Official High Elf Discussion Megathread

[Ardenaso]

Mmm, I think that the Stratholme Harbor and the small high elf pier with the tower that you can find in WoW should either be the same location, or be pretty near. Could be used as a safe area that refugees have flocked towards. Maybe the He pier was a small trading outpost between QT and the human kingdoms -specially Stratholme-

I see. I was thinking of adding an extra quest to unlock Sorceresses since in that chapter they were just slapped in the game. Something like recover some runestone from Ogre Magi as a callback to the High Elven Druidic Runestone in WC2

https://www.hiveworkshop.com/threads...courge.330575/

also, is this a good lore flavor text?

Mehlar Dawnblade - Although the Order of the Silver Hand accepted non-humans within the ranks such as Dwarves, very few High Elves such as Mehlar chose to join the Order. Like the High Elven Silver Hand Priests and Kirin Tor Sorceresses, Mehlar chose to ignore the High Elven King Anasterian Sunstrider's royal decree for all High Elves to return home after he seceded from the Alliance.

[MyWholeLifeIsThunder]

I see. I was thinking of adding an extra quest to unlock Sorceresses since in that chapter they were just slapped in the game. Something like recover some runestone from Ogre Magi as a callback to the High Elven Druidic Runestone in WC2

https://www.hiveworkshop.com/threads...courge.330575/

also, is this a good lore flavor text?

Mmm, I was thinking, it's entirely likely Melhar was nearby Stratholme investigating the rumours, much like the elven priests we met in the human campaign, with his own group -remember that the priests we met during the campaign came down from Quel'thalas itself, so much like the Kirin Tor, Quel'thalas was also doing their own investigation to a degree.

That could help on the flavor text, also could be interesting his groups is seeking the runestone to lock the pass to the elven pier.

[Eleann]

look exactly like Belfs

.....HAHAHAHAH!!! HAHAHAHAHA he literally posted the only 2 hairstyles (one of them being BALD) that exist in the game that look same (almost) to Blood elves just to prove a point!! You do realize we have a ponytail with a tentacle hanging from it that looks like a dick? And our hair colors are just blues and purples? Yea it annoys me man, and no I won't switch Horde just for that because it beats the whole purpose of Void elves even being in the Alliance. If they are not appealing enough for us to play them you might as well take them back in the Horde cause I'm really sick and tired of blue and purple hair. Point made.

[Rhlor]

.....HAHAHAHAH!!! HAHAHAHAHA he literally posted the only 2 hairstyles (one of them being BALD) that exist in the game that look same (almost) to Blood elves just to prove a point!! You do realize we have a ponytail with a tentacle hanging from it that looks like a dick? And our hair colors are just blues and purples? Yea it annoys me man, and no I won't switch Horde just for that because it beats the whole purpose of Void elves even being in the Alliance. If they are not appealing enough for us to play them you might as well take them back in the Horde cause I'm really sick and tired of blue and purple hair. Point made.

look very similar


it's obvious that the VOID elves have VOID tentacle customization.

[Eleann]

look very similar


it's obvious that the VOID elves have VOID tentacle customization.

They look very similar for who? For those who just want black hair mate? I'm not interested in black hair. They're not even black actually, although that does not concern me. For those who would just be content with black hair: You are damaging the high elf cause and the requests of many void elf and high elf fans. Stop compromising and encouraging limited additions to Void elves, or limiting them to very niche themes. From now on I will openly state my discontent to those who repeat they are okay with just black hair on void elves. No, black hair only is not ok. Black hair color in addition to white and blonde is ok, and that is what should be suggested. Void elves are not meant to be goth only, they are meant to have some voidy customization (not only) and be versatile. Limiting them to just blue, purple and black hair would be extremely boring and depressing and I know for sure I will either just play a different race in the Alliance if this continues, or Horde, or another game. But I will not stay and be depressed over a hair color, I would rather not play them at all.

