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    Quote Originally Posted by MyWholeLifeIsThunder View Post
    I'm content there's an answer, but Ion sure sounds like he isn't concerned much by the lore.

    What about the Silver Covenant tho? BfA plot twist, we will be revealed they are mostly half elves.
    everything he said was right about lore

    silver covenant are not a big group or elves, never were, they are just a few elves with veressa, a terrorist squad way small than void elves, apart from th wtlk, they just appear as token to another alliance organization, like the night elves and the kirin tor

    people projected too much their headcanon on then, to look like they are a big thing

    they have nothing of a playable race could have, void elves have

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenJesus View Post
    Ok.. but they don't do that anymore... so... What is the difference between High elves and Blood elves now? High elves are vegans so they deserve to be an allied race?
    they also view the alliance as their rightful allies and shit. i think it's stupid, the alliance has done nothing but betray quel'thalas, but they believe it so it makes them different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evilfish View Post
    Please. I've been around, you know? I know all of you and I know you, the royal you and especially YOU don't give a shit about anything else aside your high elves, if Ion had said you'd get High Elves tomorrow you'd be kissing his feet. So again, please, spare me the BS.

    Player feedback is not being ignored, idiotic demands are being ignored. What you think I enjoyed losing my belf racial? But me whining about it and them ignoring me is not ignoring player feedback it's just ignoring idiocy. Much like what's happening with Helfs.
    No still doubting him..alot but be glad he finally paid attention

    I would still be harping on poor class design

    Still saying we need more variety and skills period not just leveling

    Still saying the HoA and Azerote gear feels like a strange and possibly nad move until they show us ktherwise.

    I don't think he is a good game designer and he has to prove ge can listen to players.

    Hell compare him to Yoshi P of FFXIV he listens and keeps track of both the world and lore. If players have an issue he directly reploes to it.

    THAT is a trustworthy lead game dev. Not ion

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    Quote Originally Posted by lightspark View Post
    Half elf allied race when?
    I don't think Anti High Elf posters would have a problem with that but I am not sure if that would be seen as a plus or a negative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syegfryed View Post
    or you can just create a new background and lore to your character? this is a rpg too, rp

    do you think every orc player play like he eat rocks?



    said no one ever
    Said who i quoted and many others here mentioning legolas

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magnagarde View Post
    Don't talk down on humans. Or orcs. Know your two master races and adapt.
    humans are dogshit, the absolute almost bottom of the barrel scum of this universe that do nothing but lord over and betray their allies. literally only forsaken are worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sorrior View Post
    Ok void elves same model fully armored can you tell them apart?
    And again, you're trying to make an argument with the fact that they have the same skeleton. All armor, yeah nelf and nb, velf and be, look the same but that's not the point is it? it is not ONLY the posture. It's about having meaningful distinctiveness that makes players feel they are on a faction. When someone sees a void elf, they know they have tentacles and pale skin. When someone sees a nightborne, they are not the nature-aligned elves but they are arcane-infused.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrashi View Post
    No, ignoring someones fanfiction (and a crappy one while at it) is not "clear mistake".
    Annd you ignore every other non HE point i make i notice.

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    LMAO nobody on this earth sees a Nightborne and says "NIGHT ELF!!"

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    Ion: "If you are Alliance and want to be an elf, the Horde is there for you."

    *Whistles innocently and leaves to the bunker until everything has calmed down.*

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheEaterofSouls View Post
    Could always ask for blue eyed blood elves. i kinda want that to be a thing now.
    That's what I've been saying for years AND this thread! I got half of what I wanted - getting the choice of golden eyes.

