Official High Elf Discussion Megathread

[Doffen]

I see you and some alliance players in this thread asking for undead customization for blood elves. and me as a blood elf player saying that would be bad. not worth discussing let's talk about high elves in the high elves thread!

Don't know what you and the other people have discussed, but just want to say I agree with you that Undead High Elf customization should be an Undead option.

Not that it will ever, ever happen, but for me that's most logical. Sylvanas(well not now anymore l o l) and her Dark Rangers belongs to the Forsaken, aka Undead.

[Ardenaso]

late celebration for 1.1k pages

if the Void Elves were allowed to look like Alleria, then the Forsaken should be allowed to look like Sylvanas or Velonara at least

Undead Elf customizations for Forsaken

[Doffen]

late celebration for 1.1k pages

if the Void Elves were allowed to look like Alleria, then the Forsaken should be allowed to look like Sylvanas or Velonara at least

Undead Elf customizations for Forsaken

It's a big wet dream I have had for a long time. Would love Forsaken High Elves as playable. But it is still just a dream.

Maybe in 2 years :P

[MyWholeLifeIsThunder]

Don't know what you and the other people have discussed, but just want to say I agree with you that Undead High Elf customization should be an Undead option.

Not that it will ever, ever happen, but for me that's most logical. Sylvanas(well not now anymore l o l) and her Dark Rangers belongs to the Forsaken, aka Undead.

I think a lot of people are looking at it as if there is a "right" answer, which is the whole problem we had with High Elves as a thing: it's the pretension there's a correct answer that we can surmise through lore and the game, and it's not simply an issue of a decision from the developers.

High Elves could have been an AR if the developers chose to, instead, they gave us a close aesthetic through Void Elves.

It's the same issue with San'layn/Undead Elves, they could be made playable, could be an AR, could be BE or Undead customization.

It's about possibility and options, not about one single way it could be done; It makes lore sense for undead elves to be forsaken customization, but aesthetically, it also makes sense for them to be Blood Elves since sanlayn and undead elf NPC's already use that model with unique textures. Either could work, but again, it's an issue about a developer choice, not a "truth" -pretty much how the High Elf issue was-

[Doffen]

I think a lot of people are looking at it as if there is a "right" answer, which is the whole problem we had with High Elves as a thing: it's the pretension there's a correct answer that we can surmise through lore and the game, and it's not simply an issue of a decision from the developers.

High Elves could have been an AR if the developers chose to, instead, they gave us a close aesthetic through Void Elves.

It's the same issue with San'layn/Undead Elves, they could be made playable, could be an AR, could be BE or Undead customization.

It's about possibility and options, not about one single way it could be done; It makes lore sense for undead elves to be forsaken customization, but aesthetically, it also makes sense for them to be Blood Elves since sanlayn and undead elf NPC's already use that model with unique textures. Either could work, but again, it's an issue about a developer choice, not a "truth" -pretty much how the High Elf issue was-

Well I wouldn't complain if it was a Blood Elf option, I am speaking strictly lore wise as Forsaken with Sylvanas and Dark Rangers has been like the picture of undead High Elves.

If it was a Tauren option I wouldn't complain either just to be hyperbolic to show if it happen, I wouldn't mind how it was done if you know what I mean(because I really, really want it), but my point is how I would have done it if Undead High Elves had been a thing. About the rest of your post which is logical for sure, personally I think the chance of it to happen is rather slim(and I fear the chance is less than that), because I think the devs are quite happy now with how many races we have and such, but the possibility is always there, and quite frankly that's always a positive thought. Which is why I added maybe in two years in the latest post, because that's how I like to approach this

That little chance is the reason why I am still hoping for it, and we'll never know!

[Rhlor]

Don't know what you and the other people have discussed, but just want to say I agree with you that Undead High Elf customization should be an Undead option.

