Official High Elf Discussion Megathread

[MyWholeLifeIsThunder]

Nice work on those.

Thank you! It helps I have a library of correction layers for hair color at this point heh

[Kyriani]

I love the way those look!

[Frenchvince]

On one hand I don't think hairstyle exclusivity matters much when several races share a lot of hairstyles, but also don't see as a necessity to have BE hairstyles; I also think it is the sort of thing that actually can help solidify a new identity through aesthetics, such as how Alleria looks different from Blood Elves because of her retro-aesthetics -hairstyle, tattoos and decorative feathers)

And perfection would be how Void Elves adopt that aesthetic, in a way that also serves as a High Elf one through options -much like how you can get a Highborne aesthetic on Night Elves with certain choices- Regardless, I do think it would be good for Void Elves to take more of their aesthetics from Alleria, because beside Blood Elven background, that's like the only role model they have to emulate in universe -It's still kinda weird that VE aesthetics, the few we have of them, seems so based on ethereal stuff when there's more of an implication of connection rather than a direct link; like it would have made a lot more sense for Void Elves to base their aesthetics on Alleria on the first place since she saved them-

Overall, I am excited about the possibilities; more Alleria inspired aesthetics can give us that High Elf feel in a way that also makes sense for Void Elves, while VE's can outright also push more into Void territory.

Some mock ups of more HE looks without changing the hairstyle

It's really great work, I love it !

I hope Blizzard takes a look at your twitter account and gets inspired by your ideas, they should even recruit you !

[Vaedan]

On one hand I don't think hairstyle exclusivity matters much when several races share a lot of hairstyles, but also don't see as a necessity to have BE hairstyles; I also think it is the sort of thing that actually can help solidify a new identity through aesthetics, such as how Alleria looks different from Blood Elves because of her retro-aesthetics -hairstyle, tattoos and decorative feathers)

And perfection would be how Void Elves adopt that aesthetic, in a way that also serves as a High Elf one through options -much like how you can get a Highborne aesthetic on Night Elves with certain choices- Regardless, I do think it would be good for Void Elves to take more of their aesthetics from Alleria, because beside Blood Elven background, that's like the only role model they have to emulate in universe -It's still kinda weird that VE aesthetics, the few we have of them, seems so based on ethereal stuff when there's more of an implication of connection rather than a direct link; like it would have made a lot more sense for Void Elves to base their aesthetics on Alleria on the first place since she saved them-

Overall, I am excited about the possibilities; more Alleria inspired aesthetics can give us that High Elf feel in a way that also makes sense for Void Elves, while VE's can outright also push more into Void territory.

Some mock ups of more HE looks without changing the hairstyle

I really like how tattoo complement the hairstyle. In this ranger look, I think some night elf and (dark iron) dwarf hairstyles could work really well too. With DK exclusive colors opened up for rest of classes, I really hope void elves would get that blue hair available as well at some point.

[Varodoc]

Funny how in-game void elves don't have black hair, when there's a void elf in the lore who has black hair:

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/he...20180430193834

This is a void elf cartographer from Hearthstone, with clear black hair.

[Kyriani]

Funny how in-game void elves don't have black hair, when there's a void elf in the lore who has black hair:

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/he...20180430193834

This is a void elf cartographer from Hearthstone, with clear black hair.

There's also a void elf NPC in game who has black hair. But from my understanding the hair texture isn't actually meant for void elf hair so the tentacles don't glow and just look like solid black rubber tubes or something.

https://www.wowhead.com/npc=133509/riftwarden-acolyte
This is a generic NPC that has 4 versions. One of them is a female with black hair. I'm not sure which texture she's using though. Human maybe?

[Varodoc]

There's also a void elf NPC in game who has black hair. But from my understanding the hair texture isn't actually meant for void elf hair so the tentacles don't glow and just look like solid black rubber tubes or something.

https://www.wowhead.com/npc=133509/riftwarden-acolyte
This is a generic NPC that has 4 versions. One of them is a female with black hair. I'm not sure which texture she's using though. Human maybe?

I see, is that one of the NPCs from around the Stormwind Embassy?

Also why does Blizzard have to be so dumb. They literally have black hair for void elves NPCs in the game, why they don't extend that to players is beyond me...

The hair looks perfect even with the black tentacle anyway. The black hair flows through the tentacle in a way that feels natural.

[Kyriani]

This npc sometimes wanders around stormwind with a High Elf Sorceress npc but it varies as to which of the four variants is with the sorceress so it's not always that particular version with her. I actually dont think it looks "perfect" or even good because of the tentacles. There is no hair detail at all on the tentacles and I think it's only passably acceptable because it's black. If it were a lighter color I think it would look really bad.

[Sevryn]

I will break every single one of your jaws. No problem

[Redzonetode]

Yeah, I made posts on the forum as early as pre-patch for BFA about the black hair for void elves (and that npc). Even submitted bugs. No luck.

Also, I'm surprised there wasn't more uproar over the so-called high elf options for void elves/blood elves. I went on the PTR and discovered I can make a very convincing high elf on Horde, but it's impossible on alliance due to hair colors + entropic embrace. Really is a slap in the face, isn't it?

[Kyriani]

Yeah, I made posts on the forum as early as pre-patch for BFA about the black hair for void elves (and that npc). Even submitted bugs. No luck.

Also, I'm surprised there wasn't more uproar over the so-called high elf options for void elves/blood elves. I went on the PTR and discovered I can make a very convincing high elf on Horde, but it's impossible on alliance due to hair colors + entropic embrace. Really is a slap in the face, isn't it?

I wouldn't say it's impossible. The greyish/silver, blue/green and wine red hair colors, work well enough for a High Elf look. Not all High Elves are blonde. That's not to say I don't want black, white, blonde, and brown, just that it's not impossible to work with what we have until the allied race customization pass happens.

I thought these worked well as High Elf looks:

[Isilrien]

I wouldn't say it's impossible. The greyish/silver, blue/green and wind red hair colors...

Sorry, but what is "wind red"? Thanks

[Kyriani]

Sorry, but what is "wind red"? Thanks

I edited that after... I meant to type "wine" red.

[Isilrien]

I edited that after... I meant to type "wine" red.

Ohhh, gotcha! The wine red is pretty

[MyWholeLifeIsThunder]

I really like how tattoo complement the hairstyle. In this ranger look, I think some night elf and (dark iron) dwarf hairstyles could work really well too. With DK exclusive colors opened up for rest of classes, I really hope void elves would get that blue hair available as well at some point.

That's one thing I find really interesting about this hairstyle; it reads different as a HE or VE, markings or no markings; those are the best customization options, those that have an element of context.

I'm hopeful we will get some cool hair color options, specially white and black on VE's -and LFD also need dark hair colors-

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It's really great work, I love it !

I hope Blizzard takes a look at your twitter account and gets inspired by your ideas, they should even recruit you !

Hahha thank you XD Honestly I'm just re-framing what they have already done; the artists there are amazing and I'm 100% that if they were allowed to simply go for that high elf customization by the developers, we would be seeing simply awesome stuff.

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I wouldn't say it's impossible. The greyish/silver, blue/green and wine red hair colors, work well enough for a High Elf look. Not all High Elves are blonde. That's not to say I don't want black, white, blonde, and brown, just that it's not impossible to work with what we have until the allied race customization pass happens.

I thought these worked well as High Elf looks:

Also everything with a Hood tbh

[kflay]

I really like the blue eyes option, but the problem is, it really only works on the Horde side. I want to play that kind of character on the Alliance side, and there you only have purple hair options. Until they at least add blonde hair options for Void Elves, it won't feel right. But better yet, just make them their own Allied Race already.

Also can't be Void Elf Paladin, so the coolest option already falls away.

[Frenchvince]

[MyWholeLifeIsThunder]

I really like the blue eyes option, but the problem is, it really only works on the Horde side. I want to play that kind of character on the Alliance side, and there you only have purple hair options. Until they at least add blonde hair options for Void Elves, it won't feel right. But better yet, just make them their own Allied Race already.

Also can't be Void Elf Paladin, so the coolest option already falls away.

The problem is that but giving "HE Options" to both VE and BE, the likelihood of AR HE now is just minimal; like at this point is just more plausible VE's get more hair colors some day than that, so IDK, it's about expectations.

And as I have said before, I like High Elf Paladins, I'd play a High Elf paladin. But High Elves have never been defined by their ability to be Paladins; it's just not a requisite of alliance HE fantasy in the way that warmer hair colors are -as actually present on most HE NPC's-

[kflay]

The problem is that but giving "HE Options" to both VE and BE, the likelihood of AR HE now is just minimal; like at this point is just more plausible VE's get more hair colors some day than that, so IDK, it's about expectations.

And as I have said before, I like High Elf Paladins, I'd play a High Elf paladin. But High Elves have never been defined by their ability to be Paladins; it's just not a requisite of alliance HE fantasy in the way that warmer hair colors are -as actually present on most HE NPC's-

To be honest, even Void Elves with blond hair color would not be good enough for me, especially because of the racials, but also because of missing mount, heritage armor etc. options. It still wouldn't be a High Elf to me. Blood Elves will now be the closest to playable High Elves, but they are on the Horde side. Whole thing is a mess.

[MyWholeLifeIsThunder]

To be honest, even Void Elves with blond hair color would not be good enough for me, especially because of the racials, but also because of missing mount, heritage armor etc. options. It still wouldn't be a High Elf to me. Blood Elves will now be the closest to playable High Elves, but they are on the Horde side. Whole thing is a mess.

I understand that; I too wish HE's had been an AR on their own, but the thing is, everything that has happened since VE's were introduced makes that possibility less and less likely, so we either make do with what we have and keep requesting for a closer HE aesthetic within that parameters, or just remain unhappy forever, which feels simply unhealthy.

We have choices here, not good ones, but we do have them, so you can either reframe your own expectations in a more positive manner or decide WoW just isn't for you then, with both options being valid.

But to be honest, part of me still thinks there will be a faction shake-up some day, which might further make VE/BE distinctions moot.

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He seems like a cool guy, but it's like literally saying "I'll let them know!" Which he might, but it's not his department so there's little he can actually do about it.