1. #24661
    Quote Originally Posted by Rhlor View Post
    and this is another reason why I don't want sanlayn! we have alliance players like ravenmoon who just want to destroy us, take away our racial identity, steal quelthalas from us, turn us into a homeless people and in turn give us cannibal undead no doubt to say "we deserve quelthalas because you are undead and we are alive" as happens with lordaeron
    I don't mind extra features, so long as things like "San'layn/Dark Ranger" are for RP purposes only.

    The San'layn have never actually engaged with the Sin'dorei of Silvermoon. The only ones who they have spoken to are:

    Sunreaver Blood Elves (neutral)
    Zandalari and Darkspear Trolls
    Night Elves
    Humans.

    They have very little that connects them to Quel'Thalas now.

    I just don't understand why Blood Elves need to change in order to accommodate the Alliance? I play Blood Elves, they are Horde. I don't care about the Alliance..
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  2. #24662
    Quote Originally Posted by Tanaria View Post
    Void Elves build their own void-city.
    While I don't see the void elves ever getting a whole city to call their own, I'd love to see a small fortress built in Telogrus as their base of operation rather than just a few tents. A floating fortress in the void as the Ren'dorei's home just seems cool to me.

  3. #24663
    Quote Originally Posted by Kyriani View Post
    While I don't see the void elves ever getting a whole city to call their own, I'd love to see a small fortress built in Telogrus as their base of operation rather than just a few tents. A floating fortress in the void as the Ren'dorei's home just seems cool to me.
    Is it their own style, or could it be something that is similar to 3 Tempest Keep dungeons, but done with far more Void, Arcane and void elf-like tapestries?

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    Alleria believes Quel'Thzlas is destined to rejoin the Alliance.
    Umbric wants to get Silvermoon back into the Alliance.
    Turalyon wants to reclaim former Alliance of Lordaeron holdings (hello Silvermoon!)

    Now the Alliance will have real High elves and thus the blood elves are officially a neutral race.

    If you really think Silvermoon will be updated for nothing except to please some Horde fans, then you're gonna be disappointed.

    Ofc the Alliance will return to Silvermoon one day.
    "If you want to play alongside High and Void elves, the Alliance is waiting for you"

  5. #24665
    Quote Originally Posted by Tanaria View Post
    And @Kyriani made the point that just because Void Elves have access to these, doesn't mean that Void Elf NPC's will be using these features (all barring Alleria.) These are RP tools that Blizzard are giving.
    The Void Elf NPC's, moving forward (again, with the exception of Alleria) will all likely have "Void" based features.
    Well, yes exactly. There is really no point for "uncorrupted" void elf, since Alliance has actual high elf NPCs since the launch of the classic and has high elf NPCs and factions reemerging during course of the game. Void elf NPCs will most likely be defined by void features and high elves will stay "vanilla" elves. The key difference is that Alliance players have now access to the "pure" elf aestetics and can RP as one. Sure, it will not be ideal because of racial tag and racial skills, but hey, I can settle with that.

    Plus, the Blood Elves have their big advantage of having Silvermoon and Quel'Thalas, which both need updating, like this:
    https://keyboardturner.artstation.com/projects/nQm0Re

    So, no - each race will get their due in time. Nothing will be ignored because "it's more Alliance/Horde."
    That looks really good. I wish we will see this revamp one day. I also wish alliance high elves and void elves will build a new home together somewhere. It's time they leave human cities and find their own place in the world.

  6. #24666
    Quote Originally Posted by elbleuet View Post
    Alleria believes Quel'Thzlas is destined to rejoin the Alliance.
    Umbric wants to get Silvermoon back into the Alliance.
    Turalyon wants to reclaim former Alliance of Lordaeron holdings (hello Silvermoon!)

    Now the Alliance will have real High elves and thus the blood elves are officially a neutral race.

    If you really think Silvermoon will be updated for nothing except to please some Horde fans, then you're gonna be disappointed.

    Ofc the Alliance will return to Silvermoon one day.
    Sin'dorei Fans > what a few Alliance fans want.

    Again, why should the Sin'dorei and the Horde be disregarded because of Alliance fans? They shouldn't.

