Official High Elf Discussion Megathread

[Yarathir]

Yeah as in looking like a vanilla draenie.

Love how my logic just aggravates you since you know im right.

Dude, can you make an LFD look EXACTLY liek a regular draenie, yes or no. It's a very simple question.

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[MyWholeLifeIsThunder]

There's no way you're seriouse...

Also what about green maghar or better yet, freaking mechagnomes with no cybernetic enhancements what so ever.

I would really just merge most AR's with their Core Races and have different origins.

[Varx]

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I didn't move any goal post.

I said imagine if LFD got regular draenie options, but apperantly I have to specify that its the ability to have your LFD look exactly like a regular draenie.

But what about my other scenarios which use the same anti natural velf logic.

Should maghar have green skin options. Keep in mind maghar literally translates to uncorrupted and green skin is a side effect of Fel CORRUPTION in orcs.

Or

Should mechagnomes have the ability to look like regular gnomes. Liek absolute ZERO cybernetics.


Like just answer the question my dude, stop dodging the questions

[Yarathir]

I would really just merge most AR's with their Core Races and have different origins.

Lightforged Draenei should've been a Draenei option and in their place we should have had Krokul/Broken.

Also forehead plate options for Draenei when?

[Varx]

I would really just merge most AR's with their Core Races and have different origins.

That's not what I asked.

Again, with lore integrity Taken into consideration, should maghar have green skin options or mechagnomes with zero cybernetics if players requested them, YES or NO

[MyWholeLifeIsThunder]

That's not what I asked.

Again, with lore integrity Taken into consideration, should maghar have green skin options or mechagnomes with zero cybernetics if players requested them, YES or NO

What a disingenuous question tho, lol.

Are Green Orcs or non mechanized gnomes available to the same faction otherwise?

Come on. Don't try to make a "gotcha" when the whole context is different.

Also, when you said "draenei customizations" I was really thinking about hairstyles and jewelry, those should be shared between CR and AR.

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Lightforged Draenei should've been a Draenei option and in their place we should have had Krokul/Broken.

Also forehead plate options for Draenei when?

Yeah.

Honestly LFD, Maghar, HMT and Dark Iron Dwarves all should have been customization options.

[Valandale]

Since we got our High Elf options, and the squeeze being felt by Blizz atm, i think it is the best time for just everyone to start asking for what they want added for customization. I don't think we'll see any new ARs or even new races anytime soon but customization seems like a good chance of being added. Tattooes and runes on skin for everyone really! All elves have rune-tattoos in their cultures, heck it'd be fun to see Void Tattoos for VEs, Arcane for both, Light and/or Fel Tattoos for BE since the Legion is now vanquished the leniency towards fel magic might slide just that much. I just wish the tattoo colors worked well. For Orcs, i don't use much tattooing even though I wish i could because the colors kind of clash with the rest of the textures.

Oh and more scars! All the elves live for so long, they don't have near enough scarring options for that kind of wear and tear.

[Varx]

What a disingenuous question tho, lol.

Are Green Orcs or non mechanized gnomes available to the same faction otherwise?

Come on. Don't try to make a "gotcha" when the whole context is different.

Also, when you said "draenei customizations" I was really thinking about hairstyles and jewelry, those should be shared between CR and AR.

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Yeah.

Honestly LFD, Maghar, HMT and Dark Iron Dwarves all should have been customization options.

It's not a disingenuous question.

Maghar cant be green because they lack fel corruption and mechagnomes need to obviously have cybernetic enhancements.

So with that in mind its okay for a VOID elf to have zero void features??? The fact that helfers want pure elves in the alliance is irrelevant and shouldn't effect the integrity of the race you're playing. That is blizzard's mistake and it cost awesome new possible void options.

[MyWholeLifeIsThunder]

It's not a disingenuous question.

Maghar cant be green because they lack fel corruption and mechagnomes need to obviously have cybernetic enhancements.

So with that in mind its okay for a VOID elf to have zero void features??? The fact that helfers want pure elves in the alliance is irrelevant and shouldn't effect the integrity of the race you're playing.

Sure, if you want to pretzel your logic to make sense.

Like we are all talking about model availability and resource eficiency, and you come up with the "but race integrity!?!?" BS

Maghar don't need green skin because the Horde already has Orcs.

Machagnomes don't need non-enhanced bodies because the Alliance already has Gnomes.

Void Elves needed HE options because there was no other feasible way to have HE fantasy on the Alliance.

Your point is WEAK AS HELL!!! if you need to remove the actual context to make it.

[Valandale]

About the only thing Mechagnomes need is the ability to change the metal colorings so they match the heritage armor or more heritage armor colors. That and partial mechanization. It'd be cool for like one mecha arm and one flesh, or just a single mech-eye. Part of that is probably animations and armor mechanics though...

[Varx]

Sure, if you want to pretzel your logic to make sense.

Like we are all talking about model availability and resource eficiency, and you come up with the "but race integrity!?!?" BS

Maghar don't need green skin because the Horde already has Orcs.

Machagnomes don't need non-enhanced bodies because the Alliance already has Gnomes.

Void Elves needed HE options because there was no other feasible way to have HE fantasy on the Alliance.

Your point is WEAK AS HELL!!! if you need to remove the actual context to make it.

The Alliance never needed HE's in the first place! Pure elves were horde and high elf NPC's should have stayed as NPC's. Voidy Velves should have been the one and only compromise. Hell NB's should have been alliance and Sanlyan should have been Horde.


The fact that you dont care about the integrity really says a lot though. Honestly, just screw the lore and lets have regular undead become paladins with zero explanations as to why, give maghar the ability to be warlocks, make alliance goblins, horde kul tirans, and any other crazy shit you can think of because keeping integrity for the lore is "BS", right? As long as every special snowflake is happy. Cuz that's all that matters.

[Yarathir]

itt Horde players sneething because the Alliance finally gets something that was taken from them in the first place for no good reason

[Val the Moofia Boss]

Still waiting for Blizzard to give fair skin and blue eyes to Void Elves.

[Varx]

itt Horde players sneething because the Alliance finally gets something that was taken from them in the first place for no good reason

No one took anything away. Quel'thalas left the alliance because they were treated like shit and abandoned. TBC explained their induction in the horde perfectly especially as sylvanas was their ambassador.

[elbleuet]

The Alliance never needed HE's in the first place! Pure elves were horde and high elf NPC's should have stayed as NPC's. Voidy Velves should have been the one and only compromise. Hell NB's should have been alliance and Sanlyan should have been Horde.


The fact that you dont care about the integrity really says a lot though. Honestly, just screw the lore and lets have regular undead become paladins with zero explanations as to why, give maghar the ability to be warlocks, make alliance goblins, horde kul tirans, and any other crazy shit you can think of because keeping integrity for the lore is "BS", right? As long as every special snowflake is happy. Cuz that's all that matters.

The Alliance needed the High elves to be complete again. And now it is.
High elves never left the Alliance, and are everywhere in WoW.

We have Alleria Windrunner, Vereesa Windrunner, Auric Sunchaser ...

Also High elves were founding members of the Alliance of Lordaeron...

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Still waiting for Blizzard to give fair skin and blue eyes to Void Elves.

It's already the case.

[MyWholeLifeIsThunder]

The Alliance never needed HE's in the first place! Pure elves were horde and high elf NPC's should have stayed as NPC's. Voidy Velves should have been the one and only compromise. The fact that you dont care about the integrity really says a lot though. Honestly, just screw the lore and lets have regular undead become paladins with zero explanations as to why, give maghar the ability to be warlocks, make alliance goblins, horde kul tirans, and any other crazy shit you can think of because keeping integrity for the lore is "BS", right? As long as every special snowflake is happy. Cuz that's all that matters.

Are you quite finished with your tantrum?

It's just hilarious that you wail and wail about "the integrity of the lore" when the desire of High Elves literally is a reflection of want to see an aspect of the lore playable.

Alliance High Elves are part of the Lore, now they are playable. This was done by adding their aesthetics on an already existing model, which was efficient.

I don't know how you want anyone to respect your argument about lore integrity, when the argument about High Elves has always been about the lore. That you are trying to make it an argument about the integrity of the gameplay assets is just profoundly sad.

Get well soon.

[Yarathir]

"Nooo, you can't give Void Elves High Elf options. We stole that fair and square because nobody wanted to play the Horde without a pretty race option in 2005"

[MyWholeLifeIsThunder]

Still waiting for Blizzard to give fair skin and blue eyes to Void Elves.

GIRL!?! Where have you been since 2020??

[Varx]

The Alliance needed the High elves to be complete again. And now it is.
High elves never left the Alliance, and are everywhere in WoW.

We have Alleria Windrunner, Vereesa Windrunner, Auric Sunchaser ...

Also High elves were founding members of the Alliance of Lordaeron...

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It's already the case.

The entire kingdom of Quel'thalas left the alliance because they were not appreciated and abandoned in their hour of greatest need, just because a small group of helves decided to stay out of some messed up sense of stockhom syndrome and then made up the small silver covenant doesnt mean they should have been playable. They were just a small faction for flavor but somehow alliance players saw it as carrot waving because they loooooved the belf model so much and couldnt stand to play with orcs.

Now, we have an awesome void race and an expansion that preached about racial customization and not a single freaking void option was added, oh but you got a fuck ton of pure options. FFS velves have more pure skin tones than they do void. Like come on... Oh but hey good for the helfers, they got what they wanted, but not really, at the expense of their race.

Are you quite finished with your tantrum?

It's just hilarious that you wail and wail about "the integrity of the lore" when the desire of High Elves literally is a reflection of want to see an aspect of the lore playable.

Alliance High Elves are part of the Lore, now they are playable. This was done by adding their aesthetics on an already existing model, which was efficient.

Again, so are horde kul tirans and alliance goblins, doesn't mean they should be playable. Not everything an NPC has should be reflected for players.

I'm right, and that's all there is to it and you know it. Now you're stuck with half baked velves and add ons that say high elf when you mouse over your toon.

[Val the Moofia Boss]

GIRL!?! Where have you been since 2020??

Still look malformed.