    Problem is that I fear people will still make "High Elves for Alliance" threads even if that would happen... x_x
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    Quote Originally Posted by Archmage VoidElf4Life View Post
    There isn't a huge number of High Elves: At least High Elves have a full covenant. Can't say the same about Void Elves.
    silver covenant never had big numbers

    Blurring the lines between factions: Pandarens. Void Elves. Nightborne. In the end, when geared, they look the same. That already blurred the lines between factions.
    except pandarens are a exception, and the other didn't blurr the factions cause they are different in both models and fantasy

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    Honestly, the worst part of his answer is the whole "adding high elves would compromise Horde identity" argument not because I disagree with that but because of the truth of it. The Horde identity basically is blood elf/undead at this point which makes me kinda sad as an orc/troll/tauren/goblin lover. I much prefer the Horde where blood elves and undead were an alliance of convenience and outliers.

    It's funny though because when they were added I'll never forget how much a lot Horde players hated them and thought adding blood elves destroyed the identity of the Horde. I guess they were right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sorrior View Post
    Said who i quoted and many others here mentioning legolas
    sure we will believe that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doffen View Post
    Oh yeah, it wasn't for you, but for the High Elves fans Void Elf is a nice compromise imo.

    It's my Alliance main for BfA yes, but my main will be and is the avatar So yeah, lets nuke those Void Elves together right
    Mine is a Night Elf Demon Hunter. I think to fully enjoy BFA you will need one Horde and one Alliance character.

    But I do reserve a particular ire towards Void Elves (in an RP sense), they represent everything that Silvermoon stands against. The Alliance, the void and messing with forbidden magic (hey I like Blood/High Elves but they're massive hypocrites).

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    Quote Originally Posted by EbaumsTipster View Post
    LMAO nobody on this earth sees a Nightborne and says "NIGHT ELF!!"
    this. the false equivilancies are hilarious

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    I think blizz should say that the Silver Covenant no longer exist and that nearly all of them became Void Elf (As we already know some Void Elf are ex High Elf)
    Then Kill Vereesa and those High Elves thread will die.

    The next High Elves or Blood Elfes will be on Alliance side is probably war4, when this race will return to its original faction

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syegfryed View Post
    ideology is a non visual thing, you can just say your void elf is a silver covenant elf, or any high elf human boot licker

    thats not matter at all
    How when almost everything about them goes against what we know of HE? Be a FORMER HE yeah sure. But their aesthetic and style are definitely more BE then high elf..just more purple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Linkedblade View Post
    There are only three living half elves. Galadin, Giramar and Arator.
    That's why it would be a plot twist dude.

    It also explains how can High Elves "not have an organization of their own" and the Silver Covenant literal existence. *starts drawing in the wall* IT WORKS!

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    Quote Originally Posted by derpkitteh View Post
    no, ideology does matter a lot. lore is important, my dude.

    ideology is the root of wars and strife in the real world and every fantasy world. it's vastly important.
    not in the way you think off

    the high elf ideology can be void elf ideology

    because high elf ideology s basically "im alliance not horde

    again, its a RPG create your own lore

    people are not ok with maghar orcs coming from draenor, what they will do? say their orcs come from outland, done and done.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sorrior View Post
    But their aesthetic and style are definitely more BE then high elf..just more purple.
    the HE style and aesthetic is the same of BE anyway, like i said non issue

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obelisk Kai View Post
    So for THOSE particular players, and only those, I have schadenfreude. And I am entitled to that. Is it childish? Yes, I acknowledge it is, but I am still Human, and I cannot change how I am experiencing those emotions. That will in time pass, schadenfreude is not what is going to give me joy in the longterm.
    In all honesty, you've never been childish about this. You are simply persistant and theres a handful of people on either side that are the same way. Some would say you're obsessed with it, but then again, this whole forum is a ton of people arguing about a fictional universe and that makes them no better than anyone else doing the same.

    I don't like the fact that there's elves and humans on the Horde, but I've since long started to play along with it because quite frankly there's no way blood elves or the undead are ever going to be removed from the Horde. The Nightborne were a huge disappointment to me, but the Mag'har and the Zandalari have pulled the whole deal to where it should be in my opinion.

    If so many of us have learned to play with elves on the Horde, then these people can learn to deal with no oldschool high elves on their side. If they want to discuss high elves even now and are hopeful for them past BfA, this whole wheel is going to spin even more as the taunting back and forth will increase in magnitude.
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