Official High Elf Discussion Megathread

[Yarathir]

Got to admit, high elves look great in blue. All your transmogs are awesome

And so utterly killable, no?

[Frenchvince]

I'm happy guys !
It was a long battle but it was worth it !

Here are my updated characters.





The sin'dorei transmo to rage the horde !

[Thalassian Bob]

I may be betraying Quel'Thalas in getting excited about this but my turncoat ranger and Sundancer are getting ready to live our best (and fashionably coordinated ) lives on the PTR (which is currently downloading).

I'm happy guys !
It was a long battle but it was worth it !

Here are my updated characters.
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The sin'dorei transmo to rage the horde !

I love your hunter's transmog (all the others are great too)! Lovely blend on the green Nighthold and racial sets to create a very Allerian blend!

[Frenchvince]

I love your hunter's transmog (all the others are great too)! Lovely blend on the green Nighthold and racial sets to create a very Allerian blend!

Yes that was the goal of making a transmo that mixes quel'dorei / ren'dorei.
I'm missing more than a braid hairstyle to complete this look, I hope we get some.

[Thalassian Bob]

Yes that was the goal of making a transmo that mixes quel'dorei / ren'dorei.
I'm missing more than a braid hairstyle to complete this look, I hope we get some.

That would be cool but I wouldn't hold my breath for getting them before the next expansion. But, I would have told you the same thing about blonde hair two months ago... ^^'

[melzas]

Ok, I'm definetly gonna make a void elf once they do something about that horrible purple goo racial. This is neat.

[Tanaria]

You're missing the point of what I was saying, taking it out of context, and fialing to see what I was trying to say.

You took one look at blood elves lose Silvermoon and everything but "NOOO" went out of your head, including reading the rest of what was being said.

Go back and read it. It's all there.

You said, that they could leave Horde Sin'dorei and Horde Shal'dorei as homeless as they aren't needed in the lore. So, these races should only be used for visuals and that Horde players are forced to see only Orcs, Trolls and Tauren.

What if, these plans of Alliance taking over Lordaeron, Silvermoon and Suramar are just not what Blizzard is planning now? What if, like they have already said, that a Horde vs Alliance expansion just isn't on the cards after BFA? They stated that BFA would serve as one of the last faction war based expansions for a long while...maybe, after the reception of Darnassus and Undercity, destroying racial capitals or giving them to the alternative factions is just not what they want to do?

[Baja Blast]

So I'm happy about the new options, but I'm concerned about how the blue post only acknowledged Highmountain Tauren and did not mention Void Elves for new customization in the future. I really, really hope they don't think this is enough as literally all new Void Elf options have been straight up copy pasted aside from the purple eyes, on top of the fact the race was a lazy copy paste from the beginning.

Nightborne look incredible now, they clearly put a lot of work into the new options (more than LFD imo). Disgusts me that some players have the audacity to claim Void Elves are spoiled when it took years and thousands of posts just to get simple copy pastes, when players were asking for modified models, animations, and new hairstyles to differentiate from Blood Elves from the beginning. Horde players are so tunnel visioned on copy pasted Blood Elf options that they're completely ignoring how much love Nightborne just received and pushing this narrative that Void Elves are hogging all the dev resources which is laughable.

If we receive a customization pass in the future, it'll be fine, but like I said, I'm really concerned Blizzard might actually think this is enough and just completely skip out on giving Void Elves new options. Hope I'm wrong.

[Pheraz]

Just a regular day on PTR the day after high elves are in the game playable xD



There is really some fresh air in the game. Yes yes some people will shout "customisations who cares" but there is sooo much joy suddenly, really cool!

[MyWholeLifeIsThunder]

Just a regular day on PTR the day after high elves are in the game playable xD



There is really some fresh air in the game. Yes yes some people will shout "customisations who cares" but there is sooo much joy suddenly, really cool!

Hey! Yours is the green hunter with the side pony right? I saw you there earlier!

So many HElves in the barbershop hanging out even tho the chairs don't work bhaha

[Doffen]

I'm happy guys !
It was a long battle but it was worth it !

Here are my updated characters.





The sin'dorei transmo to rage the horde !

Hey thats the set my hunter will use! Probably be blond too! And of course with the Survival Hunter mage tower spear with same colors as the bow.

