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    Quote Originally Posted by Aucald View Post
    Quel'Danil is a bit crowded, but I suppose it could work if some of its current occupants left or if the lodge was built up into something a bit more spacious and impressive. I think it would be interesting for the Ren'dorei to recover one of Azeroth's many Night Elven ruins as their base of operations - perhaps Seradane, also in the Hinterlands, or even an out-of-the-way locale like the unnamed ruins in Mannoroc Coven of Desolace.
    Serenade is a perfect place to build a new city

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    Something I always personally thought would be really cool! (just an opinion)

    The original High Elves in Vanilla were on Night Elf Models. They look soo cool in my opinion. I really would love if these character options were available to Night Elves the same way they were given to Void Elves and even Blood Elves.



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    Figures, another bait thread about elves. When will you people learn?

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    I just joined to share it, wasn't trying to bait anything. TBH hoping Blizzard sees this someway somehow and it gets implemented. Have a great day though Arikara!

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    I hope they'll have a new animation model for Midnight, I find the current one really bad and weird.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enteroctopus Magnificus View Post
    I hope they'll have a new animation model for Midnight, I find the current one really bad and weird.
    I hate how stupidly large weapons are on male blood elves, the janky run animation - something weird happens with the shoulders, like they're running with their shoulders raised up, I dunno. Would love to see all of that worked on but I highly doubt any of it will happen. Blizzard thinks 1 new skin tone and 5 new hair colors for one race is worth multiple blue posts. How could they possiby find time to work on animations as well? :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varodoc View Post
    I'll pretend that you never compared Vatican City to two tents on an asteroid.

    Horde players cannot surprise me anymore.
    You made me laugh so hard. I like you
    "If you want to play alongside High and Void elves, the Alliance is waiting for you"

  8. #26348
    Quote Originally Posted by elbleuet View Post
    Blood elves aren't High elves But yeah, some are still in the game.
    Blood elves are high elves. High elves were renamed into blood elves by Kaelthas Sunstrider.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ptichka View Post
    Blood elves are high elves. High elves were renamed into blood elves by Kaelthas Sunstrider.
    Okay but like, BE/HE 101: Did all the High Elves rename themselves Blood Elves?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MyWholeLifeIsThunder View Post
    Okay but like, BE/HE 101: Did all the High Elves rename themselves Blood Elves?
    They are the same race. Pledging to a different country won't change what you are.

  11. #26351
    Quote Originally Posted by Grazrug View Post
    They are the same race. Pledging to a different country won't change what you are.
    Considering the biggest divide in WoW is the Faction Divide, thinking the political differences between High Elves and Blood Elves don't matter is so lol.

    It's just wild that still to this day people like you don't seem to understand that the whole point of the appeal is the difference in political and ideological stances. Of course it might not be appealing to you, but denying it is for others is just outright ignorant or malicious.

    I just don't get why "being the same race" invalidates being interested on the differences they do have, as if politics and ideology don't matter and haven't make them, explicitly, different groups in universe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ptichka View Post
    Blood elves are high elves. High elves were renamed into blood elves by Kaelthas Sunstrider.
    So they're no longer High elves, thanks you for pointing this out.


    They're Thalassian elves, yes.

    High elves are with the Alliance. They usually build blue & gold elven buildings and hate being called "blood elves" while insisting they're not and will never be

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grazrug View Post
    They are the same race. Pledging to a different country won't change what you are.
    High elves are not a race but a political group. Same for blood elves.
    "If you want to play alongside High and Void elves, the Alliance is waiting for you"

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    The Alliance gets the Horde's most popular race. The Horde should get the Alliance's most popular race in return. Alteraci Humans for the Horde!

    I make Warcraft 3 Reforged HD custom models and I'm also an HD model reviewer.

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    With the latest development of Neutral Gilneas, there is no doubt left that the Thalassian people will reunite in Midnight, which will also mean that Quel'Thalas and whatever is left of Silvermoon will become Neutral and open up to the Alliance too.