    If you really think Blizzard will update Quel'Thalas for the Alliance, then you will not be happy. Of course, it's going to be updated for the Sin'dorei and the Horde. You'll just have to wait 20 years, for the second update where your faction might get it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaedan View Post
    Well, yes exactly. There is really no point for "uncorrupted" void elf, since Alliance has actual high elf NPCs since the launch of the classic and has high elf NPCs and factions reemerging during course of the game. Void elf NPCs will most likely be defined by void features and high elves will stay "vanilla" elves. The key difference is that Alliance players have now access to the "pure" elf aestetics and can RP as one. Sure, it will not be ideal because of racial tag and racial skills, but hey, I can settle with that.

    That looks really good. I wish we will see this revamp one day. I also wish alliance high elves and void elves will build a new home together somewhere. It's time they leave human cities and find their own place in the world.
    I don't mind Void Elves getting their city, so long as the Sin'dorei have Quel'Thalas, Silvermoon and the Sunwell.

  7. #24667
    Quote Originally Posted by elbleuet View Post
    Alleria believes Quel'Thzlas is destined to rejoin the Alliance.
    Umbric wants to get Silvermoon back into the Alliance.
    Turalyon wants to reclaim former Alliance of Lordaeron holdings (hello Silvermoon!)

    Now the Alliance will have real High elves and thus the blood elves are officially a neutral race.

    If you really think Silvermoon will be updated for nothing except to please some Horde fans, then you're gonna be disappointed.

    Ofc the Alliance will return to Silvermoon one day.
    We are the most played race of the horde

  8. #24668
    Quote Originally Posted by Tanaria View Post
    I don't mind Void Elves getting their city, so long as the Sin'dorei have Quel'Thalas, Silvermoon and the Sunwell.
    I think blood elves (rightfully) will remain in control of Silvermoon. If there ever will be a expansion focusing on conflict of Light and Void, Sunwell might play some part again in the storyline, since it's quite potent font of power, infused with Light. I'm not just sure if Blizzard will ever again pull some huge twists like Burning of Teldrassil, since they were not able to handle such world shaking events properly and got critized for that.

  9. #24669
    Quote Originally Posted by Tanaria View Post
    Is it their own style, or could it be something that is similar to 3 Tempest Keep dungeons, but done with far more Void, Arcane and void elf-like tapestries?
    I dont think it would be like tempest keep since that's specifically draenei architecture. I think it might be cool to make it something new in a style similar to the heritage armor. Lots of sweeping sharp points, golds, purples, and void crystal adornments.

    Basically turn this into a building :P


  10. #24670
    Quote Originally Posted by Vaedan View Post
    I think blood elves (rightfully) will remain in control of Silvermoon. If there ever will be a expansion focusing on conflict of Light and Void, Sunwell might play some part again in the storyline, since it's quite potent font of power, infused with Light. I'm not just sure if Blizzard will ever again pull some huge twists like Burning of Teldrassil, since they were not able to handle such world shaking events properly and got critized for that.
    They did get criticized for it, but I think that was a little too much. I don't like Golden's writing style, but the abuse she got was not called for and anyone involved should have been ashamed of themselves.

    A Light vs Void expansion could be something that involves the Sin'dorei and the Sunwell quite heavily, but we don't know whether that would involve the Elves losing the Sunwell again. Their are ways Blizzard could tell that story and make Silvermoon far more "Sunfury" like, with Blood and Fel Crystals dotted around and a strong focus on Arcane magic, but it's whether they'd want to retell that story again.

    I mean, to take on the Void would likely involve the Void Elves, but I reckon, their counterpart - the Shal'dorei, should be the Horde leaders, since Suramar had Void-Arcane Elementals dotted around the Nighthold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyriani View Post
    I dont think it would be like tempest keep since that's specifically draenei architecture. I think it might be cool to make it something new in a style similar to the heritage armor. Lots of sweeping sharp points, golds, purples, and void crystal adornments.

    Basically turn this into a building :P

    Ahh I see what you mean.

    I reckon it still needs to have that "element" of Thalassian though. Maybe some Elven Sanctums, but with purple, gold and blue colours instead of red, white and gold.

  11. #24671
    Quote Originally Posted by Tanaria View Post
    Ahh I see what you mean.

    I reckon it still needs to have that "element" of Thalassian though. Maybe some Elven Sanctums, but with purple, gold and blue colours instead of red, white and gold.
    I wouldn't object to doing it that way, but I think it might upset a lot of blood elf players if even more of "their stuff" was put to use for void elves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanaria View Post
    Sin'dorei Fans > what a few Alliance fans want.

    Again, why should the Sin'dorei and the Horde be disregarded because of Alliance fans? They shouldn't.

    If you really think Blizzard will update Quel'Thalas for the Alliance, then you will not be happy. Of course, it's going to be updated for the Sin'dorei and the Horde. You'll just have to wait 20 years, for the second update where your faction might get it.

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    I don't mind Void Elves getting their city, so long as the Sin'dorei have Quel'Thalas, Silvermoon and the Sunwell.
    You're aware that blood elves fans were proved wrong on all questions ?

    "You never be given the blood elf model"'
    "You will never be given fair skinned elves"
    "blood hairs will remain exclusive to the blood elves"
    "Alleria will be neutral"

    You guys lost on all fronts. So you saying me "You will never get blablabla" is kinda funny.

    Quel'Thalas will be updated for both faction, not for the Horde or the Alliance only because now the blood elves are a neutral race.
    "If you want to play alongside High and Void elves, the Alliance is waiting for you"

  13. #24673
    Quote Originally Posted by elbleuet View Post
    You're aware that blood elves fans were proved wrong on all questions ?

    "You never be given the blood elf model"'
    "You will never be given fair skinned elves"
    "blood hairs will remain exclusive to the blood elves"
    "Alleria will be neutral"

    You guys lost on all fronts. So you saying me "You will never get blablabla" is kinda funny.

    Quel'Thalas will be updated for both faction, not for the Horde or the Alliance only because now the blood elves are a neutral race.
    Blood Elves are a Horde race.

    Log in and play the game. It's your headcanon and longing wish for "Alliance Silvermoon" that has caused you to miss a few points in the lore.
    Blizzard knows the score with the Sin'dorei and know what the longing wish for the Sin'dorei fanbase is.

    It's hilarious that you think they will ignore the Sin'dorei fanbase in favor of a scattered few Alliance fans and their wish for everything in WoW to be solely, Alliance.

    And yes - Quel'Thalas will be updated for the playable Sin'dorei, where we might get to go and kill some radical velfs who set up shop in Deatholme. But the story will be told from the Horde.
    Last edited by Tanaria; 2021-08-29 at 06:40 PM.

  14. #24674
    Quote Originally Posted by Rhlor View Post
    in the first place the second most important noble family of quelthalas were the solanar! who held the position of grand magister and led the magister
    Okay, then show me the village and spire named after the Solanar family. I'll wait.
    in second place lorthemar was the second in command of the rangers and even alleria referred to him as lord theron
    When did this happen?

    Also Lor'themar was just second-in-command while it was a Windrunner (Lireesa, then Sylvanas) who led the Farstriders, enough said.

    By the way, just because A calls B "my lord" doesn't mean that B is A's superior. For instance, a King could refer to one of his subjects as "My Lord" as a form of courtesy. And we know that Theron was second-in-command to the Windrunners.

  15. #24675
    Quote Originally Posted by Varodoc View Post
    Okay, then show me the village and spire named after the Solanar family. I'll wait.

    When did this happen?

    Also Lor'themar was just second-in-command while it was a Windrunner (Lireesa, then Sylvanas) who led the Farstriders, enough said.

    By the way, just because A calls B "my lord" doesn't mean that B is A's superior. For instance, a King could refer to one of his subjects as "My Lord" as a form of courtesy. And we know that Theron was second-in-command to the Windrunners.
    Tides of darkness, lorthemar was the leader of the defenders in quelthalas agianst the horde. Turalyon and lorthemar make friends in this time.
    The dawnstar family have a spire and a village but they are not so important. The magister were always the most importants

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanaria View Post
    Blood Elves are a Horde race.

    Log in and play the game. It's your headcanon and longing wish for "Alliance Silvermoon" that has caused you to miss a few points in the lore.
    Blizzard knows the score with the Sin'dorei and know what the longing wish for the Sin'dorei fanbase is.