The proper Alleria lookalike playable character, if she was a melee

Btw, Eagleton Tier19 ftw! All colors!

[MyWholeLifeIsThunder]

So I'm happy about the new options, but I'm concerned about how the blue post only acknowledged Highmountain Tauren and did not mention Void Elves for new customization in the future. I really, really hope they don't think this is enough as literally all new Void Elf options have been straight up copy pasted aside from the purple eyes, on top of the fact the race was a lazy copy paste from the beginning.

Nightborne look incredible now, they clearly put a lot of work into the new options (more than LFD imo). Disgusts me that some players have the audacity to claim Void Elves are spoiled when it took years and thousands of posts just to get simple copy pastes, when players were asking for modified models, animations, and new hairstyles to differentiate from Blood Elves from the beginning. Horde players are so tunnel visioned on copy pasted Blood Elf options that they're completely ignoring how much love Nightborne just received and pushing this narrative that Void Elves are hogging all the dev resources which is laughable.

If we receive a customization pass in the future, it'll be fine, but like I said, I'm really concerned Blizzard might actually think this is enough and just completely skip out on giving Void Elves new options. Hope I'm wrong.

I've said it elswhere, but I think there's a reason VE's are only getting reused assets for now.

IMO, all the AR customizations were about to come on 10.0, and now they are fast tracking them in order: except for VE's.

Could be just because it was easier for now to just add the BE stuff they already planned on sharing, just like they did with the skins. Like it's not "brand new stuff" but it already gave VEs new options in the meantime. This helps them focus on the AR's that had gotten nothing first.

And speculating a bit, it could also have some lore reasons; as in with the new expansion Void Elves will have evolved more culturally, so perhaps things like hairstyles are linked to that aesthetic evolution. Void Elves NEED a more defined cultural aesthetic, and perhaps it will all be linked together with the narrative of next expansion.

Like we need answers on simple stuff like "can VE's recruit new members?" and if such, how would that impact their cultural aesthetics and identity? Would they delve deeper into Ethereal aesthetics, or evolve a completely new one? A huge issue with VE's is that they don't have a culture, so I'm hoping they are letting that simmer within the narrative to bring it on the forefront next expansion, and to that is what their new customizations will be linked to.

[Pheraz]

Hey! Yours is the green hunter with the side pony right? I saw you there earlier!

So many HElves in the barbershop hanging out even tho the chairs don't work bhaha

Yeah Which one was yours?

[Alixie]

I dont see any problems with Entropic embrace.
Its not any more immersion-breaking than being a Thornspeaker Kultiran druid who uses astral energy instead of death/decay-part of druidism

Same. Most of my characters turn red, yellow, grey or some other random color when I pop a cooldown or trinket.

[Rhlor]

You're missing the point of what I was saying, taking it out of context, and fialing to see what I was trying to say.

You took one look at blood elves lose Silvermoon and everything but "NOOO" went out of your head, including reading the rest of what was being said.

Go back and read it. It's all there.

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They'll probably change it, including the starting sequence. Don't worry.

It's perfect for those who want to play as void elves, but not those who want to play as high elves. a little tweaking should sort that out.

Void embrace or solar embrace (sunwell torrent?). Same thing, different visual. you choose

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Another option would be to just provide a glyph for the racial... like Astral form.

Yeh, void elves are basically the human buddy high elf that can be playable so they could avoid giving high elves who looked like blood leves, but then eventually just ended up doing so anyway, so now you have 2 thalassian elf factions on the alliance. Which is also fine. It frees night elves now to be night elves as they were originally meant to be, as you now have the thalassian taking on the human friend elf position for your LotR type fantasy.

The Thalassians are a core portion of the alliance, their origin and beginnings in the series is tied directly to the alliance and they are a core part of it's identity. Even when giving the blood elves to the horde, blizzard left the high elves around. Now we have void elves too.

To me that's fine, the driving force of the elves should always be the alliance. And they should be stronger on their because the race is very alliance themed and centred, especially the Thalassians.

Right now the horde doesn't need blood elves being so big on, mi think it would do the faction identity a huge favour if the bulk of elven development sat squarely on the alliance, while the horde remained a token force to allow pretty model options for players who wouldn't play it otherwise, rather than driving huge developments for elves on a faction that clearly has little to nothing in common with it. Blood elves are too alliance in character, and Nightborne too kaldorei - they are blatantly alliance and night elves on the horde - and if they are given limelight on the horde, they detract away from the contrast between the factions making them seem too similar.


the best solutions is to stoop promoting them on the horde, and instead focus on building alliance night elves (with their Highborne, druids and priests ) as hte main centre of all things kaldorei (past and presents) and void elves and high elves to carry on most of the developments regarding Thalassians.


Three options that could take major steps to shifting this perspective amongst players would either be:

1. Take Silvermoon and Suramar to the alliance and convert the blood elves living in them to high elves, and Nightborne to night elves -with only a remnant remaining horde blood elves and true Nightborne on the horde). Compensate the horde losses by adding the city of Zul'aman + amani, City of Zul'drak plus the Drakkari, a city for the Mag'har (my fave location is Warsong hold Borean Tundra), and either a new goblin city (expanded Kezan or undermine) or the Farakki and Zul'farrak - this would reinforce the horde major themes. And whiles blood elves and Nightborne still remain on the horde, they are a very minor part in the larger scheme.

2. Share Silvermoon with the void elves and high elves, Share Suramar with the night elves and Nightborne - this helps reinforce in game the fact that Silvermoon is the home of the high elves, and Suramar the home of the Night elves even though Nightborne are there, but they are night elf off shoot even though on the horde.. same with blood elves.

In this scenario Silvermoon has a enforced sanctuary status and elves don't kill each other or fight to in order to defend the Sunwell and protect their heritage while they argue and try to sway one another to the cause of one of the 3 factions of Thalassians. Meanwhile it's different in Suramar - Nightborne aren't that attached to the horde at all. Blood elf friendship kept them there, when the kaldorei refugees needed homes they were allowed to return to their former capital now having lots of extra space due to the high death toll of the legion. Nightborne do not hate kaldorei, in fact quite the opposite, and events of legion should have removed the last vestiges arcane stigma, now their is a cure and Thalyssra drained the nightwell.

night elves/Nightborne are ancient, the alliance and horde really should be secondary concerns to the, not dominate them. it's so weird to write them as ancient civilizations that have lived for over 10k millennia and dominated the world only to now seem to entirely define themselves by the horde and the alliance.. it's just poor, it's as if they write something and forget the main description and what it means.. they need to fix that, a capital share would achieve this.


3. Create 2 great new cities for both Night elves and the alliance Thalassians. That show off the best of the kaldorei people and the high elf and void elf. So while Silvermoon and Suramar remain horde, basically these new homes for night elves and void elves with high elves blow them out of the water. in this scenario, the horde elves are untouched, but most of the elven developments are now done and advanced on the alliance, whereas on the horde, focus is given to the orcs, trolls tauren, goblins etc.


This is what they should do in order of preference. 1 would be the best, if not 2, if not 3.

This was exactly what you wrote, there are many other posts where you also say similar things about stripping the blood elves and the nightborne of all their lore and aesthetics and not giving them anything, because the lore and the aesthetics and the development of the story must be only for the alliance

[MyWholeLifeIsThunder]

Yeah Which one was yours?

I think I was on my priest, she was on questing robes with the Elsharin blonde hair XD

[Kyriani]

Sadly I can't update my namesake until they add the black hair color to the ptr

But here's my warrior!



And my hunter!

[ravenmoon]

This was exactly what you wrote, there are many other posts where you also say similar things about stripping the blood elves and the nightborne of all their lore and aesthetics and not giving them anything, because the lore and the aesthetics and the development of the story must be only for the alliance

Except that isn't all I wrote, and do you understand what I was trying to say here? Cause it doesn't look like you did.

[MyWholeLifeIsThunder]

Today it was pretty chill hanging around with HE players outside the barbershop! Been loving how it has become the hangout spot for HE fans and info gets passed around.

Which reminds me! If you set your resolution to 1600x900, the barbershop chairs can be used without crashing (well, it does still crash sometimes, but for me it was like on my 6 change hehe)

Sadly I can't update my namesake until they add the black hair color to the ptr

But here's my warrior!



And my hunter!

Nice!! they look awesome ! Cant wait till next wee for the rest of the colors :3

[Thalassian Bob]

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