Official High Elf Discussion Megathread

[Varodoc]

Blood elves are high elves. Period.

Good.

Then, since they are all one culture/civilization/society sharing pretty much everything, from lore, to history, to language (as you acknowledged), you won't have any problem with the Void and High Elves moving back to Quel'Thalas -their rightful homeland- (as they are all identical Elves) in Midnight.

[Rhlor]

Good.

Then, since they are all one culture/civilization/society sharing pretty much everything, from lore, to history, to language (as you acknowledged), you won't have any problem with the Void and High Elves moving back to Quel'Thalas -their rightful homeland- (as they are all identical Elves) in Midnight.

like the British and Americans but there was a war and now they are separate nations. An American and a British may be ethnic Anglo-Saxons but they belong to different nations.
The void elves now belong to their own rendorei nation in their own telogrus kingdom.

[Tikaru]

Good.

Then, since they are all one culture/civilization/society sharing pretty much everything, from lore, to history, to language (as you acknowledged), you won't have any problem with the Void and High Elves moving back to Quel'Thalas -their rightful homeland- (as they are all identical Elves) in Midnight.

I would agree to that, but we would need to find out what distance needs to be maintained between a Void Elf and the Sunwell. Since, you know, that didn't go so well when Alleria was near it...

[elbleuet]

like the British and Americans but there was a war and now they are separate nations. An American and a British may be ethnic Anglo-Saxons but they belong to different nations.
The void elves now belong to their own rendorei nation in their own telogrus kingdom.

There is no "Telogrus Kingdom" except in your mind maybe and the place is already set to explose one day.

Also there was no war between void and blood elves ..

In Midnight expansion we will return once more to Quel'Thalas and we won't move back from it.

You should accept it now or you will really be disappointed

[Rhlor]

There is no "Telogrus Kingdom" except in your mind maybe and the place is already set to explose one day.

Also there was no war between void and blood elves ..

In Midnight expansion we will return once more to Quel'Thalas and we won't move back from it.

You should accept it now or you will really be disappointed

I remember when the void elves joined the humans and fought against the blood elves in bfa.
and telogrus is their new home, a place full of void energies just the way they like it.

[Vaedan]

I would agree to that, but we would need to find out what distance needs to be maintained between a Void Elf and the Sunwell. Since, you know, that didn't go so well when Alleria was near it...

Alleria had to touch it to trigger anything. When she was in Silvermoon city, nothing happened. When she was searching for Umbric, nothing happened.

It all seem that if Void elves does not come into direct contact, everything is fine. Also note that Alleria is a bit different case then the rest of Void elves, as her transformation was fueled by absorbing fallen Naaru and void demigod. She is the most powerful void elf around, so it is not entirely clear if regular void elf would trigger same effect.

I remember when the void elves joined the humans and fought against the blood elves in bfa.
and telogrus is their new home, a place full of void energies just the way they like it.

Void elves have no King, so they can't have a kingdom. They are exiles. Being exiled does not mean you all of sudden have your own nation, quite the contrary. It is typical for banished people to keep their traditions and commemorate their homeland.

Telogrus is a place of research and so far, it does not show any quality of a city or a nation. It was never expanded beyond research center and training grounds.

[Varodoc]

like the British and Americans but there was a war and now they are separate nations. An American and a British may be ethnic Anglo-Saxons but they belong to different nations.
The void elves now belong to their own rendorei nation in their own telogrus kingdom.

This is nonsense.

There is no "Ren'dorei nation" and "Telogrus kingdom". Alleria and Umbric make it clear that they still see Quel'Thalas as their kingdom.

Imagine unironically calling one floating rock with two tents a "kingdom", genuinely hilarious.

And here we see another flip-flop of the Horde playerbase. For years, they make fun of the Void Elves for their very low numbers, often calling them the "weakest" playable race (because of their very low numbers), but now apparently they can form their own "kingdom"?

I would agree to that, but we would need to find out what distance needs to be maintained between a Void Elf and the Sunwell. Since, you know, that didn't go so well when Alleria was near it...

Yeah, maybe don't invite Alleria to the Sunwell if she's so dangerous. The Sunwell was fine when Alleria was visiting Silvermoon.

Also, considering how Midnight is pretty much about a large-scale Void invasion of Quel'Thalas, the Sunwell is doomed either way.

[Rhlor]

This is nonsense.

There is no "Ren'dorei nation" and "Telogrus kingdom". Alleria and Umbric make it clear that they still see Quel'Thalas as their kingdom.

Imagine unironically calling one floating rock with two tents a "kingdom", genuinely hilarious.

And here we see another flip-flop of the Horde playerbase. For years, they make fun of the Void Elves for their very low numbers, often calling them the "weakest" playable race (because of their very low numbers), but now apparently they can form their own "kingdom"?



Yeah, maybe don't invite Alleria to the Sunwell if she's so dangerous. The Sunwell was fine when Alleria was visiting Silvermoon.

Also, considering how Midnight is pretty much about a large-scale Void invasion of Quel'Thalas, the Sunwell is doomed either way.

Vatican City is an independent state although it is very small

[Varodoc]

Vatican City is an independent state although it is very small

I'll pretend that you never compared Vatican City to two tents on an asteroid.

Horde players cannot surprise me anymore.

[Rhlor]

I'll pretend that you never compared Vatican City to two tents on an asteroid.

Horde players cannot surprise me anymore.

What I'm saying is that Telogrus is their new independent state, they should start building their buildings there.

[Varodoc]

What I'm saying is that Telogrus is their new independent state, they should start building their buildings there.

You don't know what a state is.

[Vaedan]

What I'm saying is that Telogrus is their new independent state, they should start building their buildings there.

This is just your interpretation. Nowhere in the game or any other canon material is stated that void elves founded a new state/kingdom and formed new nation.

The closest thing any void elf ever said about their nationality and homeland they imagine for themselves, is that they want to bring Silvermoon under Alliance banner back in BfA.

[Rhlor]

This is just your interpretation. Nowhere in the game or any other canon material is stated that void elves founded a new state/kingdom and formed new nation.

The closest thing any void elf ever said about their nationality and homeland they imagine for themselves, is that they want to bring Silvermoon under Alliance banner back in BfA.

They have their own army, their own leaders and their own territory (telogrus).
They decided to fight a war against Quelthalas, they decided to study Darkhan's dark magic that puts the Sunwell at risk.
now they have a place to play with void.

[Vaedan]

They have their own army, their own leaders and their own territory (telogrus).
They decided to fight a war against Quelthalas, they decided to study Darkhan's dark magic that puts the Sunwell at risk.
now they have a place to play with void.

It still does not make it a kingdom. Also, they does not have their army. Quite opposite, void elves joined 7th Legion, they does not formed any ren'dorei army.

[Aucald]

What I'm saying is that Telogrus is their new independent state, they should start building their buildings there.

Telogrus doesn't strike me as a location that would support much in the way of a single permanent structure much less a settlement - the entire region is basically a hair's breadth from collapsing into the Void and being swallowed up. Telogrus is a curiosity and a place to research the Void, and little else. If the Ren'dorei want a stable location to build their own capital they'd need to look elsewhere.

[Rhlor]

Telogrus doesn't strike me as a location that would support much in the way of a single permanent structure much less a settlement - the entire region is basically a hair's breadth from collapsing into the Void and being swallowed up. Telogrus is a curiosity and a place to research the Void, and little else. If the Ren'dorei want a stable location to build their own capital they'd need to look elsewhere.

Quel'danil is a good place

[Aucald]

Quel'danil is a good place

Quel'Danil is a bit crowded, but I suppose it could work if some of its current occupants left or if the lodge was built up into something a bit more spacious and impressive. I think it would be interesting for the Ren'dorei to recover one of Azeroth's many Night Elven ruins as their base of operations - perhaps Seradane, also in the Hinterlands, or even an out-of-the-way locale like the unnamed ruins in Mannoroc Coven of Desolace.

[Enteroctopus Magnificus]

High Elves are a sub race to both Blood and Void Elves.

It's quite the opposite. In fact, I'd see High Elves as a neutral race with their own customization as well as Void Elf customization for the Alliance and Blood Elf customization for the Horde.

[Rhlor]

It's quite the opposite. In fact, I'd see High Elves as a neutral race with their own customization as well as Void Elf customization for the Alliance and Blood Elf customization for the Horde.

The devs said it years ago that the high elves are added as a playable race as customization for void elf and blood elf as wildhammer for dwarves.

[Schwert]

It's quite the opposite. In fact, I'd see High Elves as a neutral race with their own customization as well as Void Elf customization for the Alliance and Blood Elf customization for the Horde.

So, it'd be a completely redundant race?

They're a subrace.
Same with Darkfallen / San'layn.

People really need to just get over it already and just start asking for more customization for Blood / Void Elves in general.