Not that it will ever, ever happen, but for me that's most logical. Sylvanas(well not now anymore l o l) and her Dark Rangers belongs to the Forsaken, aka Undead.

the truth happened a couple of times already in the thread where alliance players say they have to give undead options to the blood elves. I say that this is not our theme and that they should add more options for the forsaken.

but I think that talking about high elves again is the best thing I'm very happy with how my mage looks now.

[shoc]

they have to give undead options to the blood elves.

[Rhlor]

void elves also have DK and humans too, undead options for all races?

[MyWholeLifeIsThunder]

Well I wouldn't complain if it was a Blood Elf option, I am speaking strictly lore wise as Forsaken with Sylvanas and Dark Rangers has been like the picture of undead High Elves.

If it was a Tauren option I wouldn't complain either just to be hyperbolic to show if it happen, I wouldn't mind how it was done if you know what I mean(because I really, really want it), but my point is how I would have done it if Undead High Elves had been a thing. About the rest of your post which is logical for sure, personally I think the chance of it to happen is rather slim(and I fear the chance is less than that), because I think the devs are quite happy now with how many races we have and such, but the possibility is always there, and quite frankly that's always a positive thought. Which is why I added maybe in two years in the latest post, because that's how I like to approach this

That little chance is the reason why I am still hoping for it, and we'll never know!

Basically; and indeed, there is a change! A year ago you would have been called crazy if you said VE's would get BE skin tones and blue eyes, so you never know what might happen.

So yeah, what I am saying, is that were San'layn/Undead Elves to be added as a customization option, it's one one "correct" answer, but a set of possibilities, as the "playable alliance high elf" issue, where we got the compromise of most of the aesthetic on VE's.

[Ielenia]

High Elves can easily be Paladins, just happens to be that 100% of them are in the Horde.

I wonder when people will stop trying to bait others by making objectively false statements...

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many alliance players asking for blonde hair but for me a high elf looks great with blue hair !! my mage looks great!

I don't mind the colors, but I wouldn't mind a little more variety. Honestly, I don't even mind that the void elf hair styles for both males and females are of the "messier" variety, but I do wish we had more "non-tentacle-y" hair options.

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late celebration for 1.1k pages

if the Void Elves were allowed to look like Alleria, then the Forsaken should be allowed to look like Sylvanas or Velonara at least

Undead Elf customizations for Forsaken

Asking the forsaken to look like Sylvanas is kind of like asking the dark irons to have fair skin options because heir leader is an Ironforge dwarf, or, worse, that lightforged draenei should look like humans because Turalyon once lead them.

Considering all forsaken are humans from Lordaeron, I believe the best forsaken players would have is something akin to Calia Menethil's current looks, considering that Sylvanas is an elf, not a human.

[Rhlor]

I wonder when people will stop trying to bait others by making objectively false statements...

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I don't mind the colors, but I wouldn't mind a little more variety. Honestly, I don't even mind that the void elf hair styles for both males and females are of the "messier" variety, but I do wish we had more "non-tentacle-y" hair options.

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Asking the forsaken to look like Sylvanas is kind of like asking the dark irons to have fair skin options because heir leader is an Ironforge dwarf, or, worse, that lightforged draenei should look like humans because Turalyon once lead them.

Considering all forsaken are humans from Lordaeron, I believe the best forsaken players would have is something akin to Calia Menethil's current looks, considering that Sylvanas is an elf, not a human.

all undeads that are part of the forsaken society are forsaken.

[Vaedan]

I think a lot of people are looking at it as if there is a "right" answer, which is the whole problem we had with High Elves as a thing: it's the pretension there's a correct answer that we can surmise through lore and the game, and it's not simply an issue of a decision from the developers.

High Elves could have been an AR if the developers chose to, instead, they gave us a close aesthetic through Void Elves.

It's the same issue with San'layn/Undead Elves, they could be made playable, could be an AR, could be BE or Undead customization.

It's about possibility and options, not about one single way it could be done; It makes lore sense for undead elves to be forsaken customization, but aesthetically, it also makes sense for them to be Blood Elves since sanlayn and undead elf NPC's already use that model with unique textures. Either could work, but again, it's an issue about a developer choice, not a "truth" -pretty much how the High Elf issue was-

Honestly, I believe the best option would be separate AR. Customizations can be swapped easily and being undead is permanent thing. The same applies to elf options on Forsaken - you were either human or elf before you died. I guess it does not matter in the end, since most of these customizations are for player RP agenda, but I'd find it awkward. As it currently stands, I find it more likely for Blizz to add it as character customizations (it is one of the major themes of Shadowlands) and I think it's more likely to see it on blood elves, rather then Forsaken, because it takes less effort to do so.

Unfortunatelly, I don't think we will see new AR in a while now, maybe at the end of SL, but I expect it later then sooner, if ever. They would also need to make their models interesting, lore is not enough to make successful AR, nightborne pretty much proved that.

many alliance players asking for blonde hair but for me a high elf looks great with blue hair !! my mage looks great!

Sure, high elves with blue hair looks great. There are some high elf NPCs with blue hair already.

My void elf now finaly has proper high elf look too!

[Ielenia]

all undeads that are part of the forsaken society are forsaken.

Yeah, but, the player's forsaken character is a Lordaeronian human. It makes no sense for them to be anything else. The only option, as far as I can see, is to make an allied race.

[Thalassian Bob]

When in Rome, do as the Romans do:





I may not like many of the surviving high elves, but I won't deny that Thalassians look better in blue...

[Varodoc]

Why is no one talking about the pink eyes? Like tell me this doesn't look fabulous:



All of you Vereesa fanboys are disappointing, none of you are choosing the eye colour that Vereesa actually has in the lore. So shameful.

[Kyriani]

Why is no one talking about the pink eyes? Like tell me this doesn't look fabulous:



All of you Vereesa fanboys are disappointing, none of you are choosing the eye colour that Vereesa actually has in the lore. So shameful.

I'd be using them right now if they had pupils. I really want a version of them that look like the blue eyes but purple instead. So for now I am using the blue, but I might try the purple again if they give me a black hair option. Unfortunately current purple eyes with the current Void Elf hair colors just don't work for the look I am going for on my mage.

You do look great though!

[Frenchvince]

Sure, high elves with blue hair looks great. There are some high elf NPCs with blue hair already.

My void elf now finaly has proper high elf look too!

Now that we can make a high elf with blue hair in the horde and in the alliance it gets interesting for the future ... or not.

[Ardenaso]

Considering all forsaken are humans from Lordaeron, I believe the best forsaken players would have is something akin to Calia Menethil's current looks, considering that Sylvanas is an elf, not a human.

Dalar Dawnweaver is Dalarani, the Defilers are Stromic; the Dark Rangers are Thalassian; Sira Moonwarden and Lyani were Night Elves

[Vaedan]

Now that we can make a high elf with blue hair in the horde and in the alliance it gets interesting for the future ... or not.

I must admit, I'm a little jealous of that light blue color blood elves got from their DK, I wish this color to be unlocked for void elves too.. on the other hand, Alliance has slightly better T-mog options for high elves, but nothing significant really. Alliance have some PvP sets in blue color plus some pieces of Arathi WF armor also goes pretty well along high elf transmogs.

I may not like many of the surviving high elves, but I won't deny that Thalassians look better in blue...

Agreed. There is something cool about thalassians wearing glorious Alliance blue

[Ielenia]

Dalar Dawnweaver is Dalarani, the Defilers are Stromic; the Dark Rangers are Thalassian; Sira Moonwarden and Lyani were Night Elves

Those are exceptions, not the norm. And none of that changes the fact that new forsaken player characters start the game rising from a grave in Lordaeron, which was a human kingdom before the fall. Hence what I said: I believe the best forsaken players could get is something akin to Calia Menethil's current looks, since Calia is a human like the forsaken player characters.