1. #23961
    I admire all those who joined the Ren'dorei, whether they are biologically infused with the Void or not. These Thalassian are so dedicated to the salvation of their people that they would go as far as to dabble in a dark and ancient magic that is extremely malevolent. There's nothing the Ren'dorei wouldn't do for their homeland.

  2. #23962
    Quote Originally Posted by Varodoc View Post
    I admire all those who joined the Ren'dorei, whether they are biologically infused with the Void or not. These Thalassian are so dedicated to the salvation of their people that they would go as far as to dabble in a dark and ancient magic that is extremely malevolent. There's nothing the Ren'dorei wouldn't do for their homeland.
    or want more power

  3. #23963
    Quote Originally Posted by Rhlor View Post
    or want more power
    If this is what you think the Ren'dorei seek, you haven't been paying any kind of attention at all.

    There is one single definitive word that can describe the Ren'dorei: Altruism. The Ren'dorei seek nothing more than to master the Void in the defence of Quel'Thalas and Azeroth. All their struggles and actions are done with the single purpose of protecting others. No matter the price.

  4. #23964
    Quote Originally Posted by Varodoc View Post
    If this is what you think the Ren'dorei seek, you haven't been paying any kind of attention at all.

    There is one single definitive word that can describe the Ren'dorei: Altruism. The Ren'dorei seek nothing more than to master the Void in the defence of Quel'Thalas and Azeroth. All their struggles and actions are done with the single purpose of protecting others. No matter the price.
    I see void elves to serve nzoth and the void

  5. #23965
    Quote Originally Posted by Rhlor View Post
    I see void elves to serve nzoth and the void
    What you are saying is foolish, it's like saying that the Ebon Blade would serve Arthas.

    Some might succumb to the whispers (although thus far none has), but they would never WILLINGLY serve the Void. They despise the Void and seek to turn the enemy's own weapon against them. For the sake of Azeroth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhlor View Post
    I still love how this was meant to meme on Alliance HE fans and they've now since gotten 95% of what was asked for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The-Shan View Post
    buddy skips over my point because he knows hes wrong and keeps arguing, theres definitely some special kind of energy there.
    Definitely special for sure.

  7. #23967
    Quote Originally Posted by Rhlor View Post
    I see void elves to serve nzoth and the void
    In that logic, blood elves serve Burning Legion. I saw them to do so.

    BTW just to clarify things, void elves you saw in service of N'zoth were part of his Horrific Visions, which were not true... those were just N'zoths imaginations.

  8. #23968
    Quote Originally Posted by Varodoc View Post
    What you are saying is foolish, it's like saying that the Ebon Blade would serve Arthas.

    Some might succumb to the whispers (although thus far none has), but they would never WILLINGLY serve the Void. They despise the Void and seek to turn the enemy's own weapon against them. For the sake of Azeroth.
    Sleepless Voidseeker
    https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Sleepless_Voidseeker

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaedan View Post
    In that logic, blood elves serve Burning Legion. I saw them to do so.

    BTW just to clarify things, void elves you saw in service of N'zoth were part of his Horrific Visions, which were not true... those were just N'zoths imaginations.
    I kill them in real azeroth
    https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Sleepless_Voidseeker

  9. #23969
    Quote Originally Posted by Rhlor View Post
    You would have to prove that these are corrupted Ren'dorei, and not say corrupted Silver Covenant rangers or Farstrider rangers simply using the Void elf model.

  10. #23970
    Quote Originally Posted by Geisl View Post
    I still love how this was meant to meme on Alliance HE fans and they've now since gotten 95% of what was asked for.

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    Definitely special for sure.
    green eyes man!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varodoc View Post
    You would have to prove that these are corrupted Ren'dorei, and not say corrupted Silver Covenant rangers or Farstrider rangers simply using the Void elf model.
    they are mage and the title are VOID SEKEER no other thalassian are voids sekeers

  11. #23971
    Quote Originally Posted by Rhlor View Post
    green eyes man!!!

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    they are mage and the title are VOID SEKEER no other thalassian are voids sekeers
    Okay, you would have to prove that they are Ren'dorei seekers and not Sin'dorei seekers. Blood elf shadow priest is playable after all.

  12. #23972
    Quote Originally Posted by Rhlor View Post
    Actually, we've seen way more blood elves serving N'zoth. If you look at his followers, they sprout from among ALL races of Azeroth (even Nightborne), so these 3 mobs in Karazhan catacombs make up so little percentage of N'zoths Army, that you can hardly make any solid conclusions of it.

    So... Using your logic, blood elves serve N'zoth. And Burning Legion. And Scourge (which means Jailer). What a horrible race.

  13. #23973
    Quote Originally Posted by Varodoc View Post
    Okay, you would have to prove that they are Ren'dorei seekers and not Sin'dorei seekers. Blood elf shadow priest is playable after all.
    gameplay=/=lore

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaedan View Post
    Actually, we've seen way more blood elves serving N'zoth. If you look at his followers, they sprout from among ALL races of Azeroth (even Nightborne), so these 3 mobs in Karazhan catacombs make up so little percentage of N'zoths Army, that you can hardly make any solid conclusions of it.

    So... Using your logic, blood elves serve N'zoth. And Burning Legion. And Scourge (which means Jailer). What a horrible race.
    of course there are blood elves from non-playable factions that joined the villain, such as humans, orcs, night elves and many others.
    the point is that Varodoc said that no void elf joined the forces of nzoth which is not true there is a non-playable faction of void elves in the service of nzoth. I do not use any logic I present facts. If someone says "no void elf would join Nozth" I say that is not true
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  14. #23974
    Quote Originally Posted by Necrosaro123 View Post
    Those are High Elves Wayfarer, not...."Void elves".