    It is natural; it is logical. Long before Thrall was conceptualized by Metzen, long before his "New Horde" was a thing, Silvermoon was a founding member of the Alliance of Lordaeron.

    The Alliance is coming home in Midnight. The High Elves are coming home in Midnight. @elbleuet

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varodoc View Post
    With the latest development of Neutral Gilneas, there is no doubt left that the Thalassian people will reunite in Midnight, which will also mean that Quel'Thalas and whatever is left of Silvermoon will become Neutral and open up to the Alliance too.
    Where did you find your Neutral Gilneas? Is there some Horde NPCs? Or flighpath? Or maybe portal to Orgrimmar? Maybe orcs are living there?
    Or Capital of Lordaeron now neutral bc some Alliance characters help liberate it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Varodoc View Post
    It is natural; it is logical. Long before Thrall was conceptualized by Metzen, long before his "New Horde" was a thing, Silvermoon was a founding member of the Alliance of Lordaeron.
    Heh, now its your time to be disappointed. Alliance of Lordaeron is no more, more that that - Lordaeron and Quel'Thalas are in Horde now.
    There is Grand Alliance - Stormwind, Gilneas, Kul-Tiras, Khaz-Modan and NE with draenei. They are not the same. And Grand Alliance have no home in Quel'Thalas.

    Quote Originally Posted by Varodoc View Post
    The Alliance is coming home in Midnight. The High Elves are coming home in Midnight.
    And by current development - Alliance comes, Alliance helps, "ok Alliance, thx, see you, have a nice day" and then Alliance fly away. "Its not ours victory to celebrate". /s

    And btw High Elves are home - real citizens of Quel'Thalas, not Dalaran outcasts and tentacle exiles. Maybe they will be allowed to build a hat or two for them in Ghostlands or near Zul'Aman. But real High elves - with name of Blood Elves will have Silvermoon, will have Quel'Danas and all the way to at least Ban'dinoriel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dancaris View Post
    Where did you find your Neutral Gilneas? Is there some Horde NPCs? Or flighpath? Or maybe portal to Orgrimmar? Maybe orcs are living there?
    Or Capital of Lordaeron now neutral bc some Alliance characters help liberate it?



    Heh, now its your time to be disappointed. Alliance of Lordaeron is no more, more that that - Lordaeron and Quel'Thalas are in Horde now.
    There is Grand Alliance - Stormwind, Gilneas, Kul-Tiras, Khaz-Modan and NE with draenei. They are not the same. And Grand Alliance have no home in Quel'Thalas.


    And by current development - Alliance comes, Alliance helps, "ok Alliance, thx, see you, have a nice day" and then Alliance fly away. "Its not ours victory to celebrate". /s

    And btw High Elves are home - real citizens of Quel'Thalas, not Dalaran outcasts and tentacle exiles. Maybe they will be allowed to build a hat or two for them in Ghostlands or near Zul'Aman. But real High elves - with name of Blood Elves will have Silvermoon, will have Quel'Danas and all the way to at least Ban'dinoriel.
    Wrong, Metzen stated that the Alliance of Lordaeron and the Grand Alliance are one and the same.

    It really shows that you have never played Alliance.

    So this is the Alliance of Lordaeron symbol:




    And this is the WoW Alliance (aka Alliance of Lordaeron)'s symbol:






    Are they the same Alliance? Gee, I wonder, it's truly a mystery. /s

    The Alliance Elves (Alleria, Vereesa, Umbric, Auric Sunchaser, and so on) are simply those who remained loyal until the very end to their allegiance, instead of throwing it all in the trash can at the first test of loyalty.

    Fun fact: Alleria (WC2:BtDP) and Vereesa (Day of the Dragon) predate Sylvanas (WCIII: ROC) and Kael'Thas (WC3: TFT). Sylvanas and Kael'Thas are NOT the OGs of Quel'Thalas; it is Alleria and Vereesa. The Alliance has the OGs.

    World of Warcraft: Midnight, the Homecoming.

