????????

That's essentially what you're telling me. Again don't lose sight of what we fought for!

[Frenchvince]

Holy coolness, Batman! I want that mount but I'm sure it's hard as hell to grind so I'll settle for my Quel'dorei steed.

There are plenty of guides and add-ons to help you get this mount.

[FlubberPuddy]

There are plenty of guides and add-ons to help you get this mount.

Sameee, was just about to say this. Also awesome character! Love the blue hair contrasted against that skin tone.

[Varx]

Don't forget to use your flying unicorn !

I can finally be like Alleria. <3
I just need some new blonde hair.

I'm happy for you Alleria fans. I hope us Vereesa Fans will have our day soon too!

[FossilFree]

I'm happy for you Alleria fans. I hope us Vereesa Fans will have our day soon too!

Temper tantrums aren't a good look you know.

[Varx]

Temper tantrums aren't a good look you know.

What tantrum? I've been nothing but calm. I'm just want hELfErs to not lose sight of what was fought for. It baffles me how fair skin and blue eyes have satisfied the masses when it was clear that the only thing that would satisfy us is a legit AR. Now we have people claiming they are playing a helf when actually a velf. I'm very concerned for their mental well being. Double thinking is not a healthy thing to do.

[Alanar]

Im confused man I though we were fighting for actual high elves for years. Everyone was upset with velfs and their ass pull story. Now we're happy just cuz of the semblence of being a helf through fair skin and blue eyes. Hmmmm seems very contradictory to what ive read here.

Cuz right now, no matter how you spin it, we're playing with velvs and if aesthetics is the thing that determines what a helf is then helves are now horde since they have blond hair and aren't forced to turn purple.

Then you have missed most of the drama that went on here for ages.

The only option to settle the hate was to give both factions, blue eyes.

High elves are dead as an AR option, but now you can rp as one, but not actually be one! get it?

The discussion has been dead the moment the costumization options were shown. The only people left here are just latecomers, huge fans who still want the tag or just people who used to be a high elf fan, but went over to the void elves because they knew it was over. :wink Or just fanart and wishfull thinking.

But realy.. it's over.

[MyWholeLifeIsThunder]

and one of the only two high elf ones is at the Horde, and the other a mixed race half-elf; so yeah I'm kinda agreeing now

I mean as fact checking goes, there are 2 High Elven paladins on the Silver Covenant (Isimode and Rulen Lightsreap)

The point isn't that HE's can't be paladins, but just as there are NE paladins, it doesn't mean they are a playable option. It's pretty evident that because some members of a race are a class, it doesn't mean they WILL be a playable class choice.

[Yarathir]

All Void Elves really need is blonde hair and maybe a few more non-tentacly hairstyles to be as High Elf as they can be, and those will probably happen later on.

In the meantime, you can make a High Elf with the current options just fine.

[Varx]

Then you have missed most of the drama that went on here for ages.

The only option to settle the hate was to give both factions, blue eyes.

High elves are dead as an AR option, but now you can rp as one, but not actually be one! get it?

The discussion has been dead the moment the costumization options were shown. The only people left here are just latecomers, huge fans who still want the tag or just people who used to be a high elf fan, but went over to the void elves because they knew it was over. :wink Or just fanart and wishfull thinking.

But realy.. it's over.

Oh I get it. However, some people here think that they're actually playing legit helves. I'm trying to show them that they're not.

[Yarathir]

Oh I get it. However, some people here think that they're actually playing legit helves. I'm trying to show them that they're not.

You're trying to cope is what it is.

[FlubberPuddy]

I got a commission of my mage

So cool!!

I'm still getting surprised how well the blue hair goes with the lighter skin, then I realize that's been Kalecgos's M.O. as a 'half-elf' all along

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You're trying to cope is what it is.

The antagonists should really look to Obelisk Kai as an example. The great debates were had and finally a decision was made. He then just left the discussion alone in terms of debate on Alliance High Elves.

That's the mature way to go about it.

[Varodoc]

I'm surprised no one seemed to talk about the new ear options. I always found the long ears clipping through helm so stupid, so having short ear option is very appreciated.

[Packmule]

I don’t understand the fuss about this subject,

Alliance gets elves,
Horde remains having high elves.

The alliance elves left their own society, so they pretty much abandoned any claim they would have had to call themselves highelves, so their just elves. And im more then happy for you guys that you get what u wanted in 1 way or another.

[Strippling]

Problem with that distinction is that blood elves were already given dark hair.

That's not a problem at all. First, they have limited dark hair options, second they don't really have emo/goth styles like void elves do. Give void elves a variety of dark hair colors and dark hair styles to emphasize their void/dark theme. That way, players who appreciate race distinction will be respected while HE fans can play their HE fantasy (minus the blondes, reds and brown hair). It's called a compromise.

[MyWholeLifeIsThunder]

All Void Elves really need is blonde hair and maybe a few more non-tentacly hairstyles to be as High Elf as they can be, and those will probably happen later on.

In the meantime, you can make a High Elf with the current options just fine.

It's better than it was, so that's undeniable progress. Overall we are closer to the aesthetics of High Elf fantasy than we have ever been.

