Official High Elf Discussion Megathread

[Strippling]

As an alliance high elf all you got is the arcane. For me personally if I wanted to play a Thalassian warlock on the alliance the lack of any proper customization kind of keeps me away from it. Same goes for one that isn't reliant on magic, a holy priest with gold etc.

Firstly, in what way are void elves lacking any proper customization for warlocks that keeps you away from them? Is there something other alliance warlock races have that void elves are missing?

Secondly, void elf priests are strictly shadow priests in lore. Being holy or discipline is a by-product of gameplay limitations. Also, given that void elves have A)infused themselves with void, and B) been banished from the sunwell, I find it hard to justify them getting golden eyes.

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It's simply to notify someone: Hey in case you didn't know, the devs don't care about it.

It really isn't "simply to notify someone". You're generally the first one to harass someone in here who posts a comment which is in disagreement with your views. You're not one to practice what you preach. It's fine to have your own opinion on the matter, just maybe avoid the hypocrisy and either practice what you preach or just allow others to share their views despite what you feel?

Quite simple.

IMO, should void elves get more customizations? Heck yes. Should blood elves? Heck yes. Should they get options that make them look more similar or options that respect some level of differentiation between the two? IMO, I'd rather them not be identical. Why? Not to be petty, but because I personally appreciate each race having something unique to them that they can have "pride" in. There is nothing wrong with races having unique features, I mean it's kind of the fundamental reason there are different races to choose from in the first place... to offer players a unique experience depending on the race they select. IMO, homogenization of races is never a good thing. You can disagree but no need to get all antsy about it just because some players view or appreciate different things to you. It's as simple as that.

[FlubberPuddy]

It really isn't "simply to notify someone". You're generally the first one to harass someone in here who posts a comment which is in disagreement with your views. You're not one to practice what you preach. It's fine to have your own opinion on the matter, just maybe avoid the hypocrisy and either practice what you preach or just allow others to share their views despite what you feel?

Responding to someone's post isn't harassment, especially if they quote me and I respond back to that.

I do practice what I preach, you'll never find any post of mine saying anything near "BEs already have so much customization, the players requesting customizations for them should stop asking for it because they have so much already."

Sadly that cannot be said for the many more I've seen who say such things about VEs. But I can only control myself, not others.

"Allow others to share their views" is exactly what you and I are doing by posting on this forum. Unsure why you're pointing out the obvious.

I point out things that aren't obvious, like telling people Blizzard's mindset of not trying to give each and every playable race an equal amount of customization options. Most players won't know that a Blizzard developer said that unless they follow all WoW news on Wowhead, which since we can see people saying 'X race has more options than Y race' show that those players don't follow all the news.

Thus, quite simply, mentioning news someone may not have heard isn't harassment. Remember, we're all free to report posts we think don't follow forum guidelines - that's all I'll say on that.

[Swnem]

I’m not talking about what Void Elves shouldn’t get because that ship has sailed, I’m talking about how Blood Elves don’t feel unique enough with their customizations. I’d be happy as a clam if they’d give me Dark Ranger options.

I don't think adding even more themes is gonna make them more unique. Blood elves already have the light theme, the fel theme and now the high elf theme. Adding another one is not gonna make them unique, it will just dilute it even more.
In my opinion they should have the fel theme expanded cause that is what they were introduced as. The light theme is already represented more clearly on the Draenei. So, the road to making blood elves unique is to double down on the fel like the void was used for Void elves.
Say, some fel scar customization, greener skin tones, hair with some fel effects, etc. Lets embrace that fel theme.

[Strippling]

I don't think adding even more themes is gonna make them more unique. Blood elves already have the light theme, the fel theme and now the high elf theme. Adding another one is not gonna make them unique, it will just dilute it even more.
In my opinion they should have the fel theme expanded cause that is what they were introduced as. The light theme is already represented more clearly on the Draenei. So, the road to making blood elves unique is to double down on the fel like the void was used for Void elves.
Say, some fel scar customization, greener skin tones, hair with some fel effects, etc. Lets embrace that fel theme. No other race has it.

Green skinned orcs say hi.

Blood elves have the farstriders, a theme which is still not available to them via customizations. Nor do they have runic markings which is another unique feature to them.

Dark rangers are a theme within the Horde and it would be great if this option was made available. In saying that, I'm not gonna cry over spilt milk if these options are never added, but it'd be great if they did. Whether they do it via blood elves (makes most sense due to the model) or via undead does not bother me.

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Responding to someone's post isn't harassment, especially if they quote me and I respond back to that.

I do practice what I preach, you'll never find any post of mine saying anything near "BEs already have so much customization, the players requesting customizations for them should stop asking for it because they have so much already."

Sadly that cannot be said for the many more I've seen who say such things about VEs. But I can only control myself, not others.

"Allow others to share their views" is exactly what you and I are doing by posting on this forum. Unsure why you're pointing out the obvious.

I point out things that aren't obvious, like telling people Blizzard's mindset of not trying to give each and every playable race an equal amount of customization options. Most players won't know that a Blizzard developer said that unless they follow all WoW news on Wowhead, which since we can see people saying 'X race has more options than Y race' show that those players don't follow all the news.

Thus, quite simply, mentioning news someone may not have heard isn't harassment. Remember, we're all free to report posts we think don't follow forum guidelines - that's all I'll say on that.

I suppose the connotation of written text can be hard to discern, it just often feels that your comments about players "opposed to void elves becoming carbon copy of blood elves" often come across as quite sour. That said, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you allow players to post on this forum without "mocking" them for the views.

[Rhlor]

oh dios mio, no more elves!

venthyr!!!

[Swnem]

Green skinned orcs say hi.

Blood elves have the farstriders, a theme which is still not available to them via customizations. Nor do they have runic markings which is another unique feature to them.

Dark rangers are a theme within the Horde and it would be great if this option was made available. In saying that, I'm not gonna cry over spilt milk if these options are never added, but it'd be great if they did. Whether they do it via blood elves (makes most sense due to the model) or via undead does not bother me.

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I suppose the connotation of written text can be hard to discern, it just often feels that your comments about players "opposed to void elves becoming carbon copy of blood elves" often come across as quite sour. That said, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you allow players to post on this forum without "mocking" them for the views.

That's a good point. I totally forgot about green orcs. Not exactly what i had in mind though. I was thinking about something more vivid like the void effects in void elves. Shinier stuff, not just the green skin.

[Eric Arthur Blair]

That's a good point. I totally forgot about green orcs. Not exactly what i had in mind though. I was thinking about something more vivid like the void effects in void elves. Shinier stuff, not just the green skin.

Something like this?

[Varodoc]

So you have an issue with people saying "void elves shouldn't get customization options that make them look like blood elves", but you'll happy declare "blood elves don't need anything".

1) Blood elves don't own fair skin options.
2) Void elves deserved fair skin options because of Alleria.

Explain how BEs are entitled to anything because of VEs getting fair skin options.

I don't want void elf options. They can keep them as they're unique to void elves and fit their theme.

I'm hoping for more blood elf options which include farstrider options (tattoos, feathers, braids), runic markings and possibly dark ranger options.

Then ask for them without making the weird and random argument that they deserve them because VEs got fair skin options.

Also if BEs get farstrider options, then so should VEs. Since the umbral rangers are former farstriders.

[delus]

As someone posted here a while back:

To quote:

The distinction would have been blue eyes, but then they gave blood elves that too, I am fine with void elves having hair and skin colours from blood elves, but I agree with you something should be different, and that should be hairstyles.

I would also limit the skin colours and hair colours they both share, I would give void elves 1 blond and 1 red ish based hair, that's it, and possible 3 skin colours, one pale white, 1 with a slight tan, and one brown.. that's it.

The hues should be different too.. like void elves get a pitch black black hair and silver white hair colour, which is different from the blood elves' black and white, but also their blond hue should be different.

This is EXACTLY how they did the eyes, they gave the blood elves 3 versions of blue, but the void elves have like 5 versions because blue eyes are native to them.

The natural skin colours on void elves should not be the same as on blood elves, but maybe that's all to do with the racism thing going on atm, so if we exampt skin colour, then hair colour is the one i think the sharing should be limited and roughly the same as the eyes.

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In summary:

From blood elves:
3 new void elf skin tones: normal pale, rose pale, and brown
3 new void elf hair colours: blonde hue, the ginger hue, brown

1. New void elf skin tones and effects: Void elf hues >> than the imported ones from blood elves
2. New void elf hair colours and effects: e.g. pure silver white, midnight pitch black, more purple and blue variations
3. New void elf hairstyles - none of these from blood elves.

Well, it's too late to limit skin color. The cat's out of the bag. Blood elf DKs also have always had access to void elf like skin tones as well.

[Beloren]

Really? Cause i see lots of blood elf fans not wanting void elves to get hairstyles or colors.
Maybe we could not care about what haters don't want, instead of gettting defensive about it and hating back?

That's unfair, we are afterall the same race with minor variations, it isn't unusual for us to ask for some void elf options, you guys have been asking for blood elf race for years, and you still asking for suff from blood elves like hair colours, just like some of your night elf counterparts are wanting the highborne stuff from the nightborne - I'm just pointing this out, afterall i have advocated for some of our colours to go o you, just not all of them.

[delus]

Green skinned orcs say hi.

Blood elves have the farstriders, a theme which is still not available to them via customizations. Nor do they have runic markings which is another unique feature to them.

Dark rangers are a theme within the Horde and it would be great if this option was made available. In saying that, I'm not gonna cry over spilt milk if these options are never added, but it'd be great if they did. Whether they do it via blood elves (makes most sense due to the model) or via undead does not bother me.

It would make the most sense to add undead elves as a forsaken option rather than blood elves. Lorewise dark rangers were members of the forsaken and the forsaken included elves.

[Ardenaso]

It would make the most sense to add undead elves as a forsaken option rather than blood elves. Lorewise dark rangers were members of the forsaken and the forsaken included elves.

agreed, it would also be really weird to see undead Demon Hunters and undead Paladins

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void elves are superior to blood elves for one reason: they dont give you a headache if you accidentally type 'lol' (Atleast on the female characters)

agreed; Void Elves > Blood Elves > Nightborne > Forsaken Elves > Naga > Satyr > High Elves > Highborne

[Swnem]

Something like this?

More in customization options, but yeah, in that vein, let's say. Like fel scars, hair fel efects, etc.
Anyways, it's just my sugestion.

[TheFirstOnes]

Enjoy your High Elves...


If you're Horde of course. AHAHAHA!

EDIT: How is that trolling? I'm literally telling the truth. oml

[Beloren]

agreed, it would also be really weird to see undead Demon Hunters and undead Paladins

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agreed; Void Elves > Blood Elves > Nightborne > Forsaken Elves > Naga > Satyr > High Elves > Highborne

In terms of what though? Gender specific? Models? Emotes? Appearance? Lore? Knowledge? Power? Loyalty? Nobility? Skill? Character? Intelligence? Integrity? Perseverance ? Persistence? Self image? Tragedy?

[Ardenaso]

In terms of what though? Emotes? Appearance? Lore? Knowledge? Power? Loyalty? Nobility? Skill? Character? Intelligence? Integrity? Perseverance ? Persistence? Self image? Tragedy?

their Thalassian-ness me thinks

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and/or probably a mixture of what you said

I'd put Blood Elves on #1 if only there wasn't a brainwashing regime there

[Beloren]

honestly as far as playable ones go, void elves > night elves > nightborne > blood elves. the blood elf voice makes her almost unplayable for me, cant shut it off because it disables all dialogue. Nightborne dont have enough customization options, if they had more/were comparable to night elves, they'd take the #2 spot. if blood elves had a better voice they'd be #1 for me

Many peeps feel it’s the BElf Male voice and model that are problematic. But I’ve always liked it.

[Ardenaso]

I'm enjoying my Alliance High Elves on the PTR and eventually on live once pre-patch hits ^_^

it's good you guys finally got your 17 year wish, meanwhile...

[Kyriani]

Enjoy your High Elves...


If you're Horde of course. AHAHAHA!

EDIT: How is that trolling? I'm literally telling the truth. oml

I'm enjoying my Alliance High Elves on the PTR and eventually on live once pre-patch hits ^_^


And remember, as Ion Hazsikostas said here:

Blood Elves are pretty much High Elves... Void Elves are also pretty much another flavor of High Elves
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BsxB4NJIBs

[Beloren]

Well, it's too late to limit skin color. The cat's out of the bag. Blood elf DKs also have always had access to void elf like skin tones as well.

It isn't actually, we're still in beta, and just because of this it's something they can alter.

I don't think i'm wrong to say all the high elf crowd and more would be happy with 1 to 3 of the blood elf skin tones (my recommendation is a pale, medium and tanned hue), not the whole colour scheme.

It would be weird if blood/high elf skin tones were more than the unique void elf variations. And if it can be done to skin colour, you can do the same for hair. Don't need all the blood elf hair colours, and non would admittedly be weird, so again 2-3 only, maybe 2 blonde shades and a brown, or 1 blonde, 1 reddish/orange and 1 brown. Then add a lot more hair colour options to void elves like pure silver white/ pitch black, and more purple/blue /nexus like colours + effects

THe idea is while you have options for original high/blood elf tones, they're much more limited compared to what you get with blood elves