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    Quote Originally Posted by MyWholeLifeIsThunder View Post
    I will never understand why people are baffled about other people wanting to talk about a race. We do have threads for several races, but it's always the HE thread that somehow brings up the disbelief.
    perhaps we should also tell @KayRule to apply the same energy for the Troll Race Thread, the Blood Elf Thread, and the Night Elves/Borne Thread

    maybe he can start on my Alteraci Human for the Horde thread
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    "We'll get to see some characters working together that would be previously unthinkable."
    Magister Umbric featuring in this expansion is becoming more and more likely.

    To say that Magister Umbric has a bad history with the Blood elves and the Reliquary would be an understatement. Not only he was exiled and forsaken by his own kin, but he also took part in the conflict against the Reliquary in Vol'dun and Zuldazar.

    But then, would it not be unexpected for Magister Umbric to team up with the Reliquary in 10.0? We already know that Explorer's League and Reliquary will be main factions of 10.0, and Magister Umbric has interacted a lot with the Explorer's League in BfA, in the aforementioned zones, so he has a history to accompany them in their journey.

    I truly do hope Alleria sends him to help the Explorer's League and there he goes on a questline to prove his worth once more and even work alongside the Reliquary, his former enemies, to face the dangers of the isles. I also hope they give him a unique model.

    Umbric could also take an interest in the Dracthyr. They were created by Neltharion, and given Neltharion's fate with the Void, Umbric could take an interest in that.

    I am now mildly hyped for this expansion. And since elves always excel at roasting, if Magister Umbric and the Reliquary interact a lot, things are about to get spicy.
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    I saw the news from Holinka in the MrGM interview that their broad goal is to not have race restrict classes. So looks like Void Elves eventually will get Paladins, so that access along with the High Elf customizations will allow for the closest ever High Elf Paladin on Alliance in the game. Pretty sweet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geisl View Post
    I saw the news from Holinka in the MrGM interview that their broad goal is to not have race restrict classes. So looks like Void Elves eventually will get Paladins, so that access along with the High Elf customizations will allow for the closest ever High Elf Paladin on Alliance in the game. Pretty sweet.
    I had a dream Darkfallen Night Elves would get Druid (Revendreth biome aesthetic) & Darkfallen Blood Elves would get Paladin (San'layn Bloodbearer aesthetic) when they go live. I'm manifesting it.

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    found this from the high elf discord:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ardenaso View Post
    found this from the high elf discord:

    Oh these are cute! Maybe I should do a compilation with my mogs.

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    The Alliance gets the Horde's most popular race. The Horde should get the Alliance's most popular race in return. Alteraci Humans for the Horde!

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    Looks like we are getting undead elf "dark ranger" customizations for blood, void and night elves after all.

    https://www.wowhead.com/news/dark-ra...hunters-327225

    Happy for all who wished to have their Dark Ranger fantasy available.

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    why not nightborne and forsaken

    also kinda dumb for void elves and blood elf paladins
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ardenaso View Post
    why not nightborne and forsaken

    also kinda dumb for void elves and blood elf paladins
    Nightborne were never risen as Dark Rangers, only blood elves and night elves. As for void elves, I guess they went with the reasoning they are former blood elves. I also think red eyes are cool to represent void too.

    Forsaken already have red eyes, afaik. Agree that undead blood elf paladins will be weird, they could lock this customization for them as they did for DHs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaedan View Post
    Nightborne were never risen as Dark Rangers, only blood elves and night elves.
    If Lorash can be brought back to fight again then so should be the Nightborne
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    There's no reason why a Dark ranger can't simply defect to the Ren'dorei, especially since they are led by the most famous war hero in Thalassian history.

    "Ren'dorei" as a term means "Children of the Void" and thus an undead too can be considered one if they were interested in learning the Void.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ardenaso View Post
    If Lorash can be brought back to fight again then so should be the Nightborne
    I think felborne is better for nightborne.

    I hate undead elf for blood elves ruins our lore

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhlor View Post
    I think felborne is better for nightborne.

    I hate undead elf for blood elves ruins our lore
    It ruins nothing. Dark Rangers has been with the Horde for years. Questline also implies that Darkfallen (a term used by Velonara to define undead elves) are rather part of Forsaken society, with Velonara herself being member of new Desolate Council. This customizations means that Blizzard took the easiest way to put that fantasy playable. By doing so, they opened possibilities for not just Dark Rangers, but also Darkfallen mages, rogues, warriors, etc. I predicted that this is possibility and here we are... and people seem to like it.

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    So now the Alliance also has dark rangers in Lore ??
    "If you want to play alongside High and Void elves, the Alliance is waiting for you"

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    Quote Originally Posted by elbleuet View Post
    So now the Alliance also has dark rangers in Lore ??
    Night elf dark rangers at least. At the end of Lordaeron questline, Velonara said all night elves who want to rejoin their kin are allowed to do so. Void elf dark rangers has not been adressed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elbleuet View Post
    So now the Alliance also has dark rangers in Lore ??
    Yes.

    Much like Silvermoon scholars did in the past, a group of Darkfallen have now joined the ranks of the Ren'dorei and thus Alleria Windrunner can use them in the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaedan View Post
    It ruins nothing. Dark Rangers has been with the Horde for years. Questline also implies that Darkfallen (a term used by Velonara to define undead elves) are rather part of Forsaken society, with Velonara herself being member of new Desolate Council. This customizations means that Blizzard took the easiest way to put that fantasy playable. By doing so, they opened possibilities for not just Dark Rangers, but also Darkfallen mages, rogues, warriors, etc. I predicted that this is possibility and here we are... and people seem to like it.
    I think he means that Dark Rangers and Sanlayn should've been a race toggle for Forsaken and I also have that sentiment
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ardenaso View Post
    I think he means that Dark Rangers and Sanlayn should've been a race toggle for Forsaken and I also have that sentiment
    Yes, but that would not be solution for night/void elves, who got that customizations too... It is a gameplay solution of Darkfallen elves being playable. There were other options, like their own core race, allied race, class or character customizations. I'd prefer allied race myself, but as I said, Blizzard took the road of least effort and I kind of expected that. I'd change only one thing and that would be locking this customizations for paladins too, as it is locked for DKs and DHs.

    It change no blood elf lore however, since Darkfallen are clearly part of Forsaken, confirmed by Velonara being one of the new Desolate Council.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaedan View Post
    It ruins nothing. Dark Rangers has been with the Horde for years. Questline also implies that Darkfallen (a term used by Velonara to define undead elves) are rather part of Forsaken society, with Velonara herself being member of new Desolate Council. This customizations means that Blizzard took the easiest way to put that fantasy playable. By doing so, they opened possibilities for not just Dark Rangers, but also Darkfallen mages, rogues, warriors, etc. I predicted that this is possibility and here we are... and people seem to like it.
    she says that they are rejected by quelthalas which is totally logical because quelthalas is a society of survivors of a zombie apocalypse who are constantly irradiated by light. the essence of the blood elves is survival and rebuilding quelthalas. An undead living in Lordaeron is not a blood elf. That's why it's wrong to have this customization!! if i play with a darkfallen character that starts in quelthalas the lore loses meaning

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ardenaso View Post
    I think he means that Dark Rangers and Sanlayn should've been a race toggle for Forsaken and I also have that sentiment
    this. the darkfallen are forsaken and must live with the forsaken in lordaeron and be forsaken customization. the forsaken lore is the one that has the darkfallen as part of their society not the blood elf lore. now the blood elf have undead paladin it doesn't make sense!!

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