    Your "Void Elves" have racials related to the void, not to elven racials like the Blood Elves. But if you are ok with that its up to you. I want a High elf race, with original racials + looks of a High Elf....not to change the "Void Elves" into "High Elves".

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    Under Alleria's guidance, as well as the tutelage and instruction of her own teacher, Locus-Walker, the void elves made strides in mastering their nature. They claimed Telogrus as their base of operations, which has also been visited by blood elf Silvermoon Scholars and high elf wayfarers curious to learn more about the Void from their transformed kin.

    The void elves are not recruiting, necessarily, but they are open to those who share similar interests. Their research has attracted other elves to Telogrus, with both Silvermoon scholars and high elven wayfarers arriving to study the ways of the Void. They are trying to find out if they can reproduce the original process that transformed the void elves
    Source: https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Void_elf
    How long can you keep this up? Furthermore, how long can you keep up proving yourself wrong on everyone else's behalf?

  15. #23975
    Quote Originally Posted by Rhlor View Post
    gameplay=/=lore

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    of course there are blood elves from non-playable factions that joined the villain, such as humans, orcs, night elves and many others.
    the point is that Varodoc said that no void elf joined the forces of nzoth which is not true there is a non-playable faction of void elves in the service of nzoth. I do not use any logic I present facts. If someone says "no void elf would join Nozth" I say that is not true
    Not to agree with Varodoc too much but yeah, we don't really HAVE conformation those are Void Elves. It is very likely, but not confirmed, specially since the Void Elf model has already been used to portray a void infused elf that is not necessarily a "Void Elf", when Xal'atath takes over the body of the High Elf Inanas. Let alone the fact that we have also seen NPC skins on BE's be used to portray Warlocks too deep on the Fel juice.

    So are they meant to be corrupted VE's, or just random elves that got too into the void? We don't know for sure.

  16. #23976
    Quote Originally Posted by Necrosaro123 View Post
    What is wrong with the lore i put there? Is not valid or something? Or you cant prove that the lore is wrong.... Otherwise, request the lore to be change to what you believe is right, because there is a reason why is there. Or did you read something else in the game that is not there?
    It's mostly your inability to understand that we are talking about what could be/happen in the future and are unable to see beyond what the lore says right on this moment.

    Which is bonkers, because the lore is always evolving. Like how did you even survive the expanded skin tones and high elf eye colors on Void Elves is beyond me.

  17. #23977
    Since I have no interest joining in on this talking to a wall nonsense, I'll instead share some lovely mock ups I found online! I'm hoping that we'll have this option come 10.0.



  18. #23978
    Quote Originally Posted by Kyriani View Post
    Since I have no interest joining in on this talking to a wall nonsense, I'll instead share some lovely mock ups I found online! I'm hoping that we'll have this option come 10.0.


    Ohh that shade of blonde is *perfect* It looks slightly more magenta and doesn't look like any of the BE colors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Necrosaro123 View Post
    Oh, you mean the "Blood elf" skin tones and blue eye colors from the "Sunwell" feeding? as mention in the Quel'Delar main story. (Not High Elves)

    Because if you "put it" like that, it means that now the Blood elves are now the new "High elves" and they belong to the Horde. (Blue eyes, Golden hair elves).

    Are you playing the game?
    Lol, for someone that keeps screaming "BUT THE LORE" please do tell me where is stated that the Sunwell feeding is giving the Blood Elves blue eyes. Thing is, we don't have a solid explanation as to why Blood Elves can choose blue eyes now. Yet that's irrelevant to the point. I simply referred to them as "High Elf eye colors" because the reveal post literally mentions them as a way to give VE and BE a bit of High Elf fantasy.

    The question remains the same, how did you were able to accept Void Elves getting new eye colors and skin tones? You keep saying VE's are ONLY of that original accident, so then how do you explain that almost 2 years later they got new options? How does that fit with your idea that the Lore is immutable?

    Because come on, answer the question being made instead of changing the subject.

  19. #23979
    Quote Originally Posted by MyWholeLifeIsThunder View Post
    Not to agree with Varodoc too much but yeah, we don't really HAVE conformation those are Void Elves. It is very likely, but not confirmed, specially since the Void Elf model has already been used to portray a void infused elf that is not necessarily a "Void Elf", when Xal'atath takes over the body of the High Elf Inanas. Let alone the fact that we have also seen NPC skins on BE's be used to portray Warlocks too deep on the Fel juice.

    So are they meant to be corrupted VE's, or just random elves that got too into the void? We don't know for sure.
    and why don't we see void humans? the reality is that blizzard never makes a very complicated plot for this type of thing randomly race as enemies to kill and that's it. those are void elves because they are meant to represent that race because blizzard decided so because if they wanted them to represent another race they would have used that race in the first place.

  20. #23980
    Quote Originally Posted by Rhlor View Post
    and why don't we see void humans? the reality is that blizzard never makes a very complicated plot for this type of thing randomly race as enemies to kill and that's it. those are void elves because they are meant to represent that race because blizzard decided so because if they wanted them to represent another race they would have used that race in the first place.
    But we have also seen pretty much every race working for the Old Gods and the Void, the difference? Thalassians are the only race with an *specific* void themed appearance. The whole question as to "why don't we see void humans then" is kinda moot when a void human texture just doesn't exist.

    And again, I am not saying that they aren't Void elves, I'm just saying we can't confirm it either way, because it can simply be using the VE model to portray an elf infused by Void energy, such as Inanas' body. You can't say "they are void elves because they use the model" when we literally have precedent otherwise. Could be, could be not.

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