Official High Elf Discussion Megathread

[Varodoc]

I think i know why High elves and Highborne didn't become playable as we know them.

No, it's because the Ren'dorei offer far more to the Alliance than the Quel'dorei, it's as simple as that.

Everything the Quel'dorei can do, the Ren'dorei can also do it, and far better and more efficiently, since they are literally superior at a biological level.

The Ren'dorei are simply a far more valuable and worthy allied race to the Alliance than Vereesa's throng.

[Ardenaso]

(with Blood Elves as a Horde Race)

not Horde, the Blood Elves and the Forsaken should've been their own faction

[username993720]

No, it's because the Ren'dorei offer far more to the Alliance than the Quel'dorei, it's as simple as that.

Everything the Quel'dorei can do, the Ren'dorei can also do it, and far better and more efficiently, since they are literally superior at a biological level.

The Ren'dorei are simply a far more valuable and worthy allied race to the Alliance than Vereesa's throng.

Okay....?
They were added because Dark elves are a common fantasy race.

[Varodoc]

Okay....?
They were added because Dark elves are a common fantasy race.

The Ren'dorei cannot be categorized actually. They have some elements of the "Dark elf" archetype but they have elements of other archetype of elves too. And, unlike many Dark elves throughout fiction, the Ren'dorei are not particularly associated to forest realm.

The Kaldorei are as much "Dark elves" as the Ren'dorei because it's such a broad category.

[MyWholeLifeIsThunder]

How would they be called then, if they were added?

High Elf *shrug emoji* because no other group calls themselves that, and they have been referred as such all this time, by pretty much everyone.

Either way, I don't care if they change their names to be honest. If they decided to drop the "High" and just refer themselves as "Elves" or take any other name I wouldn't mind.

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he's really handsome, I wish the Stormwindians were also this handsome

then you could just give them an extra body build toggle and a new half elf/high elf ear options and voila! Alliance High Elf Paladin that doesn't take away uniqueness form Blood Elves

Thank you! Man I really wish we had braids like these.

TBH it feels like more of a reach for Humans to get a half elf toggle, or half elves to become an AR of their own than class restrictions becoming less prominent.

Let's not forget that we have HE fantasy through a simple yet effective sharing of textures, anything that would require a whole new model or a new Allied Race feels very out of reach.

I don't think VE's are going to get Paladins unless the Paladin class fantasy changes, but even that feels more likely than Humans getting a new bodytype with HE options.

[username993720]

The Ren'dorei cannot be categorized actually. They have some elements of the "Dark elf" archetype but they have elements of other archetype of elves too.

Like what?

And, unlike many Dark elves throughout fiction, the Ren'dorei are not particularly associated to forest realm.

Why would dark elves be associated with forest?

The Kaldorei are as much "Dark elves" as the Ren'dorei because it's such a broad category.

The Kaldorei are actually half based on the Drow of D&D as well as the Nightborne. The other half is wood elves.

High Elf *shrug emoji* because no other group calls themselves that, and they have been referred as such all this time, by pretty much everyone.

Either way, I don't care if they change their names to be honest. If they decided to drop the "High" and just refer themselves as "Elves" or take any other name I wouldn't mind.

No. I meant their elven name. Meaning, [what]dorei?

[MyWholeLifeIsThunder]

No. I meant their elven name. Meaning, [what]dorei?

As I already said, they don't need to have a different name on Darnassian because they already have different names in common. I really don't think it's important at all that both Highborne and High Elves share the same darnassian name. Is a peculiarity that reflects on their shared heritage at most, but given that most conversations are in common as the shared language amongst races, that their common names are different is enough.

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Underwear color linked to jewelry color, as it is for LFD.

[Ardenaso]

I don't think VE's are going to get Paladins unless the Paladin class fantasy changes, but even that feels more likely than Humans getting a new bodytype with HE options.

yes the VEs shouldn't get Paladin class as it's contradictory and the "Alliance High Elf Paladin" should be just obtainable in Stormwindian Human with just an elf ear option and some extra body types; it may not be close to Blood Elves but at least it's close for the Alliance High Elf

[Rhlor]

not Horde, the Blood Elves and the Forsaken should've been their own faction

the blood elves had to be illidari. Naga, broken, blood elf and satyr

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The Ren'dorei cannot be categorized actually. They have some elements of the "Dark elf" archetype but they have elements of other archetype of elves too. And, unlike many Dark elves throughout fiction, the Ren'dorei are not particularly associated to forest realm.

The Kaldorei are as much "Dark elves" as the Ren'dorei because it's such a broad category.

Night elves are more like wood elved

[FossilFree]

yes the VEs shouldn't get Paladin class as it's contradictory and the "Alliance High Elf Paladin" should be just obtainable in Stormwindian Human with just an elf ear option and some extra body types; it may not be close to Blood Elves but at least it's close for the Alliance High Elf

I think they should get paladins, but only as Void Knights. Basically, Void Elf paladins would get a warlock green fire type deal that changes all their spells to void versions.

[Varodoc]

The Void elves absolutely can get a Void-version of Paladins.

We already know that the Twilight's Hammer Cult had Void paladins in its service. They ARE a thing.

[FossilFree]

The Void elves absolutely can get a Void-version of Paladins.

We already know that the Twilight's Hammer Cult had Void paladins in its service. They ARE a thing.

This is true.

[MyWholeLifeIsThunder]

yes the VEs shouldn't get Paladin class as it's contradictory and the "Alliance High Elf Paladin" should be just obtainable in Stormwindian Human with just an elf ear option and some extra body types; it may not be close to Blood Elves but at least it's close for the Alliance High Elf

Void Elf Paladin is highly unlikeable, buuuut I think it's more likely than Stormwindian Humans with extra body types and elf ear option. That is to say, both seem VERY unlikely to me.

Half Elf AR might bee as unlikely, but I do believe they are a good AR choice alongside Mok'nathal, and Half Elven Paladins would make 100% sense.

But if I am honest, they all seem very far on the unlikely side, yet IDK, Void Elven Paladins could be the most likely if we pair them with Class Skin concepts.

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This is true.

Stuff like these make me believe that Void Paladins as a Class Skin could very well be possible, but it would *have* to be linked to a Class Skin, because it need the explanation of being a Void Paladin, and with the current Paladin lore it doesn't really work.

So I think it's plausible, but dependent on Class Skin concepts.

[FossilFree]

Stuff like these make me believe that Void Paladins as a Class Skin could very well be possible, but it would *have* to be linked to a Class Skin, because it need the explanation of being a Void Paladin, and with the current Paladin lore it doesn't really work.

So I think it's plausible, but dependent on Class Skin concepts.

Class skins would be great, there is so much you can do with them. I hope we get at least a few before long!

[Rhlor]

This is true.

yeah voidladin!!!

[username993720]

As I already said, they don't need to have a different name on Darnassian because they already have different names in common. I really don't think it's important at all that both Highborne and High Elves share the same darnassian name. Is a peculiarity that reflects on their shared heritage at most, but given that most conversations are in common as the shared language amongst races, that their common names are different is enough.

It is important, lore-wise.

[MyWholeLifeIsThunder]

It is important, lore-wise.

Okay.

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And more stuff

[username993720]

Okay.

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Why do you think they call each elf race a different something-dorei?

[Tanaria]

Why do you think they call each elf race a different something-dorei?

I don't think it's all that important that the name is shared.

[username993720]

I don't think it's all that important that the name is shared.

I think it does.