[Ardenaso]

What kind of map is this? Is this suppose to be Warcraft 3?

if you know the Re-Reforged custom campaign, I'm suggesting a map based on Western Plaguelands for the Hearthglen chapter

[Rhlor]

They look very similar for who? For those who just want black hair mate? I'm not interested in black hair. They're not even black actually, although that does not concern me. For those who would just be content with black hair: You are damaging the high elf cause and the requests of many void elf and high elf fans. Stop compromising and encouraging limited additions to Void elves, or limiting them to very niche themes. From now on I will openly state my discontent to those who repeat they are okay with just black hair on void elves. No, black hair only is not ok. Black hair color in addition to white and blonde is ok, and that is what should be suggested. Void elves are not meant to be goth only, they are meant to have some voidy customization (not only) and be versatile. Limiting them to just blue, purple and black hair would be extremely boring and depressing and I know for sure I will either just play a different race in the Alliance if this continues, or Horde, or another game. But I will not stay and be depressed over a hair color, I would rather not play them at all.

I'm just saying that nowadays you can make void elves that are very similar to blood elves. that it is not true that there are not some customizations that make them look very similar actrually.

do you want to give the void elves blonde hair? that is a completely valid wish! it is more I support the green eyes in the void elves because the silvermoon scholar in telogrus have green eyes, even so, I think that the colors should remain different between those of the blood elves and void elves so that they are not totally a copy. and blood elves need more distinctive customizations regarding void elves as tattoos

[FlubberPuddy]

blood elves need more distinctive customizations regarding void elves as tattoos

I don't think there's ever going to be a point where Blood Elves get tattoos and Void Elves do not. I don't mind both parties getting them, but I don't think tattoos are a category that's going to be specific to one side.

Body Jewelry to Blood Elves for instance that makes sense as unique customization (and the other tiara/bracelets etc).

But it would not make sense for Void Elves to not get tattoos being that Alleria, their leader, has those options. Blood Elves can make themselves look like Lor'themar, their leader (blind eye/hairstyle and all).

So it'd be strange if Void Elves couldn't ever look like Alleria (braided hair/tattoos/feather accessories).

[Rhlor]

I don't think there's ever going to be a point where Blood Elves get tattoos and Void Elves do not. I don't mind both parties getting them, but I don't think tattoos are a category that's going to be specific to one side.

Body Jewelry to Blood Elves for instance that makes sense as unique customization (and the other tiara/bracelets etc).

But it would not make sense for Void Elves to not get tattoos being that Alleria, their leader, has those options. Blood Elves can make themselves look like Lor'themar, their leader (blind eye/hairstyle and all).

So it'd be strange if Void Elves couldn't ever look like Alleria (braided hair/tattoos/feather accessories).

I think the jewelry should be void elf customization, after all they were blood elves very recently

[Alanar]

.....HAHAHAHAH!!! HAHAHAHAHA he literally posted the only 2 hairstyles (one of them being BALD) that exist in the game that look same (almost) to Blood elves just to prove a point!! You do realize we have a ponytail with a tentacle hanging from it that looks like a dick? And our hair colors are just blues and purples? Yea it annoys me man, and no I won't switch Horde just for that because it beats the whole purpose of Void elves even being in the Alliance. If they are not appealing enough for us to play them you might as well take them back in the Horde cause I'm really sick and tired of blue and purple hair. Point made.

This made my day lol
It does look like a purple dick haha

Well not to be a dick(no pun intended) the easy awnser is just roll something else. Its not like are no other options..

The stopped doing custimization appearntly, do be happy you guys still got something and no you guys can keep them, I am still here waiting for a fourth skin tone for my nightborne.

All jokes aside, black and white should be the colors void elves need.

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I think the jewelry should be void elf customization, after all they were blood elves very recently

But blood elves got it already.. no way back now unless this is the new topic of discussion and we will find ourselves soon filled with oversexual fan art with void elf jewelry.

Maybe some coc.. I mean tentacle rings is something void elves can get?

[Rhlor]

This made my day lol
It does look like a purple dick haha

Well not to be a dick(no pun intended) the easy awnser is just roll something else. Its not like are no other options..

The stopped doing custimization appearntly, do be happy you guys still got something and no you guys can keep them, I am still here waiting for a fourth skin tone for my nightborne.

All jokes aside, black and white should be the colors void elves need.

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But blood elves got it already.. no way back now unless this is the new topic of discussion and we will find ourselves soon filled with oversexual fan art with void elf jewelry.

Maybe some coc.. I mean tentacle rings is something void elves can get?

If the void elves some day have tattoos for example I hope they are void tattoos.

It would also be great to see new void skins and tentacle beards!

[Alanar]

If the void elves some day have tattoos for example I hope they are void tattoos.

It would also be great to see new void skins and tentacle beards!

Holy shit, dangling tentacle beards in all shapes and sizes with co .. jewelry etc, I like it.

Dreanei nabs got nothing on those.

[shoc]

Holy shit, dangling tentacle beards in all shapes and sizes with co .. jewelry etc, I like it.

Dreanei nabs got nothing on those.

Just makes me wish that we got Void Krokul and Lightforged Elves instead.

[Varx]

So is this a void elf thread or high elf thread now?

Also black hair, blond hair, blue hair, a velf is a velf. Source: your velf racials lmao

[FossilFree]

So is this a void elf thread or high elf thread now?

Also black hair, blond hair, blue hair, a velf is a velf. Source: your velf racials lmao

Void Elves are High Elves, same with Blood Elves. So this is basically the Void/Blood/High Elf thread now.

[Varx]

Void Elves are High Elves, same with Blood Elves. So this is basically the Void/Blood/High Elf thread now.

So high elf = thalassian elf, cuz velves sure as hell aren't belves.

Also if blood elves are high elves why does this thread exist in the first place then?

[Kyriani]

So high elf = thalassian elf, cuz velves sure as hell aren't belves.

Also if blood elves are high elves why does this thread exist in the first place then?

This thread originally existed as the place for all things High Elf related to be discussed. It has evolved since the addition of Void Elves as the playable Thalassian race on the Alliance faction.

And not for nothing, prior to Nether-Prince Durzaan's trap, Magister Umbric and every elf in his entourage were Blood Elves. The fact that there are Silvermoon Scholars and High Elf Wayfarers in Telogrus implies that both Blood Elves and High Elves are joining the ranks of the Ren'dorei. Unfortunately Blizzard hasn't deigned to elaborate on just why and how they are becoming Void Elves. It'd be nice if they did give us those basic details.

In any case, there always seems to be some misunderstanding (sometimes intentional), about what someone means when they say "High Elf". Every Blood Elf is a High Elf in the sense that this is their race and they simply changed their name to honor their fallen kin, but not every High Elf renamed themselves a Blood Elf, nor joined the Horde. Typically in these discussions, when someone is talking about "High Elves" they are talking about those elves that refused to call themselves Blood Elves and also chose to remain part of the Alliance.

At the most basic level (race), all Thalassians are High Elves. The differentiation comes from political ideology, faction affiliation, and/or magical circumstances. It's best to use "Alliance High Elf" when you are talking about those High Elves that are part of the Alliance such as the Silver Covenant NPC's or the various High Elf NPC's in Stormwind. In the most basic sense, these are not playable currently, but due to their presence in Telogrus implying that High Elf Wayfarers are joining the Ren'dorei, it's not unfair to say that at least some Void Elves literally are Alliance High Elves. By the same token it's also not unfair to say that at least some Void Elves are Blood Elves, as implied by the presence of Silvermoon Scholars in Telogrus, and the fact that Umbric and his entourage originated as Blood Elves.

Obviously, the playable Horde Blood Elves, and NPC Alliance High Elves are physiologically and magically the same race. Their distinction from each other comes from political ideology and faction affiliation. The playable Alliance Void Elves can share political ideology with either Blood or High (though I would posit that their ideology would have to shift somewhat to "meet in the middle" with their fellows to sustain harmony), but their faction affiliation is clearly Alliance, and their magical circumstances are uniquely tied to the void.

But in the words of game director Ion Hazikostas:

Blood Elves are pretty much High Elves... Void Elves are also pretty much another flavor of High Elves

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BsxB4NJIBs

[Varx]

This thread originally existed as the place for all things High Elf related to be discussed. It has evolved since the addition of Void Elves as the playable Thalassian race on the Alliance faction.

And not for nothing, prior to Nether-Prince Durzaan's trap, Magister Umbric and every elf in his entourage were Blood Elves. The fact that there are Silvermoon Scholars and High Elf Wayfarers in Telogrus implies that both Blood Elves and High Elves are joining the ranks of the Ren'dorei. Unfortunately Blizzard hasn't deigned to elaborate on just why and how they are becoming Void Elves. It'd be nice if they did give us those basic details.

In any case, there always seems to be some misunderstanding (sometimes intentional), about what someone means when they say "High Elf". Every Blood Elf is a High Elf in the sense that this is their race and they simply changed their name to honor their fallen kin, but not every High Elf renamed themselves a Blood Elf, nor joined the Horde. Typically in these discussions, when someone is talking about "High Elves" they are talking about those elves that refused to call themselves Blood Elves and also chose to remain part of the Alliance.

At the most basic level (race), all Thalassians are High Elves. The differentiation comes from political ideology, faction affiliation, and/or magical circumstances. It's best to use "Alliance High Elf" when you are talking about those High Elves that are part of the Alliance such as the Silver Covenant NPC's or the various High Elf NPC's in Stormwind. In the most basic sense, these are not playable currently, but due to their presence in Telogrus implying that High Elf Wayfarers are joining the Ren'dorei, it's not unfair to say that at least some Void Elves literally are Alliance High Elves. By the same token it's also not unfair to say that at least some Void Elves are Blood Elves, as implied by the presence of Silvermoon Scholars in Telogrus, and the fact that Umbric and his entourage originated as Blood Elves.

Obviously, the playable Horde Blood Elves, and NPC Alliance High Elves are physiologically and magically the same race. Their distinction from each other comes from political ideology and faction affiliation. The playable Alliance Void Elves can share political ideology with either Blood or High (though I would posit that their ideology would have to shift somewhat to "meet in the middle" with their fellows to sustain harmony), but their faction affiliation is clearly Alliance, and their magical circumstances are uniquely tied to the void.

But in the words of game director Ion Hazikostas:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BsxB4NJIBs

Well if velves are a different flavor, why ask for the same hair colors that belves have. That would pretty much complete remove the already blurry line of distinction between the two.

If belves get more options then they should highlight the VOID in Void elf not more normal options.

[PsychoSe7eN]

If you want to play high elf, go play WC3R.

High Elves are no longer welcomed in the World.....


Of Warcraft

[Kyriani]

Well if velves are a different flavor, why ask for the same hair colors that belves have. That would pretty much complete remove the already blurry line of distinction between the two.

If belves get more options then they should highlight the VOID in Void elf not more normal options.

Well for me personally, I want black hair, specifically because my character concept always called for it, but also because it never made sense to me that void elves didn't have black as a hair color option (and white too for that matter).

For other people, particularly those that have been campaigning for playable alliance high elves, void elves were a perversion of that request. Basically a corrupt-a-wish. No one ever asked for void elves to be a playable option because void elves didn't exist prior to allied races being added to the game (and more specifically don't exist until their unlock scenario), whereas the highmountain, nightborne, and lightforged did, and had foundational elements laid prior to allied races ever being a thing.

Since Blizzard added the blue eyes and broad range of skin options to void elves, and billed these as "high elf customization", the only thing left to finish the high elf aesthetic is a few natural hair color options. This is asked for by those seeking playable alliance high elves and also by those who just want a bigger range of colors for their their hair. The current hair palette is very "one-note" and more variety is desirable by many. Since alliance high elves as their own race is unlikely to ever happen since void elves exist and have high elf customization options, those seeking alliance high elves are simply trying to finish that aesthetic. And other players, such as myself, simply want more variety (and specifically black in my case).

Like it or not, Blizz basically set a precedent that high elf customization options are part of the void elf package when they added "high elf customization" to void elves, and asking for the last bit to finish the aesthetic is well within reason (and I agree with this). Blizzard also doesn't have to copy and paste all the blood elf hairstyles and colors to fulfill that request either. If Blizzard wants to add more hairstyles, they can make new ones or simply port styles from other alliance races. If Blizzard wants to make certain the void aesthetic is always an option they can turn the hair tentacles into a toggle like the night elf hair vines so that all void elf hairstyles can have tentacles if the player wants them to. And as for hair colors Blizzard could add a few token colors in the human range to basically fulfill the request.

This picture is one I like to reference. It adds options, both for the void aesthetic, and options that can also fulfill the high elf aesthetic, all without copying stuff from blood elves: