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    Quote Originally Posted by BaumanKing View Post
    No human potential in my faction, pls. I would rather take mok'nathal or forest trolls from Revantusk tribe for complete WC2 feel. San'layn or straight back forsaken would be fine tho.
    people also hated Blood Elves when they first joined Horde but now they're the most popular race; you'll be fine
    The Alliance gets the Horde's most popular race. The Horde should get the Alliance's most popular race in return. Alteraci Humans for the Horde!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaedan View Post
    It is definitely unexpected, but it's good that these orange/red hair actually goes well into the void/old god theme and in the same time, you can use them for regular uncorrupted high elf too. I'm glad we got blonde too, but 3 shades feels kind of over the top considering we still miss pure white and black.

    I'm not gonna complain, but I'd happily trade two blonde tones for white and black... But I guess we will see some more options in future patches.
    Basically. There are nice colors, but yeah, they don't offer a lot of variety. Hopefully we will be seeing more colors in the future, specifically, Void themed ones, such as Alleria's white hair color.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FossilFree View Post
    I suppose we could always RP Alteraci humans if we got some cross faction stuff going on. Personally, I'd like to see warmode-on being antagonistic factions and warmode-off being at least neutral with each other.

    Forest trolls I think could be a second theme for Darkspear trolls, Mok'nathal a second theme for Orgrimmar orcs, and San'layn either for Blood Elves or Forsaken (arguments could be made for either really). After High Elves on Void Elves, and Wildhammers on Bronzebeards, it would make sense to me for every race to get a second theme.
    If different body types were to ever become a thing in customization, yeah! But races like Forest Trolls and Mok'nathal just look different enough to the point they'd have to be Allied Races.

    But yeah, my issues about Alteraci humans are not that I don't want humans in the Horde -for example I'd love the Fogsail Bucaneers on the Horde- but more so than the Alteraci themselves just haven't been a thing since, oof, Warcraft 2? With how forgotten they have become, I'd kinda prefer if Alterac was rebuilt as a Forsaken city. Actually, I'd like if it became Calia's center of operations given her -if tenuous- connection with that realm.

    Who knows, maybe she starts making the remaining Syndycate into fleshy undead like her, so we get roundabout humans lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flade View Post
    Lmao people keep bringing this up, but they seemingly forget that the Horde dragged blood elves into two pointless, loosing wars (and civil wars that follow), basically blackmailed them to send more resources to Northred even though they had and probably still have small and dwindling population, not to mention joining with undead, orcs and TROLLS?

    If it wasnt for ingame constraints belfs would've left long ago, or even didnt join in the first place. (hate bc writing, simple as).
    You should ask the Blood Elves about the amazing history they have with Trolls and Orcs, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edward Wu View Post
    No, they shouldn't. The Horde does not need more races that will skew the faction imbalance even more.

    Horde players just do not get it. There's no equivalence here because you've been winning hard for years. The Alliance needs SOMETHING over you to reset the imbalance and improve the health of the game.

    I've never thought this line was more appropriate here but... check your fucking privilege.
    I'm still waiting for the Alliance to get something equivalent to an extra posture option for Orcs.

    Oh wait, I'm not, because I can accept that that option makes the most sense for Orcs and argued that it should've been there a long time ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yarathir View Post
    You should ask the Blood Elves about the amazing history they have with Trolls and Orcs, too.

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    I'm still waiting for the Alliance to get something equivalent to an extra posture option for Orcs.

    Oh wait, I'm not, because I can accept that that option makes the most sense for Orcs and argued that it should've been there a long time ago.
    A human male that doesn't look so bulky would be nice
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    I'd much rather get straight posture Forsaken than red humans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BaumanKing View Post
    Besides Garithos has nothing to do with humans of Stormwind. He was lordaeronian and most of them are part of the Horde now.
    Exactly this, Alliance of Lordaeron is long gone.

    Quote Originally Posted by Yarathir View Post
    You should ask the Blood Elves about the amazing history they have with Trolls and Orcs, too.
    Don't worry, i know aaaaall about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pheraz View Post
    A human male that doesn't look so bulky would be nice
    I miss Shadowlands beta. There was a face in there that technically belonged to the new "asian" options, but it worked well as a fairly smooth, young-looking (i.e. non-cro-magnon) white face.

    Then they ruined it in the last build and now it always looks shocked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaedan View Post
    Yes and no. Hairstyles still remain the same. You just add another layer of customization to it. Just like night elves have vines/leaves and draenei have jewelery. There will still be no fresh new hairstyles.

    I think this will favor mostly female hairstyles, most of them look really good without tentacles. Male hairstyles on the other hand are in more need of work, but eventually, it still opens up like 2 new hairstyles available for my character.

    I mean it's great change indeed, but I wouldn't say it provides whole new set of hairstyles. Most of the hairstyles will not look vastly different without tentacles, especially male hairstyles. Now give us option to use braids in place of tentacles too. I can imagine some of these hairstyles being used for blood elves with braid options then as well (tentacles does not make much sense for them).
    It is a great change that gives many more customization options

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flade View Post
    Exactly this, Alliance of Lordaeron is long gone.



    Don't worry, i know aaaaall about it.
    No? The alliance of Lordaeron was literally just reforged in the modern day alliance

    Why do you think the PvP symbol next to your portrait is the Lordaeron crest and every sky breaker has Lordaeron sigils on them?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Candy Cough View Post
    No? The alliance of Lordaeron was literally just reforged in the modern day alliance

    Why do you think the PvP symbol next to your portrait is the Lordaeron crest and every sky breaker has Lordaeron sigils on them?
    It's more of a successor alliance than true alliance of lordaeron.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flade View Post
    It's more of a successor alliance than true alliance of lordaeron.
    Soooo the same
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    Quote Originally Posted by Candy Cough View Post
    Soooo the same
    No. /10chars

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yarathir View Post
    High Elves have been a part of the Alliance since 5ever, though. Also what does Garithos have to do with it? Best to just cope soon.
    So? So has the Stonemaul clan, but they aren't playable

    Because Garithos was Alliance and used the blood elves as cannon fodder? Lor'themar literally says it in MoP "When will they see that the Horde exists BECAUSE of the Alliance? Because of their prejudice and their bigotry!?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by MyWholeLifeIsThunder View Post
    I admit I laughed.

    But yeah, what the alliance needs is for Raid Grouping to become factionless. It doesn't matter what you give the Horde or Alliance at this point, the imbalance is just insurmountable.
    there is no faction imbalance, the alliance and the horde have the same population.
    Horde players are more hardcore and Alliance players are more RP. but their populations are equal.
    It's as if I complained that there is not enough RP in the horde

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    Quote Originally Posted by MyWholeLifeIsThunder View Post
    l (and even San'layn, with their very recent participation on the 4th War and strong connection to the Blood Elves)

    So yeah, to the point I would prefer so many other races before, I'd rather have neutral Alteraci mmm.
    You mean when they killed and ate the horde soldiers and planned to use the horde as cattle?
    They have the same connection to the void elves, but at least the void elves use necromancy.

    alterac humans for the horde, sanlayn for the alliance! (apparently many alliance players want playable sanlayn that have them in their faction)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yarathir View Post
    I miss Shadowlands beta. There was a face in there that technically belonged to the new "asian" options, but it worked well as a fairly smooth, young-looking (i.e. non-cro-magnon) white face.

    Then they ruined it in the last build and now it always looks shocked.
    I think this is the face you're referring to. I do agree it would be nice if we had more face options like being able to narrow the eyes a bit so they don't look so surprised. I use this face now on one of my characters and found that the "sharp" or "natural" eyebrow selections do help mitigate the "surprised" look somewhat.


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    My problem are not the faces. I think they did well.
    But the bulky body shape. Like.. one of 10 human males has this body shape. It looks so dump to me. I would really like a more agile one
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pheraz View Post
    My problem are not the faces. I think they did well.
    But the bulky body shape. Like.. one of 10 human males has this body shape. It looks so dump to me. I would really like a more agile one
    I agree with you that the stormwind human model is far too bulky. I'd love for us to get body shape options for all races. I don't expect we'll ever see sliders in WoW, but maybe if there was an option to select which size model we use from a small number via a drop down menu. Like a leaner version of the current Human model, the Human model we have now, and an option to use the Kul Tiran "big boy" model. I'd like the same choices for the Kul Tirans as well.
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    This is the first time I've dropped into this thread since before helves were officially added. The discussion here now is pretty nice, I might actually participate now and again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyriani View Post
    I agree with you that the stormwind human model is far too bulky. I'd love for us to get body shape options for all races. I don't expect we'll ever see sliders in WoW, but maybe if there was an option to select which size model we use from a small number via a drop down menu. Like a leaner version of the current Human model, the Human model we have now, and an option to use the Kul Tiran "big boy" model. I'd like the same choices for the Kul Tirans as well.
    Yes that would be fantastic
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lilithvia View Post
    This is the first time I've dropped into this thread since before helves were officially added. The discussion here now is pretty nice, I might actually participate now and again.
    Welcome back! It made a turn for the better once the skin tones were announced. After that, a lot of the naysayers bounced. Not to say it's always civil, but the arguments are less frequent, less polarized and usually about a specific bit of lore or a specific option wanted or not wanted. Even then it very rarely devolves into pages long conflicts.

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