Official High Elf Discussion Megathread

[Mace]

And it's not rocket science that Quel'Thalas is Horde land, but ya know..

Horde land doesnt mean High elves wont or cant be involved And faction control can change, it is not rocket science either.

[Rhlor]

It is simple.

To understand, first you have to accept the premise that Void elves and High elves are now working intrinsically together as Ren'dorei, Children of the Void.

With the premise accepted, you can understand that this thread and the Void elf megathread could basically be merged (to put this in perspective, it's like having separate megathreads for Zandalari and Darkspear trolls instead of a single Troll megathread), and thereby this thread is regularly bumped because we talk about High elves but also, and mostly, Void elves.

And we are now at a time in the Story where the Ren'dorei are truly becoming main players of the Alliance, with Alleria Windrunner personally advising the newly-crowned King of Stormwind and High King of the Alliance, who is also her husband, Turalyon.

So there is already a lot of material to cover and talk about, and Spoilers, even more will be added once 10.0 is revealed.

turalyon is not king. is regent until anduin returns

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Horde land doesnt mean High elves wont or cant be involved And faction control can change, it is not rocket science either.

quelthalas has a government and inhabitants who are the ones who fought to save quelthalas if it weren't for lady liadrin, lorthemar, halduron, rommath and the armies loyal to the country and who are not servants of human potential quelthalas would be land of the scourge.
it is the leaders of quelthalas and the new recruits fighting to protect their homeland who once again in 9.2.5 save quelthalas. quelthalas is the essence of what it is to be a blood elf. The blood elf are patriots who fight to protect and save Quelthalas, that is their reason for existing.

[Mace]

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quelthalas has a government and inhabitants who are the ones who fought to save quelthalas if it weren't for lady liadrin, lorthemar, halduron, rommath and the armies loyal to the country and who are not servants of human potential quelthalas would be land of the scourge.
it is the leaders of quelthalas and the new recruits fighting to protect their homeland who once again in 9.2.5 save quelthalas. quelthalas is the essence of what it is to be a blood elf. The blood elf are patriots who fight to protect and save Quelthalas, that is their reason for existing.

That doesnt mean Jack. You should know by now that things can change. High elves can be involved, take over the whole place, or it can be destroyed like Theramore and Teldrassil.

Doesnt matter how hard Liadri fought, or that it was saved from the scourge.. that's all part 9f the story and past story doesnt prevent future story.

Ask the night elves of Teldrassil and Suramar. In fact ask the high elves of Wc2 and RoC WC3.

[elbleuet]

Dalaran is an Alliance kingdom letting Blood elves to be part of it.

Quel'Thalas has - and will have - to do the same.

As an Alliance Thalassian, I have every right to return to Silvermoon, my homeland.

[Varodoc]

turalyon is not king. is regent until anduin returns

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quelthalas has a government and inhabitants who are the ones who fought to save quelthalas if it weren't for lady liadrin, lorthemar, halduron, rommath and the armies loyal to the country and who are not servants of human potential quelthalas would be land of the scourge.
it is the leaders of quelthalas and the new recruits fighting to protect their homeland who once again in 9.2.5 save quelthalas. quelthalas is the essence of what it is to be a blood elf. The blood elf are patriots who fight to protect and save Quelthalas, that is their reason for existing.

You're naive if you can't see that this is Blizzard's way of answering the complaints and get rid of Anduin once and for all.

Turalyon and Alleria now lead the Alliance.

[Ardenaso]

Dalaran is an Alliance kingdom letting Blood elves to be part of it.

Quel'Thalas has - and will have - to do the same.

As an Alliance Thalassian, I have every right to return to Silvermoon, my homeland.

Dalaran and Silvermoon never pledged to the Grand Alliance; the Alliance lost their legitimate claims for Quel'thalas after they abandoned the Blood Elves and left them for dead there at the mercy of the Scourge and the Amani

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Turalyon and Alleria now lead the Alliance.

