Official High Elf Discussion Megathread

[Kyriani]

night elves paladins and blood elves botanist!

I have no objection to either

[Rhlor]

Is botanist just a druid but under a differing class skin like the Tempest Keep dude?

botanist would be how they would call the druids blood elves, blood elves paladins are called blood knight

[MyWholeLifeIsThunder]

Races aren't restricted to paladins because balance....

Their restricted because being a paladin is being a light zealot who's infused with light. Not every race fits that bill.

Velves were belves from silver moon who had access to all their classes but not paladins and dks for very very obvious reasons.

U got dks no since the updated scenario.

But still no paladins because velves physically cannot be paladins. Which means you're not actually a pure elf even if you LOOK like it.

I'm not tallking about gameplay balance, but cultural niches. Pre Third War Era High Elves were by no means Light Zealots. So the Alliance High Elves DO NOT follow the requisites to have Paladins as a common class.

So Velves can't be Paladins, and High Elven were never a big enough thing culturally to necessitate being playable.

So why again SHOULD High Elves be able to be Paladin if they don't meet the cultural requisites?

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I don't think void elves will ever get the paladin class, but if they do, I wouldn't be shocked if Blizzard made the class appear under a different name for them, renamed the spells and changed the visuals to be blue-black like other void spells. After that they might give a glyph to make them look holy. But in the unlikely event that paladins ever happen for void elves, I'd wager they'd be canonically void empowered, not light.

But I don't work for blizz so what the hell do I know? With all the shake ups going on over there, who's to say what the heck they will do down the road.

But honestly, I'll be shocked if void elves got paladins before getting demon hunters.

Night elf paladins make way more sense to me.

IMO I would give NE Paladins and VE's Shaman because the later combo is just way cooler and ties into the "Dark Shaman/Elementalist" vibe. It would serve to give VE's an unique combo that no other elf has.

[Valandale]

botanist would be how they would call the druids blood elves, blood elves paladins are called blood knight

I like that, they should do that. We need more class differentials and flavored text.

[Rhlor]

I'm not tallking about gameplay balance, but cultural niches. Pre Third War Era High Elves were by no means Light Zealots. So the Alliance High Elves DO NOT follow the requisites to have Paladins as a common class.

So Velves can't be Paladins, and High Elven were never a big enough thing culturally to necessitate being playable.

So why again SHOULD High Elves be able to be Paladin if they don't meet the cultural requisites?

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IMO I would give NE Paladins and VE's Shaman because the later combo is just way cooler and ties into the "Dark Shaman/Elementalist" vibe. It would serve to give VE's an unique combo that no other elf has.

the quel'dorei worshiped the light and had a high priest. priest were part of the original blood knight members
void elves should be able to have paladins at least paladins with void effects i guess

[Luck4]

If only Void Elves arrived with these customizations from start, back then in 7.3.5 in 2018, maybe the Alliance wouldn't have died.

While I'm happy for Void Elves in 9.1.5, only cross-faction PVE/guilds can save Alliance at this point.

[FossilFree]

This just confirms the adage, "The squeaky wheel gets the grease."

Instead of sitting back quietly brooding over not getting things or saying what things shouldn't be added...

Start asking for what you want them to add. Loudly, and often.

[Luck4]

This just confirms the adage, "The squeaky wheel gets the grease."

Instead of sitting back quietly brooding over not getting things or saying what things shouldn't be added...

Start asking for what you want them to add. Loudly, and often.

Yeah, that's for sure!

But I think most people finally got that message now, many threads about possible allied races and customizations are emerging again.

If I had the time, I would do a machinima of this song with Void Elves using 9.1.5 High Elf customizations on Alliance cities:

[FossilFree]

Yeah, that's for sure!

But I think most people finally got that message now, many threads about possible allied races and customizations are emerging again.

If I had the time, I would do a machinima of this song with Void Elves using 9.1.5 High Elf customizations on Alliance cities:

That would be very fitting! lol

[Vaedan]

fully support for sanlayn as customization for void elves or forsaken

Undead thalassian (Dark ranger/San'layn) has been a Horde thing, so it should stay Horde thing. I actually think San'layn allied race would be the best way how to implement them, because they'd their own group, possible with ties to both blood elves and forsaken. Giving it to the Alliance is something nobody wants (well, only you) and somthing a lot of horde fans would be mad about. On the other hand, slapping these undead customizations seem to be the easiest way for devs, so who knows.

"Lightforged" features for blood elves are great idea, I'd like that.

[Wired-Lain]

lol okay so blood elf paladins were considered such a "break in the lore" by metzen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NE-4Edh3RuM (3:33 in this video) they had to invent the concept of blood knights for it to make sense. Paladins were a human creation on Azeroth, and the high elves were not especially fond of learning from them. We know only of one guy who did, who is now a blood elf. Paladins absolutely were not an widely established part of quel'thalas prior to the blood knights.

Blood Elf paladins, such as Liadrin, were priests who had lost faith in the light after the scourge and took up a martial stance afterwards. There was no paladin order before then. Do high elf paladins exist? Yes, theres a couple. Just like theres blood elf druids, night elf and undead paladins, tauren warlocks etc. It doesnt mean they're an entrenched, culture defining component.

High Elves not having paladins is completely fine, makes sense and does a good job to distnguish them from the very Light focused blood elves.

tl;dr learn your lore

[MyWholeLifeIsThunder]

Undead thalassian (Dark ranger/San'layn) has been a Horde thing, so it should stay Horde thing. I actually think San'layn allied race would be the best way how to implement them, because they'd their own group, possible with ties to both blood elves and forsaken. Giving it to the Alliance is something nobody wants (well, only you) and somthing a lot of horde fans would be mad about. On the other hand, slapping these undead customizations seem to be the easiest way for devs, so who knows.

"Lightforged" features for blood elves are great idea, I'd like that.

Just like we are getting HE's through VE's, the most efficient way to get San'layn is through Blood Elves. Simple as that.

And in terms of efficiency, we just got so much bang for our buck with adding HE stuff on the VE model!

[Ardenaso]

I certainly don't remember High Elf paladins in any Warcraft RTS. I could be mistaken though.

I made one for Reforged

https://www.hiveworkshop.com/threads...aladin.332446/



it's supposed to be for Mehlar Dawnblade in Re-Reforged

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I'd support Blood Elf druids as callback for the WC2 Runestones

[FossilFree]

I made one for Reforged

https://www.hiveworkshop.com/threads...aladin.332446/



it's supposed to be for Mehlar Dawnblade in Re-Reforged

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I'd support Blood Elf druids as callback for the WC2 Runestones

Very cool! Nice work.

[Geckoo]

I no longer play the game, but i'm really glad that they finally understood what that race had to be, even with the void involved. I'm glad for those who will be able to finally look like a high elf playing on their desired faction, if i decide to come back to the game at some point in the future, this will certainly be one of the reasons. Sadly it remains to be seen if this is truly a change in how they design the game or just part of a series of popular changes to try to save the expansion.

If there is a lesson to be learned here (by blizzard) is that giving players more customization options and more ways to express their own vision is never a bad idea, this also includes class/race combos... be more open about it, let people have fun and adapt the lore afterwards if needed. The more class/race combinations and more "sub-races" available via customization options the better.

[Amaterasu65]

I'm so happy they get all those colors. I'm also so jealous this happened the expansion I went Horde. I had a human mage since 2006 and I said I'd refuse to race change to any other Alliance race unless it's High Elves. And now it can be 10000% realized. We won!

[BaumanKing]

Congratulations to all of you guys and gals! As a War2 purist, I'm really happy for you. Finally, my main orc warrior can kill high elves again like in the good old days

[Edoll]

Congratulations to all of you guys and gals! As a War2 purist, I'm really happy for you. Finally, my main orc warrior can kill high elves again like in the good old days

Death coil me harder, death knight daddy!

[Shadowlands-is-fake]

Rogue, Warlock and Priest are probably the most obvious classes for Void Elves. But when it comes to Void Elves that look like High Elves, which ones do you guys fit best? I'm thinking Hunter and Mage. Possibly also Priest still, but with a Holy or Discipline focus?

[Yarathir]

Congratulations to all of you guys and gals! As a War2 purist, I'm really happy for you. Finally, my main orc warrior can kill high elves again like in the good old days

This is what it's really about.

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Rogue, Warlock and Priest are probably the most obvious classes for Void Elves. But when it comes to Void Elves that look like High Elves, which ones do you guys fit best? I'm thinking Hunter and Mage. Possibly also Priest still, but with a Holy or Discipline focus?

Hunter (Ranger), Mage (Sorcerer) and Priest would be the best. To me, it's the former two that are by far the most iconic. Probably Holy for Priest but Disc should be fine.