    As for Gilneas, it is Neutral. Play the questline.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Varodoc View Post
    Wrong, Metzen stated that the Alliance of Lordaeron and the Grand Alliance are one and the same.
    And by chance you have proof of that? Or headcanon? Is Dark Horde is the same as new one? Or is Night Elf lands - Zin'Azshari empire?
    And why there is no Arathi Empire? Its same predecessor organization as Alliance of Lordaeron.

    Quote Originally Posted by Varodoc View Post
    It really shows that you have never played Alliance.
    And you didn't answer - is it count that Capital of Lordaeron is neutral if some Alliance folks help cleanse it? So if not - Gilneas is and will be Grand Alliance territory. Overwise dont expect full houses of exiles and betrayers in Silvermoon.

    Quote Originally Posted by Varodoc View Post
    World of Warcraft: Midnight, the Homecoming.
    Yep, Horde get new and shiny capital, Alliance can watch.
    Quote Originally Posted by Varodoc View Post
    As for Gilneas, it is Neutral. Play the questline.
    That is not the answer. I repeat - Is there some Horde NPCs? Or flighpath? Or maybe portal to Orgrimmar? Maybe orcs are living there? Or maybe Forsaken are still "living" there? Oh yea, they are not. Or Amirdrassil have it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dancaris View Post
    And by chance you have proof of that? Or headcanon? Is Dark Horde is the same as new one? Or is Night Elf lands - Zin'Azshari empire?
    And why there is no Arathi Empire? Its same predecessor organization as Alliance of Lordaeron.
    Metzen's Word (aka Word of God) > Your headcanon.

    Also funny how Blood Elf fans blame the WoW Alliance for Garithos or Arthas, while simultaneously claiming that they are not the same Alliance as WC3.

    Yep, Horde get new and shiny capital, Alliance can watch.
    If you seriously believe this, well, what can I say? Prepare to be disappointed. There's really nothing much left to say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varodoc View Post
    Metzen's Word (aka Word of God) > Your headcanon.

    Also funny how Blood Elf fans blame the WoW Alliance for Garithos or Arthas, while simultaneously claiming that they are not the same Alliance as WC3.
    In perfect world - you can bring quote of it, if you so sure about that. Without it - Alliance of Lordaeron was predecessor organization to Grand Alliance, same as Arathi Empire was predecessor to Alliance of Lordaeron.

    Quote Originally Posted by Varodoc View Post
    If you seriously believe this, well, what can I say? Prepare to be disappointed. There's really nothing much left to say.
    I believe that Silvermoon comes to Alliance is your headcanon, there is almost zero info about expansion that comes after next one. Will Alliance help blood elfs in their Silvermoon? Sure. Will it cause blood elves "confess" (its Alliance that must do it) and go to Alliance, dye roofs blue and kick all Horde members from city? Guess that, how about no? Blood Elves was, is and will be in Horde until the Horde will be disbanded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dancaris View Post
    In perfect world - you can bring quote of it, if you so sure about that. Without it - Alliance of Lordaeron was predecessor organization to Grand Alliance, same as Arathi Empire was predecessor to Alliance of Lordaeron.


    I believe that Silvermoon comes to Alliance is your headcanon, there is almost zero info about expansion that comes after next one. Will Alliance help blood elfs in their Silvermoon? Sure. Will it cause blood elves "confess" (its Alliance that must do it) and go to Alliance, dye roofs blue and kick all Horde members from city? Guess that, how about no? Blood Elves was, is and will be in Horde until the Horde will be disbanded.
    I do not agree with all Varodoc said (we know both Gilneas and Bel'Ameth aren't neutral).

    But yeah, ofc Silvermoon will go neutral.

    Blood elves will always be a core Horde race. But Silvermoon as a Horde capital will not last forever.

    Void and High elves are exiled for now.

    But when they'll fight for Quel'Thalas, do not expect them to leave just after.
    "If you want to play alongside High and Void elves, the Alliance is waiting for you"

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