Official High Elf Discussion Megathread

[Rhlor]

Well, we don't know what relations are between zandalari and sand trolls now, after zandalari joined the Horde. Truth be told, Zuldazar was kind of safe haven for all trollkind, so you could see even gurrubashi and amani in Dazar'Alor and these are sworn enemies of the Horde. All these tribes you see here are still independent, they are not vassals of the Zandalari and are not affected by their decisions. Farraki featured on several occasions during storyline of Zandalar:

- We encounter them shortly after we make a landfall in Dazar'Alor with Talanji and Zul. They appear to be hostile towards the Horde and does not approve of the Horde presence here.
- As we are doing quests in Zuldazar, you discover that Sandfury in Dazar'Alor are basically thugs who are causing problems in the Golden Bazaar, so you are sent to put them down.
- During questline in Voldun, you find out that sand trolls ultimately team up with general Jakra'zet (who is sand troll himself) and act against the crown of Dazar'alor. They are openly against Zandalari making allies with the Horde. You fight them in the desert, so they are quite openly hostile to you.

All of it points out that Zandalari don't have pretty good relations with sand trolls. You could hardly call them allies. Still, Sandfury trolls are their own tribe, independent on the Zandalari and the Horde. As of BfA or Shadowlands, there is no lore indicating they joined the Horde, so right now, they are not officially part of the Horde. Your character is meant to be special and you are the one who make up its story how it ended up working with the Horde.

Also, Zul'Farak and Echo Isles may be on the same continent, but they are pretty far from each other, in case you haven't seen map. That argument is completely irrelevant. In that logic, you could easily allow undead elves start their questing experience in Eversong, since both blood elf and forsaken capitals are on the same continent...

I know you oppose undead elves pretty fiercely, but if you make some arguments, put some thought in them. Sometimes it feels like you are opposing the idea only to be some opposition there, without any relevant arguments. It is definitely good to express your opinion on that matter, but stay constructive and make valid points.



Almost all faction wars we've been through in WoW were based on Humans vs Orcs. Humans are the very core of the Alliance, so I don't think there is a chance for these two races to swap factions. Also, if you really want to play on a faction where humans and elves work together, Alliance is here for you buddy.

The only race Horde needs to be complete are OGRES, definitely not Alteraci, which were never part of the faction to begin with. Horde have very little reason to ally with them now, especially after syndicate wanted to make slaves of them.



Agreed. If we get hair tentacles as separate customization, it will help a lot, in a similar way you can now customize beards and moustaches separately. I've also seen fan concepts which replaced tentacles with braids and it didn't look bad. Most of void elf hairstyles are actually "messy" versions of some blood elf hairstyles + tentacles. Having option to remove tentacles or replace them with braids could lead into more rugged appearance, in line with ranger theme.

sand trolls are trolls, undeads are udeads. that's the essential difference. but I'm already tired of talking about things other than high elves in the high elf thread !!

my high elf paladin and Captain Thalo'thas Brightsun in ratchet

[Frenchvince]

sand trolls are trolls, undeads are udeads. that's the essential difference. but I'm already tired of talking about things other than high elves in the high elf thread !!

my high elf paladin and Captain Thalo'thas Brightsun in ratchet

I don't understand why people are talking about anything else here, especially san'layn / dark ranger, there is a thread for blood elves it seems to me.
I will stop talking about it because anyway I do not agree with these people.

[Rhlor]

I don't understand why people are talking about anything else here, especially san'layn / dark ranger, there is a thread for blood elves it seems to me.
I will stop talking about it because anyway I do not agree with these people.

https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...an%27laynThere is a tendency for some players of the alliance to want to relate the blood elves with the cannibal monsters to say "the alliance is great the blood elves are garbage"

[Vaedan]

https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...an%27laynThere is a tendency for some players of the alliance to want to relate the blood elves with the cannibal monsters to say "the alliance is great the blood elves are garbage"

I'm afraid this is only your opinion, since there are quite many blood elf players interested in that option. I also don't see any reason why would that make elves garbage? Can you elaborate?

[Mirishka]

I'd like to see void elves get some of the blonde hair colors. I think at that point, I would 100% feel like 'yeah, I'm playing a High elf, finally'.