    It's hilarious that you think they will ignore the Sin'dorei fanbase in favor of a scattered few Alliance fans and their wish for everything in WoW to be solely, Alliance.

    And yes - Quel'Thalas will be updated for the playable Sin'dorei, where we might get to go and kill some radical velfs who set up shop in Deatholme. But the story will be told from the Horde.
    Last time I checked high elves are for everyone, there are Alliance blood elves in Telogrus Rift, and Quel'Thalas most renowned family stands with the Alliance.

    Can you play a dwarf in the Horde ?

    Blood elves story is over. You are now long eared humans adorable with everyone and seeking redemption in the light. Void elves story still isn't. They still have to return to the homeland they think is still theirs.

    And Deathholme is a scourge settlement. Not a Ren'dorei one.
    "If you want to play alongside High and Void elves, the Alliance is waiting for you"

  17. #24677
    Quote Originally Posted by elbleuet View Post
    Last time I checked high elves are for everyone, there are Alliance blood elves in Telogrus Rift, and Quel'Thalas most renowned family stands with the Alliance.

    Can you play a dwarf in the Horde ?

    Blood elves story is over. You are now long eared humans adorable with everyone and seeking redemption in the light. Void elves story still isn't. They still have to return to the homeland they think is still theirs.

    And Deathholme is a scourge settlement. Not a Ren'dorei one.
    Blood Elf story is over? Is that a fact from the top devs or is it your personal bias against the Sin'dorei because they are Horde? And the Windrunner family are now all exiled from Quel'Thalas. The remaining ones anyway.

    Theron and the Farstriders remember Sylvanas for the hero she was, not the villain she has become.

    Is Horde story over because it's the Horde?

    Void Elf story is over - Blizzard told me in 8.3.

    Your just obsessed over Quel'Thalas and still angry that it's Horde land. Quel'Thalas belongs to the Sin'dorei.
    The Sin'dorei are Quel'Thalas and Quel'Thalas is the Sin'dorei.

    You need to get over it - you'll get some pretty Night Elf stuff if Blizzard do a revamp. Make use of that, whilst the Horde will make use of Quel'Thalas.
    Last edited by Tanaria; 2021-08-29 at 07:42 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanaria View Post
    Blood Elf story is over? Is that a fact from the top devs or is it your personal bias against the Sin'dorei because they are Horde? And the Windrunner family are now all exiled from Quel'Thalas. The remaining ones anyway.

    Theron and the Farstriders remember Sylvanas for the hero she was, not the villain she has become.

    Is Horde story over because it's the Horde?

    Void Elf story is over - Blizzard told me in 8.3.

    Your just obsessed over Quel'Thalas and still angry that it's Horde land.
    I got my Helves... I mean... High elves fans won, so I'm pretty satisfied. Now indeed our sight is turned toward Silvermoon as it should be since it's our capital city too

    But to be honest, I prefer Quel'Danil lodge over Silvermoon ^-^
    "If you want to play alongside High and Void elves, the Alliance is waiting for you"

  19. #24679
    Quote Originally Posted by elbleuet View Post
    I got my Helves... I mean... High elves fans won, so I'm pretty satisfied. Now indeed our sight is turned toward Silvermoon as it should be since it's our capital city too

    But to be honest, I prefer Quel'Danil lodge over Silvermoon ^-^
    It's home to the Sin'dorei and Sin'dorei fans can and should expect it to be updated for the Horde and for the playable Sin'dorei. And it's also my favorite races' capital and on my preferred faction.

    Helfs continue to put Humans over homeland. They live with those consequences. Go and live with Highborne Night Elves if you want pretty elf stuff for the Alliance.

    Horde Elves can have the Nighthold and an updated Quel'Thalas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanaria View Post
    It's home to the Sin'dorei and Sin'dorei fans can and should expect it to be updated for the Horde and for the playable Sin'dorei.

    Helfs continue to put Humans over homeland. They live with those consequences. Go and live with Highborne Night Elves if you want pretty elf stuff for the Alliance.

    Horde Elves can have the Nighthold and an updated Quel'Thalas.
    Yeah yeah .. We shall see how Blizzard handles it
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