1. #24801
    Quote Originally Posted by Flade View Post
    It's more of a successor alliance than true alliance of lordaeron.
    Soooo the same
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  2. #24802
    Quote Originally Posted by Candy Cough View Post
    Soooo the same
    No. /10chars

  3. #24803
    Quote Originally Posted by Yarathir View Post
    High Elves have been a part of the Alliance since 5ever, though. Also what does Garithos have to do with it? Best to just cope soon.
    So? So has the Stonemaul clan, but they aren't playable

    Because Garithos was Alliance and used the blood elves as cannon fodder? Lor'themar literally says it in MoP "When will they see that the Horde exists BECAUSE of the Alliance? Because of their prejudice and their bigotry!?"
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  4. #24804
    Quote Originally Posted by MyWholeLifeIsThunder View Post
    I admit I laughed.

    But yeah, what the alliance needs is for Raid Grouping to become factionless. It doesn't matter what you give the Horde or Alliance at this point, the imbalance is just insurmountable.
    there is no faction imbalance, the alliance and the horde have the same population.
    Horde players are more hardcore and Alliance players are more RP. but their populations are equal.
    It's as if I complained that there is not enough RP in the horde

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    Quote Originally Posted by MyWholeLifeIsThunder View Post
    l (and even San'layn, with their very recent participation on the 4th War and strong connection to the Blood Elves)

    So yeah, to the point I would prefer so many other races before, I'd rather have neutral Alteraci mmm.
    You mean when they killed and ate the horde soldiers and planned to use the horde as cattle?
    They have the same connection to the void elves, but at least the void elves use necromancy.

    alterac humans for the horde, sanlayn for the alliance! (apparently many alliance players want playable sanlayn that have them in their faction)

  5. #24805
    Quote Originally Posted by Yarathir View Post
    I miss Shadowlands beta. There was a face in there that technically belonged to the new "asian" options, but it worked well as a fairly smooth, young-looking (i.e. non-cro-magnon) white face.

    Then they ruined it in the last build and now it always looks shocked.
    I think this is the face you're referring to. I do agree it would be nice if we had more face options like being able to narrow the eyes a bit so they don't look so surprised. I use this face now on one of my characters and found that the "sharp" or "natural" eyebrow selections do help mitigate the "surprised" look somewhat.


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    My problem are not the faces. I think they did well.
    But the bulky body shape. Like.. one of 10 human males has this body shape. It looks so dump to me. I would really like a more agile one
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  7. #24807
    Quote Originally Posted by Pheraz View Post
    My problem are not the faces. I think they did well.
    But the bulky body shape. Like.. one of 10 human males has this body shape. It looks so dump to me. I would really like a more agile one
    I agree with you that the stormwind human model is far too bulky. I'd love for us to get body shape options for all races. I don't expect we'll ever see sliders in WoW, but maybe if there was an option to select which size model we use from a small number via a drop down menu. Like a leaner version of the current Human model, the Human model we have now, and an option to use the Kul Tiran "big boy" model. I'd like the same choices for the Kul Tirans as well.
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    This is the first time I've dropped into this thread since before helves were officially added. The discussion here now is pretty nice, I might actually participate now and again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyriani View Post
    I agree with you that the stormwind human model is far too bulky. I'd love for us to get body shape options for all races. I don't expect we'll ever see sliders in WoW, but maybe if there was an option to select which size model we use from a small number via a drop down menu. Like a leaner version of the current Human model, the Human model we have now, and an option to use the Kul Tiran "big boy" model. I'd like the same choices for the Kul Tirans as well.
    Yes that would be fantastic

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyriani View Post
    I agree with you that the stormwind human model is far too bulky. I'd love for us to get body shape options for all races. I don't expect we'll ever see sliders in WoW, but maybe if there was an option to select which size model we use from a small number via a drop down menu. Like a leaner version of the current Human model, the Human model we have now, and an option to use the Kul Tiran "big boy" model. I'd like the same choices for the Kul Tirans as well.
    Yes that would be fantastic
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  10. #24810
    Quote Originally Posted by Lilithvia View Post
    This is the first time I've dropped into this thread since before helves were officially added. The discussion here now is pretty nice, I might actually participate now and again.
    Welcome back! It made a turn for the better once the skin tones were announced. After that, a lot of the naysayers bounced. Not to say it's always civil, but the arguments are less frequent, less polarized and usually about a specific bit of lore or a specific option wanted or not wanted. Even then it very rarely devolves into pages long conflicts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyriani View Post
    Even then it very rarely devolves into pages long conflicts.


    But really, welcome back @Lilithvia !

  12. #24812
    All of this should have been in the game since 2017 so this is proof that the Void elves were seen by Blizzard as a case of "Break in case subs drop" button.

    And honestly they were wise to give this privilege to the most beautiful, perfect, splendid race in the game, but they could have been more blunt with it. Oh well there's no point in dwelling in the past.

  13. #24813
    Quote Originally Posted by Kyriani View Post
    I think this is the face you're referring to. I do agree it would be nice if we had more face options like being able to narrow the eyes a bit so they don't look so surprised. I use this face now on one of my characters and found that the "sharp" or "natural" eyebrow selections do help mitigate the "surprised" look somewhat.


    This was the face. It was that way until I think literally the last Beta build.

    Then it became this. I guess this is post-Goldshire.

  14. #24814
    Quote Originally Posted by Redzonetode View Post
    LMFAOOOOOOOO no black or white or brown hair for void elves.

    they really went with 3 shades of blond LOOOOL.

    god that is so annoying

    and it's so clearly copypasted from blood elves

    why did the announcement post make it sound like it was some big undertaking, that the devs were "able to" add 5 hair colors lmao
    WAnt peroxide white, and jet star dotted black.


    Peroxide white, somehow seems fitting don't ask me why, and a black and dark purple with star dots like the void cosmos, seems like it will be beautiful
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  15. #24815
    Quote Originally Posted by FossilFree View Post
    The Horde should definitely get Alteraci humans. I've been a supporter of adding them ever since I saw this thread:

    https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...-(Fan-Concept)
    100% agree, what a great concept. Really well put together.

  16. #24816
    Quote Originally Posted by Yarathir View Post
    This was the face. It was that way until I think literally the last Beta build.
    Then it became this. I guess this is post-Goldshire.
    Ah I see, I wasn't thinking of that face. Yea none of the eyebrows do much to mitigate "surprise" face for that one.

    The face with the scar looks nice though.


  17. #24817
    Quote Originally Posted by Rhlor View Post
    there is no faction imbalance, the alliance and the horde have the same population.
    Horde players are more hardcore and Alliance players are more RP. but their populations are equal.
    It's as if I complained that there is not enough RP in the horde
    Dude, you CANNOT keep collecting trash opinions like STD's!

    "There's no faction imbalance"

    Jesus freaking christ.


    You mean when they killed and ate the horde soldiers and planned to use the horde as cattle?
    Yes! Those ones! I'd love to play as them!

    But I love how you simply dismissed the part where Kael'thas could redeem the remaining San'layn. Like come on, you are free to not want San'layn, but to simply misrepresent what someone is saying is just blergh. Basically you believe that san'layn are irredeemably evil, which is just silly. I's just so freaking transparent how basic your ideas of good and evil are and I'm tired of your constant push of making BE's pointy eared, light worshiping humans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyriani View Post
    I agree with you that the stormwind human model is far too bulky. I'd love for us to get body shape options for all races. I don't expect we'll ever see sliders in WoW, but maybe if there was an option to select which size model we use from a small number via a drop down menu. Like a leaner version of the current Human model, the Human model we have now, and an option to use the Kul Tiran "big boy" model. I'd like the same choices for the Kul Tirans as well.
    "body size" really should become an option in the future, hopefully soon, but it's hard to see it being implemented with WoW's tech beyond simply making a whole new edited model, which to be honest, feels doable.

  18. #24818
    Quote Originally Posted by MyWholeLifeIsThunder View Post
    Dude, you CANNOT keep collecting trash opinions like STD's!

    "There's no faction imbalance"

    Jesus freaking christ.




    Yes! Those ones! I'd love to play as them!

    But I love how you simply dismissed the part where Kael'thas could redeem the remaining San'layn. Like come on, you are free to not want San'layn, but to simply misrepresent what someone is saying is just blergh. Basically you believe that san'layn are irredeemably evil, which is just silly. I's just so freaking transparent how basic your ideas of good and evil are and I'm tired of your constant push of making BE's pointy eared, light worshiping humans.

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    "body size" really should become an option in the future, hopefully soon, but it's hard to see it being implemented with WoW's tech beyond simply making a whole new edited model, which to be honest, feels doable.
    Yea that's what I would expect WoW to do. Basically edit each race's model so there's a lean, muscular, and bulky version for players to choose from.

  19. #24819
    Quote Originally Posted by Kyriani View Post
    Yea that's what I would expect WoW to do. Basically edit each race's model so there's a lean, muscular, and bulky version for players to choose from.
    For example, that would also allow a bulky Troll model, and thus Amani and Drakkari!

    But yeah, they would have to be a whole different model to account for specifics like shoulder size and 3d assets, which I do think overall could work. Like yea body sliders would be *better* but that just seems outside the scope of WoW customization; but simply having more models seems doable with their current tech.

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    Well, since WoW seems to be in a free fall, High Elves might be added at some point in relatively near future, lmao.

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