(yes I realize that playing any void or blood elf is technically playing one already, but still want the hair colors)

[Rhlor]

I'm afraid this is only your opinion, since there are quite many blood elf players interested in that option. I also don't see any reason why would that make elves garbage? Can you elaborate?

you can read the thread of ravenmoon

[Syegfryed]

I dont get Horde players sometimes. They want High Elves, strait backed Forsaken/Trolls/Orcs, Forsaken with no decay, Humans with red eyes, Night Elves with red eyes, regular ass Humans, and dibs on Paladin classes. Its like they want to be Red Alliance.

we don't want that, we don't want regular humans, neither night elves, don't pretend those small niche speak for the faction

yet i see no reason why straight orcs and forsaken have anything to do with red alliance, neither the "dibs" on paladin classes?

Also, it amuses me how people here are against the option of undead elf to forsaken when its complete normal to void elf to get another race look too, like this rly matter at this point

[Vaedan]

you can read the thread of ravenmoon

I did and there were actually many Horde players saying San'layn are all right and void elves are monsters who endanger Sunwell, so your interpretation is pretty surprising. I just didn't see anything like that in the whole thread, but we need not to discuss it here.

[Rhlor]

I did and there were actually many Horde players saying San'layn are all right and void elves are monsters who endanger Sunwell, so your interpretation is pretty surprising. I just didn't see anything like that in the whole thread, but we need not to discuss it here.

Horde players refuted that the Blood Elves accepted the Sanlyn as part of their own society and that even when those Sanlayn joined the Forsaken! at no time are they seen interacting with any blood elf.

[Kyriani]

I'd like to see void elves get some of the blonde hair colors. I think at that point, I would 100% feel like 'yeah, I'm playing a High elf, finally'.

(yes I realize that playing any void or blood elf is technically playing one already, but still want the hair colors)

I too would like to see Void Elves get some of the more typical hair colors. While I have no objection to blonde, in my case I really want a deep dark black. My character is based on my first ever D&D character and she had black hair and purple eyes... well I have the purple eyes option, now I just need the black hair and she will be complete! For now though, I have to use the blue eyes because the purple eyes with the current Void Elf hair colors just doesn't work for the look I want.

[shoc]

I dont get Horde players sometimes. They want High Elves, strait backed Forsaken/Trolls/Orcs, Forsaken with no decay, Humans with red eyes, Night Elves with red eyes, regular ass Humans, and dibs on Paladin classes. Its like they want to be Red Alliance.

Aren't I pretty enough for the Horde??

[Wired-Lain]

No, the next step is giving them more corruption options and a shadowy form that looks like Alleria's. Do not forget the name that appears on the race selection screen, it's not "High elf". Never forget that.

Exiles Reach makes it explicit all dwarves are Bronzebeards that hail exclusively from Ironforge. Should we delete the Wildhammer stuff?

All Trolls are darkspear, we better get rid of that new Sandtroll style skin option.

All Mag'har come from AU Draenor, dont think about playing one from Outland!

All Goblins are the same guy who personally battled Gallywix, and is actually the rightful trade prince of the cartel.

All Humans are from stormwind, the only backstory you're allowed is that you trained in Northshire, anything else is wrong.


I'm sorry but if this is your logic you must be playing the most boring mmorpg on the planet. Variety is a good thing. Facilitating more of it doesn't hurt anyone. Nothing is lost by providing options.

False. They're not "just a skin retexture and some red eyes". "Dead elf" customization options completely alter the player model since "dead elf" model uses the thalassian elf model, not the forsaken model.

Swing and a miss. I'm describing customization for the blood elves.

[Varodoc]

Exiles Reach makes it explicit all dwarves are Bronzebeards that hail exclusively from Ironforge. Should we delete the Wildhammer stuff?

All Trolls are darkspear, we better get rid of that new Sandtroll style skin option.

All Mag'har come from AU Draenor, dont think about playing one from Outland!

All Goblins are the same guy who personally battled Gallywix, and is actually the rightful trade prince of the cartel.

All Humans are from stormwind, the only backstory you're allowed is that you trained in Northshire, anything else is wrong.


I'm sorry but if this is your logic you must be playing the most boring mmorpg on the planet. Variety is a good thing. Facilitating more of it doesn't hurt anyone. Nothing is lost by providing options.



