Official High Elf Discussion Megathread

[Varx]

People that bitch about people wanting high elves aren't any different to those they mock honestly. Same unruly behavior that has a lot of trash talking.

At least one side is mentally sane.

[RangerDaz]

The denial is real with this one.

Please, show us where he said they could come in the future? What I read was "If you want a pale-skinned elf, play Horde." to paraphrase. He didn't say they aren't coming soon, he painted the picture that High Elves are in the game already, on the Horde side.

Do you have trouble reading simple sentences, friend? I think you're seeing things that aren't there.

You're absolutely, 100% delusional if you read his statements as "They aren't coming soon."

Why am I surprised? You're the same person that said the Alliance would get Silvermoon and Horde would claim the Exodar.

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This, 100%. They want elves, but they can't even accept things with grace. The irony is real.

Look here i talk with respect to other people, and i expect the same as well. If you want to have a conversation with me, than talk nicely. I will answer to you, but if you answr in the same terms, i will not reply you back.

He spoke of the future as uncertain. And the future is always uncertain. Blizzard has changed their minds a lot of times. It is not a question of being delusional or not.

If you say this 100% for naming high elf supporters toxic community, dont become toxic as well.

[Enkrypt]

I'm sure this will come up again, so I'll try to explain as clearly as possible. Whether or not you agree with his reasoning is up to you, but I'll organize his answer into something more readable.




1. High Elves are basically the same as Blood Elves.




2. They wanted to give the Alliance something similar, but with it's own feel.



3. They want to keep the two factions distinct.




4. High Elves don't have a clear representation of culture, identity, or organization.

Even though your presentation is eloquent, and articulated... People will just say, "Ion's dumb, he doesn't know what he's talking about."

Some basement dweller that's fapped to HE females since the RTS games will still claim he knows more than Ion.

Word of the day: Delusional.

[Verdugo]

Oh good thing that void elves who were blood elves yesterday didnt disrupt integrity of your precious faction.

Well they are evil traitors, perfect fit for alliance.

[Obelisk Kai]

Oh good thing that void elves who were blood elves yesterday didnt disrupt integrity of your precious faction.

The loss of the model's uniqueness was unfortunate, but as the theme was kept exclusive to the Horde I found it a tolerable albeit imperfect compromise.

[Twinbros2]

This changes everything.

Your seven month campaign, the success of which only a few days ago you were so confident in you were openly stating how wonderful it would be to imagine the look on my face and others when High Elves became a reality, didn't change a single thing.

I'd even argue that Ion's statements make normal skin tones on Void Elves very improbable now too.

You may keep trying, but Blizzard has given it's reaction to your campaign. It has failed.

There is dignity in concession when faced with reality, as I would have done so had Blizzard decided the opposite.

It changes nothing for the forums. There will still be High Elf threads flooding this forum, WoW, and others. But that will at least give you threads to troll, at least that is something for you to do seeing as how you are always in the High Elf threads

[Goldielocks]

Ahh yes, because we have to completely just accept what the Devs tell us.

I guess those few thousand changes to the game that have happened to WoW over the last 14 years were completely not because people pointed out how stupid the ideas were enough that it was changed.

Not the same thing. Gameplay is far more encompassing than a single race not being added. People stop playing if the game no longer becomes fun to play. That's what they care about. Our money.

Cancelling your subscription over something like this is something a minority of players would do, and even then, that's pretty pathetic. The devs would stand with their beliefs out of principle.

[Oakshana]

- Burning Crusade: Highelves had a whole base in Outland (Allerian Stronghold). What about the core races of the Alliance? Humans: 1 (Honor Hold), Dwarves: 1 (Wildhammer Stronghold), Draenei: 1 (Telredor). Nightelves: 1 (Sylvanaar) and Gnomes again: 0

Gnomes had Toshley's Station in Blade's Edge. It's a pretty significant chunk of questing in that Zone for Alliance.

(I don't disagree with where you are going with your post... I just wanna give the little fellers their due.)

[Sorrior]

and? a void elf player can say his elf is a silver covenant elf, a high elf, everything he want, he can do that, he have base inlore to do that. its a non-issue



of course i mention, cause is what people want, they want play human+dwarf+elf cliche trio

they said "i lke then for lore" when its not, its just about the loftr cliche, already saw many times, so yeah, saying legolas is exposing then (He fans who don't admit they want be legolas)

I don't want to be legolas frankly i doubt i would use one much. But options are always better..and just like i want forest trolls and ogres on horde i want he on alliance.

And you are right you could say we were once silver covenant elves who decided to be void elves..but again they are not high elves culture mannerisms backstory all vary drastically.

Annd be are NOT the same as he. Years if cultural drift have torn them apart and in fact the he not taking the name be shoukd show just how different their ideology is.

[Enkrypt]

Look here i talk with respect to other people, and i expect the same as well. If you want to have a conversation with me, than talk nicely. I will answer to you, but if you answr in the same terms, i will not reply you back.

He spoke of the future as uncertain. And the future is always uncertain. Blizzard has changed their minds a lot of times. It is not a question of being delusional or not.

If you say this 100% for naming high elf supporters, dont become toxic as well.

Calling you delusional isn't disrespectful. I'm not calling you names, I'm calling your claims and behavior for what it is. Nowhere did he say, "They're coming soon." or "They aren't coming in BFA."

He said they aren't coming, period. And he gave the reasons why, yet you still find ways to dance around the truth. You choose to think there's some ambiguity there that isn't there. It's disrespectful to us, and downright misinformation, for you to go around saying, "They're still coming, just not in BFA."

Don't pretend I'm disprespecting you. I'm just poking fun at the general inability to accept the truth. You guys are really exhibiting a genuine lack of understanding of the situation. The Horde adopted the majority of what were once the High Elves. They're now called Blood Elves. Void Elves were the compromise for the Alliance to get the race you've been begging for, and you're too ingrate to accept it with grace. You're acting like a bunch of spoiled children that got an X-Box for your birthday when you wanted a Playstation.

[Sett]

At least one side is mentally sane.

That's a bit too far don't you think? It's a video game. Some people are passionate about the lore and its characters.

Ion did have some glaring holes in his argument. I don't even care for helfs (I just want velfs to have better skin choices that aren't all blue 1-2-3-4) but even I was taken back by Ion's comments. Compromises could be met. Don't give the Alliance helfs but take better care of what they got.


That's another thing--the velfs feel rushed in both lore and design. You fix those and you'll get a lot of the QQers to settle down and accept what they got.

[Yunaqt]

Jumped in this thread after watching the Q&A just to read the salt, i'm a bad person.

[Obelisk Kai]

@Obelisk Kai at long last

Indeed. We have waited years for this, an official statement confirming our position. Blizzcon 2017 was truly special

It was nice Ion repeated himself though so there was no doubt.

[Goldielocks]

Ion did have some glaring holes in his argument. I don't even care for helfs (I just want velfs to have better skin choices that aren't all blue 1-2-3-4) but even I was taken back by Ion's comments. Compromises could be met. Don't give the Alliance helfs but take better care of what they got.

There are no holes at all. Blizzard cares about faction integrity. That's why Velfs look so different. That was their compromise. The model.

There's nothing more to discuss here.

[Sorrior]

"Misfortune"? You call that misfortune? The race you want is literally on the Horde side and you just refuse to play the faction that has it. That's called being stubborn, not misfortunate.

But they are NOT high elves thematically speaking outside of MAYBE looks(with far more red tints to buildings then he had).

Story wise? Different

Personality wise? Very d8fferent given the different routes they took.

Mannerisms too

Culture? Oh yeah pretty different.


Ya know..maybe they plan to remove factions and that is why they are not adding he

[Al Gorefiend]

I hate high elves and would never play one, same how I never play blood elf or void elf. Night Elves and Nightborne are fine to me, but I absolutely despise the arrogant twatness of BE men, Nightborne were twats too but the playables have a sense of humbleness.

Still, despite HATING THEM, if high elves make a portion of the playerbase happy, why not just add them and be done with it? The "blurs faction identity" shouldn't be a thing anymore... we have Pandas, VEs and Nightborne now.

[Oakshana]

One of them told that Arrashi kid to kill himself. It happened.

Yeah... but to be fair, Arrashi is pretty much acts like a dick. He's acts like a dick 95% of the threads he involves himself in. Especially any regarding the Alliance.

That's not me condoning it, mind you. Just saying that Arrashi arrogantly pushes a lot of people's buttons. So it doesn't really surprise me someone finally got volatile with him.

[Varx]

That's a bit too far don't you think? It's a video game. Some people are passionate about the lore and its characters.

Ion did have some glaring holes in his argument. I don't even care for helfs (I just want velfs to have better skin choices that aren't all blue 1-2-3-4) but even I was taken back by Ion's comments. Compromises could be met. Don't give the Alliance helfs but take better care of what they got.


That's another thing--the velfs feel rushed in both lore and design. You fix those and you'll get a lot of the QQers to settle down and accept what they got.

No I don't think that's too far. There were messages in this damn thread about people ending their own lives over this topic. Now I'm not trying to paint these sub-humans with a broad brush but I do believe that the majority of "high elfers" are basement dwelling delusional fedora flipping neck bearded nut job mouth breathers.

[Zaino295]

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^Is blizzard really going to make this an allied race?

[Goldielocks]

Still, despite HATING THEM, if high elves make a portion of the playerbase happy, why not just add them and be done with it? The "blurs faction identity" shouldn't be a thing anymore... we have Pandas, VEs and Nightborne now.

The devs actually don't like how Pandaren were handled, precisely because it blurred faction lines. NB and VE look different enough from the model they originate. That's why it works.

Blizzard is just fine in their logic.