I don't mind this tbh, perhaps the Alliance can now be something other than a goody-goody reactive sitting duck

[elbleuet]

Dalaran and Silvermoon never pledged to the Grand Alliance; the Alliance lost their legitimate claims for Quel'thalas after they abandoned the Blood Elves and left them for dead there at the mercy of the Scourge and the Amani

Dalaran joined the Alliance after the purge of Dalaran and never left it.

The Council of six which rules Dalaran is full of Alliance members. It was later confirmed by Blizzard.

[username993720]

And then 5 days later blizzard announces playable high elves as a high elf faction.

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@Tanaria

The four playable elf races or should I say elf factions - are basically the same as if we had Amani, Drakkkari, Gurubashi and Zandalari trolls available. Their intense player focus has enlarged them into something more that what they are in the eyes of the fans of these factions.

They are all elves. And minor variations of night elves - yes, minor. Born or made from the arcane essence of the well of eternity reshaped from the original troll form - all of them have the affinity to magic because of this - some groups, like the original northern kaldorei ignore this more so than others - well at least till cataclysm when they had it banned to prevent the legions return, but lifted it because they needed all the tricks they had to defend against horde attacks - but they all have it, whether they pay attention to it or not.


They also all love nature, again some groups moreso than others, i mean if you had to live off nature because you were too scared to use your arcane magic, you likely have a deeper appreciation than your kin who did not, still, it is intrinsic in all elves as the night elf origin shows the race quite philic towards nature which attracts Cenarius' attention. The deviations occur much later on, so the intrinsic nature love is in all - and there is evidence to show in each variation.


The current situation is political and ideological differences far more so than biological. Yes there are biological differences but very minor, they all have teh same lanky lean build, the same beauty focused appearance, same high intelligence and behaviourally and attitude wise they are also pretty much the same. What they choose to do and focus on is what varies - and is more based on school some focus on nature magic intesley, some on Elune, some on the Light, some on arcane magic, some on fel magic, some on forestry, hunting and tracking, some on fire magic, some on blood magic some on void magic .. You could merge them all into one and split them by school or profession instead - you wouldn't know the difference if it wasn't for their colouring.

They are more like nations of elves than they are species of elves, and their interactions are all convoluted because of their long history.

At this point int he game, you are picking elves based on who their firends are and what thier magic vibe is. Want nature and stars & moon arcane stuff , pick night elves. Want void and human interaction pick void elves. Want the high elf vibe but with scary horde friends, gold, light and native northern european like appearances with fire and arcane magic - pick Blood elves.. wan tthe arcane focus of the kaldorei empire but with blood elf friendship - pick nightborne.

THe niche for high elves is if you want something as close to Tolkeinesque elves as you can get, because some how all of these groups have enough twists to just not quite be it, at least not to the satisfaction of the lovers of it. Clearly if you want a look like - it's the blood elves, but that comes with bait and switch humans (forsaken) and essentially are bait and switch high elves.

Huh? Were you talking to me or Tanaria?

[Varodoc]

Dalaran and Silvermoon never pledged to the Grand Alliance; the Alliance lost their legitimate claims for Quel'thalas after they abandoned the Blood Elves and left them for dead there at the mercy of the Scourge and the Amani

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I don't mind this tbh, perhaps the Alliance can now be something other than a goody-goody reactive sitting duck

Of course. The Ren'dorei have shown to be very methodical in their approach. Not evil, mind you, but they will not shy away from using certain methods if it gets them what they want. Like when they raised Zandalari bones using the Void magic, which they used consequently to terrify and break the morale of the Zandalari defenders.

[Lionhearte0]

You have blonde haired blue eyed white skinned Elves available to both Horde and Alliance

cool story bro

can alliance get white skinned, blonde haired, blue eyed elves that dont turn into a purple lava lamp every 10 seconds in combat?

[Tanaria]

Huh? Were you talking to me or Tanaria?