Swing and a miss. I'm describing customization for the blood elves.

What are you even saying? You realize I have been asking for fair skin options since 2017, right? All I am saying is that now Blizzard should focus on the opposite side of the spectrum and reinforce the corrupted aspect of Void elves.

[Ielenia]

Swing and a miss. I'm describing customization for the blood elves.

I'm sorry, but the only one who did a "swing and a miss" here was you, considering that:
• You never once specified you were talking about blood elves in your posts;
• You butted-in a conversation in which the other poster and I were talking about dark ranger and san'layn option to the forsaken.

It's not my fault you decided to talk about a different race than what was being discussed here when you jumped into a conversation you weren't originally part of.

[MyWholeLifeIsThunder]

Black, white and silver would be cool.

AR will definitely get something when it's their turn -so far they have only got ports from other race assets + eye colors- So we WILL be seeing more hair colors and styles for VE's, question for me is when.

As for getting normal/HE hair colors, can't be sure, but I strongly believe we will get lighter tones at least (whether they are warm or natural, I do not know) Same for all AR tbh.

So either AR get their own pass later down the line, or who know, they end up being merged with their core races where applicable -same model- How would that work with NB and VE is another thing, but could work either if faction restrictions as a whole are lessened, or if Horde gets a group of VE's and Alliance a group of NB. But that's just more wishful thinking on my part.

[Rhlor]

Obi-Wan Kenobi. You're my only hope

[Ardenaso]

I dont get Horde players sometimes. They want High Elves, strait backed Forsaken/Trolls/Orcs, Forsaken with no decay, Humans with red eyes, Night Elves with red eyes, regular ass Humans, and dibs on Paladin classes. Its like they want to be Red Alliance.

fear not; the Alteraci's theme is banditry after all - if anything they would be as morally greyTM as the Forsaken and TBC Blood Elves

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I will agree that demands for Alteraci humans make basically zero sense though!

Blood Elves also "didn't make sense" for the Horde but here we are, most played race in the Horde. Let's do it again I see nothing wrong with it!

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I don't understand why people are talking about anything else here, especially san'layn / dark ranger, there is a thread for blood elves it seems to me.
I will stop talking about it because anyway I do not agree with these people.

better move it here I guess?

https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...-faction-ideas

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High Elf Lieutenant

https://www.hiveworkshop.com/threads...aptain.327990/

[Rusken]

Without reading any of this, or caring about the subject at all. I can't imagine why on earth there's 20,000 posts arguing about a third Blood Elf race being in the game.

Like; why not at this point? Let's just keep adding Blood Elves with slightly different available hairstyles. I'm sure there's at least 5 more variants of Elves that people can think of some reason to add. Makes it easy for Blizzard too, all they have to do is move the RGB slider around for a different base hair colour and ship it.

[MyWholeLifeIsThunder]

better move it here I guess?

https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...-faction-ideas

TBH and I don't know if this is a bad thing, this does feel like a holistic Elf thread rather than just High Elves. Maybe we should have a generic elf thread, they are indeed one of the most popular races -and a lot of that beyond aesthetics is how politically and culturally diverse they are-

[Vaedan]

TBH and I don't know if this is a bad thing, this does feel like a holistic Elf thread rather than just High Elves. Maybe we should have a generic elf thread, they are indeed one of the most popular races -and a lot of that beyond aesthetics is how politically and culturally diverse they are-

I feel many posters here actually adopted Blizzard's view that a high elf means thalassian elf, regardless of political affiliation, you hardly see these "blood elves are high elves" vs "true high elves are on the Alliance" fights lately. Even though this thread was originaly meant to be about Alliance aligned elves, that changed. Right now, the only elves excluded from the discussions are night elves and nightborne and their mutated offshoots like naga and satyr, but I don't these races should be counted among elven groups, since they were changed fundamentally.

What I like lately is that people here are posting their take on high elves, inspiring others on their appearances. I'm myself quite a T-mog hunter, so I'm always into some t-mog sharing

Here's one of the T-mogs I made recently, in honor of thalassian ancestry of my character. I only wish I could make that green glow on shoulders disappear, or recolour it to blue or gold one.