We are not quite there yet. For a long time I haven't believed HE's are going to be their own AR, so what we are getting is like best case scenario in terms of implementation, yet I still wish there was a lore acknowledgement of HE's -some- moving forward -say, joining the VE's- and it wasn't just the aesthetics of it; and in term of aesthetics, the lack of light hair colors when now VE's have all skin tones available is downright arbitrary and doesn't make diegetic sense -and to me, is just yet another roadblock caused by their design choices, but now specially pointless when the only difference is hair color-

[Rhlor]

1) Ion literally said you can now play a Wildhammer Dwarf when he unveiled the customization options at Blizzcon last year. This has been followed up by Steve Danuser acknowledging that even though they can't put in story explanations for every single additional race customization (Wildhammer used as an example) due to limited resources, it doesn't mean your Wildhammer Dwarf isn't a Wildhammer Dwarf.

2) Ely Cannon, Blizzard Art Director, literally answers the question of why Void Elves and Blood Elves were given 'blue eyes' by citing that a race -> High Elves, hadn't been represented on player characters.

https://www.wowhead.com/news=316803/...view-with-art-



There ya go dude, supported at 3 different occasions by, at least, 3 different top Blizzard employees on what these new character customizations represent and mean for the players. High Elves included.

You should be overjoyed since you've been claiming you 'saw the light' about getting High Elves.

I'll say it once again, take it up with Blizzard if you're finding something confusing as your statements are getting into the territory of what only Blizzard could answer for you.

This is what they've said about what they've given us, you can either accept it or bombard Blizzard with questions about it, up to you!

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It's pretty fitting too because that Witcher hairstyle is named "Wizard" in the selector lol. But yeah the new human customizations have definitely given me more appreciation for my Paladin for the time being, he's going to have that same hairstyle too!

my mage is a high elf! got trapped in outland and came home after kaelthas's defeat as a high elf pelgrim that's the story of my character. and I still use the high elf name!

[Yarathir]

I don’t understand the fuss about this subject,

Alliance gets elves,
Horde remains having high elves.

The alliance elves left their own society, so they pretty much abandoned any claim they would have had to call themselves highelves, so their just elves. And im more then happy for you guys that you get what u wanted in 1 way or another.

Well, more like

Void Elves are a race and a political faction.

High Elves learned from the Void Elves (can be seen in Telogrus Rift) to harness the Void and became Void Elves politically, but like Alleria, remained High Elves racially speaking.

So they're High Elves, like the Alliance has had to start with.

[FlubberPuddy]

the lack of light hair colors when now VE's have all skin tones available is downright arbitrary and doesn't make diegetic sense -and to me, is just yet another roadblock caused by their design choices, but now specially pointless when the only difference is hair color-

It's cool, just as I suspected that they would eventually have to give at least High Elf skins, if given they were going to deal with the request in the first place, because regardless of simply the strictly Alliance High Elf fans - the strictly Void Elf fans themselves also wanted these options which allow them to look like their leader -> Alleria.

So it was almost always a given considering even without strictly Alliance High Elf fans, the customizations we got were ones the vast majority of the Void Elf fanbase were clamoring for. There were other requests like the ones @Yarathir has made, but I'm speaking on what could easily be found if searching for 'additional void elf customization options' or the like. Lots of threads on 'give High Elf customization to Void Elves' by various members of the VE fanbase community.

I agree with the hair color thing, but I think they're saving it for when Allied Races get their 'proper turn' down the line. As I said to another, the revealing and releasing of the skin/eye tones to Void Elves with Blood Elves was to avoid unnecessary but expected backlash had they only revealed what Blood Elves were getting.

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my mage is a high elf! got trapped in outland and came home after kaelthas's defeat as a high elf pelgrim that's the story of my character. and I still use the high elf name!

And don't let anyone else tell you that's not the story of your character!

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Well, more like

Void Elves are a race and a political faction.

High Elves learned from the Void Elves (can be seen in Telogrus Rift) to harness the Void and became Void Elves politically, but like Alleria, remained High Elves racially speaking.

So they're High Elves, like the Alliance has had to start with.

1000% agree. This actually gives feasibility to the 'they're recruiting more elves' because now it shows the Void Elf options in two groups:

Pale skinned ones = those who were of Umbric's original squad and got turned against their will by that one Ethereal in a botched way.

Human skinned ones = new recruits (could potentially say after all of BFA was done or after a bit of BFA started) more akin to learning more of the Void and being taught by their kin, harnessing its power but never having had their mortality almost taken away against their will.

[Rhlor]

It's cool, just as I suspected that they would eventually have to give at least High Elf skins, if given they were going to deal with the request in the first place, because regardless of simply the strictly Alliance High Elf fans - the strictly Void Elf fans themselves also wanted these options which allow them to look like their leader -> Alleria.

So it was almost always a given considering even without strictly Alliance High Elf fans, the customizations we got were ones the vast majority of the Void Elf fanbase were clamoring for. There were other requests like the ones @Yarathir has made, but I'm speaking on what could easily be found if searching for 'additional void elf customization options' or the like. Lots of threads on 'give High Elf customization to Void Elves' by various members of the VE fanbase community.

I agree with the hair color thing, but I think they're saving it for when Allied Races get their 'proper turn' down the line. As I said to another, the revealing and releasing of the skin/eye tones to Void Elves with Blood Elves was to avoid unnecessary but expected backlash had they only revealed what Blood Elves were getting.

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And don't let anyone else tell you that's not the story of your character!

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1000% agree. This actually gives feasibility to the 'they're recruiting more elves' because now it shows the Void Elf options in two groups:

Pale skinned ones = those who were of Umbric's original squad and got turned against their will by that one Ethereal in a botched way.

Human skinned ones = new recruits (could potentially say after all of BFA was done or after a bit of BFA started) more akin to learning more of the Void and being taught by their kin, harnessing its power but never having had their mortality almost taken away against their will.

even more so when danuser said that any role we want to play with our characters with the new customizations is canon.