Don't even think he knows, to be honest.

[FossilFree]

They should revamp both Eversong Woods and the Ghostlands, and then turn the Ghostlands into the Void Elf capital. If the factions are working together now with crossfaction, I don't think this would be unreasonable. Maybe post-WotLK Deathholme has been destroyed (since the Ghostlands are locked in the TBC era, predating the fall of the Lich King) and the Void Elves go in there, demolish the ruins, and build their new capital there. It would be especially fitting since it was the seat of Dar'Khan Drathir, who the Void Elves were researching before they got subjected to the void ritual (because Dar'Khan Drathir knew things about the void).

[TrueHorde]

10.0:
HEs⊊BEs⊆people of Quel'Thalas(led by great Regent Lord Bob)⊊people of the The Horde
VEs(led by Alleria Windrunner)⊊people of The Alliance

All that stuff about HE has become a cancer of this game,whether in terms of gameplay or lorewise.
Blizzard should solve it once and for all.

[Mace]

Huh? Were you talking to me or Tanaria?

Both. I was following your exchange on the previous 2 pages. Should have quoted a more recent response you made to him

[Varodoc]

They should revamp both Eversong Woods and the Ghostlands, and then turn the Ghostlands into the Void Elf capital. If the factions are working together now with crossfaction, I don't think this would be unreasonable. Maybe post-WotLK Deathholme has been destroyed (since the Ghostlands are locked in the TBC era, predating the fall of the Lich King) and the Void Elves go in there, demolish the ruins, and build their new capital there. It would be especially fitting since it was the seat of Dar'Khan Drathir, who the Void Elves were researching before they got subjected to the void ritual (because Dar'Khan Drathir knew things about the void).

I agree with this, however it must also be remarked that Telogrus Rift isn't their base of operations solely out of convenience, but also because it contains incredible Void knowledge, as noted by Locus-Walker himself. Between Telogrus Rift and Ghostlands, it's hard to decide which would fit more as a base of operations for the Ren'dorei.

We also come close to an expansion about the Void Lords, in which case Telogrus Rift would serve as a perfect staging ground into the Void, since it is tethering on the brink of the Void.

[FossilFree]

I agree with this, however it must also be remarked that Telogrus Rift isn't their base of operations solely out of convenience, but also because it contains incredible Void knowledge, as noted by Locus-Walker himself. Between Telogrus Rift and Ghostlands, it's hard to decide which would fit more as a base of operations for the Ren'dorei.

We also come close to an expansion about the Void Lords, in which case Telogrus Rift would serve as a perfect staging ground into the Void, since it is tethering on the brink of the Void.

I could see Telogrus becoming like the void equivalent of the Sunwell and a Ghostlands capital as the void equivalent of Silvermoon City.

[Varodoc]

I could see Telogrus becoming like the void equivalent of the Sunwell and a Ghostlands capital as the void equivalent of Silvermoon City.

Interesting, to be honest, with how much elves love their founts of magic, I think it's only a matter of time before the Ren'dorei try to create their own "Sunwell". Such a creation could serve to augment their Void powers, or it could simply be a display of pride and ambition.

[FossilFree]

Interesting, to be honest, with how much elves love their founts of magic, I think it's only a matter of time before the Ren'dorei try to create their own "Sunwell". Such a creation could serve to augment their Void powers, or it could simply be a display of pride and ambition.

A Voidwell, Shadowwell, or maybe even Starwell (like starcursed) would be pretty cool. Moonwell is of course taken already by Night Elves.

[Luck4]

This thread is a LEGEND!

Love you all!

[Varodoc]

A Voidwell, Shadowwell, or maybe even Starwell (like starcursed) would be pretty cool. Moonwell is of course taken already by Night Elves.

Ah Yes, this brings back to the discussions about how the Moon Well of the Night Warrior gave huge Void vibes, and how Elune could be linked to the Void: