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    Quote Originally Posted by Evilfish View Post
    You are making this up.

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    Leaving aside the fact that is a starting zone for a Horde race and a Horde city. Not an ironic faction city like Gilneas or Blahblahnelf but an actual Horde city, keeping in mind that also the Horde didn't get diddly shit for a while now, no new Undead city, not even a measly neutral Goblin city, I'm pretty sure they are done giving the Alliance stuff.

    You people are lying to yourselves but hey, nobody is stopping you from doing that. Just wish you'd stop lying to everyone else.
    So you believe Blizzard's gonna update Quel'Thalas just for Horde fanboys ? Hahaha. You're gonna get the Dalaran treatment and you're not ready
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    Quote Originally Posted by elbleuet View Post
    So you believe Blizzard's gonna update Quel'Thalas just for Horde fanboys ? Hahaha. You're gonna get the Dalaran treatment and you're not ready
    Yeah, actually. What you think they only update crap for the Alliance fanboys? Belfs can't get their city updated without having to whore it out to the Alliance? Where does this entitlement come from?

    You people are way too obsessed with this. You worked yourselves through several stages of hype based on nothing other than delusion. Look, at best you'll get access to the Sunwell zone, not the belf city. At best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evilfish View Post
    Yeah, actually. What you think they only update crap for the Alliance fanboys? Belfs can't get their city updated without having to whore it out to the Alliance? Where does this entitlement come from?
    Actually ? It will be updated for both Alliance and Horde so yeah it will be neutral.


    Quote Originally Posted by Evilfish View Post
    You people are way too obsessed with this. You worked yourselves through several stages of hype based on nothing other than delusion. Look, at best you'll get access to the Sunwell zone, not the belf city. At best.

    Blood elf city will either be shared or destroyed.

    As I said, you're gonna get the Dalaran treatment. Be ready
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evilfish View Post
    Leaving aside the fact that is a starting zone for a Horde race and a Horde city. Not an ironic faction city like Gilneas or Blahblahnelf but an actual Horde city, keeping in mind that also the Horde didn't get diddly shit for a while now, no new Undead city, not even a measly neutral Goblin city, I'm pretty sure they are done giving the Alliance stuff.

    You people are lying to yourselves but hey, nobody is stopping you from doing that. Just wish you'd stop lying to everyone else.
    I expect blizz to be lazy about it, it is easier to make it all accessible to both and I fully expect them to instance the belf starting zone instead of reworking it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elbleuet View Post
    Actually ? It will be updated for both Alliance and Horde so yeah it will be neutral.





    Blood elf city will either be shared or destroyed.

    As I said, you're gonna get the Dalaran treatment. Be ready
    Where does that rule come from? It gets updated as a zone that is on the Horde faction. Pretending it's gonna be neutral based on noting is a major cope.

    And what's gonna happen is that the belf city is gonna get updated and that's it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Combatbutler View Post
    I expect blizz to be lazy about it, it is easier to make it all accessible to both and I fully expect them to instance the belf starting zone instead of reworking it.
    No, you want them to. Does not mean they will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Combatbutler View Post
    I expect blizz to be lazy about it, it is easier to make it all accessible to both and I fully expect them to instance the belf starting zone instead of reworking it.
    Well, Exile's Reach is standard leveling zone anyway. Considering other starting zones are frozen in time (most of them are in Cata time), I think they will instance old version of Quel'thalas and Silvermoon and let us visit it through bronze dragons.

    I also think Silvermoon available for both Alliance and Horde is more likely, because it seems Blizzard stopped doing faction specific hubs after BfA. It is just more efficient for them to do one neutral hub instead of two separate faction based hubs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evilfish View Post
    Where does that rule come from? It gets updated as a zone that is on the Horde faction. Pretending it's gonna be neutral based on noting is a major cope.

    And what's gonna happen is that the belf city is gonna get updated and that's it.
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    So an entire, iconic zone from upcoming expansion's gonna get updated just for you Blood elf fanboy ?

    Gilneas city has been made neutral (lmao), right now Horde and Alliance means nothing and you still think you can save Silvermoon from neutrality ?



    All elven tribes will be reunited.

    That means High and void elves will actually return to Quel'Thalas in order to defend it.

    If they do, that means Quel'Thalas will be neutral and shared by Horde and Alliance. Silvermoon playing Dalaran's role for both faction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evilfish View Post
    No, you want them to. Does not mean they will.
    I honestly don't really care, it is just what I expect to happen. Since I have toons on both sides I already have access to pretty much everything so I have nothing to gain here.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vaedan View Post
    I also think Silvermoon available for both Alliance and Horde is more likely, because it seems Blizzard stopped doing faction specific hubs after BfA. It is just more efficient for them to do one neutral hub instead of two separate faction based hubs.
    I think it is just down to blizz not willing to put in the extra work for payoff, if there is an easier way to to reach a destination I fully expect blizz to take it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by elbleuet View Post
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    So an entire, iconic zone from upcoming expansion's gonna get updated just for you Blood elf fanboy ?

    Gilneas city has been made neutral (lmao), right now Horde and Alliance means nothing and you still think you can save Silvermoon from neutrality ?



    All elven tribes will be reunited.

    That means High and void elves will actually return to Quel'Thalas in order to defend it.

    If they do, that means Quel'Thalas will be neutral and shared by Horde and Alliance. Silvermoon playing Dalaran's role for both faction.
    Entire iconic zone for the Horde. I think you are under the wrong idea that because you whined a lot for Alliance belfs and blizzard threw threw you a bone, you are entitled to everything and those Horde players you call Horde fanboys are 2nd class citizens. Let me put it simply for you. That is a Horde zone, it's a Horde zone where the belf race starts and establishes their identity and place in Warcraft. How you figured they are just gonna give that to you people, I'm sure I don't know, but they won't.

    Gilneas city is not the same as Silvermoon city. Gilneas city was never an actual faction city. It was an instanced starting zone for the Worgen. So again, it's beyond me how you think you'll get Silvermoon using that logic is again, unknown to me, because logically if there was an equivalent for that it would be Kezan the Goblin starting zone. It's your delusions speaking here.

    Here's what's really gonna happen. Silvermoon will get updated, so will Bloodmyst isle and the Exodar, eventually. They are not gonna rob the Horde of one of their cities, no matter how much you'd like that. The shared area will probably be the Sunwell isle, which was shared before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evilfish View Post
    Entire iconic zone for the Horde. I think you are under the wrong idea that because you whined a lot for Alliance belfs and blizzard threw threw you a bone, you are entitled to everything and those Horde players you call Horde fanboys are 2nd class citizens. Let me put it simply for you. That is a Horde zone, it's a Horde zone where the belf race starts and establishes their identity and place in Warcraft. How you figured they are just gonna give that to you people, I'm sure I don't know, but they won't.

    Gilneas city is not the same as Silvermoon city. Gilneas city was never an actual faction city. It was an instanced starting zone for the Worgen. So again, it's beyond me how you think you'll get Silvermoon using that logic is again, unknown to me, because logically if there was an equivalent for that it would be Kezan the Goblin starting zone. It's your delusions speaking here.

    Here's what's really gonna happen. Silvermoon will get updated, so will Bloodmyst isle and the Exodar, eventually. They are not gonna rob the Horde of one of their cities, no matter how much you'd like that. The shared area will probably be the Sunwell isle, which was shared before.
    lol I saw this thread and saw the one man army defending whether the Blood elf city will become neutral or not after the War Within, got news for you buddy you lost this one, it's blatantly obvious the city will be neutral just like the Night elven one in DF, why even bother denying it.

    I say this as someone who doesnt play the game anymore, I mostly hang out in Politics or the Video Game discussion part of the forum but seeing this level of denial made me chuckle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiria View Post
    lol I saw this thread and saw the one man army defending whether the Blood elf city will become neutral or not after the War Within, got news for you buddy you lost this one, it's blatantly obvious the city will be neutral just like the Night elven one in DF, why even bother denying it.

    I say this as someone who doesnt play the game anymore, I mostly hang out in Politics or the Video Game discussion part of the forum but seeing this level of denial made me chuckle.
    It's obvious in your delusions only. The nelf city isn't neutral, Horde can enter it but there are no services provided for them. The nelf city isn't a city, it's a settlement that was created recently, it's more of a base right now. How you people think that justifies taking an iconic Horde city and they'll make it neutral again, must come from your delusions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiria View Post
    lol I saw this thread and saw the one man army defending whether the Blood elf city will become neutral or not after the War Within, got news for you buddy you lost this one, it's blatantly obvious the city will be neutral just like the Night elven one in DF, why even bother denying it.

    I say this as someone who doesnt play the game anymore, I mostly hang out in Politics or the Video Game discussion part of the forum but seeing this level of denial made me chuckle.
    Actually, this is rather funny because its the other way around. This thread is really bad at showcasing that, because its the same people shouting here, which are.. maybe two people. That is that one army you are talking about and those are no blood elf fans.

    I think its actually safe enough to say, most blood elf fans arent really that worried perse. Its mostly void/high elf fans looking for weird ways to make sure THEY can enter the city.
    Which shouldnt be the prio here at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evilfish View Post
    Entire iconic zone for the Horde. I think you are under the wrong idea that because you whined a lot for Alliance belfs and blizzard threw threw you a bone, you are entitled to everything and those Horde players you call Horde fanboys are 2nd class citizens. Let me put it simply for you. That is a Horde zone, it's a Horde zone where the belf race starts and establishes their identity and place in Warcraft. How you figured they are just gonna give that to you people, I'm sure I don't know, but they won't.
    Blizzard threw YOU a bone instead

    Remember when you Blood elves fanboys kept saying Alliance would never have blond haired and blue-eyed elves? Haha

    Or that Alleria would OBVIOUSLY be neutral by the time she returns ?

    Also, Dalaran was an iconic zone for the Alliance too. It didn't bother you to use it as a capital city as I recalled

    Here's what's really gonna happen. Silvermoon will get updated, so will Bloodmyst isle and the Exodar, eventually. They are not gonna rob the Horde of one of their cities, no matter how much you'd like that. The shared area will probably be the Sunwell isle, which was shared before.
    Yeah Of course it will happen like that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evilfish View Post
    It's obvious in your delusions only. The nelf city isn't neutral, Horde can enter it but there are no services provided for them. The nelf city isn't a city, it's a settlement that was created recently, it's more of a base right now. How you people think that justifies taking an iconic Horde city and they'll make it neutral again, must come from your delusions.

    "Gilneas yeah it's neutral for reasons and it's fair"
    "Bel'Ameth... Yeah we comitted Genocide on Night elves but here's the reason why it's neutral :"
    "Dalaran ? yeah it's neutral and it is normal for us to return after the Kirin Tor tried to emprison us"
    "DON'T TOUCH SILVERMOON BECAUZ OF MY REASONS"

    Double standards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by elbleuet View Post
    Blizzard threw YOU a bone instead

    Remember when you Blood elves fanboys kept saying Alliance would never have blond haired and blue-eyed elves? Haha

    Or that Alleria would OBVIOUSLY be neutral by the time she returns ?

    Also, Dalaran was an iconic zone for the Alliance too. It didn't bother you to use it as a capital city as I recalled



    Yeah Of course it will happen like that
    I remember saying a long time ago, I think thread I think, look it up, that you people, the ones who have a boner for robbing the Horde of belfs will never stop demanding crap. I said it before velfs. I said if you give them the model as they want it they'll ask for more and more, eventually they will ask for Silvermoon and after that demand the Horde be kicked out of it. And here we are, with you pretending they'll give you Silvermoon cause what was your logic? That a visual upgrade is too good for us Horde fanboys and obviously by this reply that you get everything you demand. But what you demand has become very unreasonable and because Blizzard gave you what you asked for in the past you imagine you get to demand anything.

    And again, Gilneas isn't a faction city no more than Kezan is. You want equal standards, fine, make Kezan a neutral zone. Oh wait, it's not even in the world. Also feel free to ask Blizzard to creat a new city for the Forsaken which on the subject of double standards, don't have a city or even a settlement like blahblahnefl and let the Alliance walk in it. Dalaran was also not an Alliance city. It was part of the Lordaeron Alliance which is long gone. Silvermoon is Horde, it has been Horde since the start of the game. So I have no idea what double standards you are talking about. It's those delusions again, I believe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by elbleuet View Post
    Blizzard threw YOU a bone instead

    Remember when you Blood elves fanboys kept saying Alliance would never have blond haired and blue-eyed elves? Haha
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    And this is the reason people dont like void elf fans.

    You should have seen the forums at the time when this happends. Its this exact jelly behaviour, which you show now here. The "ha ha" describes exactly what those fans were and are about. The funny part is that void elves will always be the secondhand high elves, so you still lost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alanar View Post
    And this is the reason people dont like void elf fans.

    You should have seen the forums at the time when this happends. Its this exact jelly behaviour, which you show now here. The "ha ha" describes exactly what those fans were and are about. The funny part is that void elves will always be the secondhand high elves, so you still lost.
    You were just proved wrong by Blizzard after all those years and that's it.
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    The redesigned Silvermoon will likely go the Suramar route in that most of it will be an adventuring area with hostile mobs. Maybe a portion of it will be cordoned to serve as a hub, neutral or otherwise, or we will evacuate the sin'dorei to a crapsack camp outside the city.

    As for what will happen to Silvermoon in-lore by the end of Midnight... That's really all up in the air. Maybe Horde will retake it. Maybe Alliance carves out a foothold of their own. Maybe the Void beats us and no one gets to have the cake. But I'm fairly confident that in-game the city will remain in an arrested state with patched-in features as they come, Suramar-style.

    The original zones aren't going anywhere, they'll be one Zidormi finger snap away if you want to visit them.
    Now you see it. Now you don't.

    But was where Dalaran?

  18. #26458
    Quote Originally Posted by elbleuet View Post
    You were just proved wrong by Blizzard after all those years and that's it.
    You were proved? Not sure what you are saying, but its likely a no. Also because the actual real high elves in blood elves had exactly if not better the same costomization options. So still void elves lost in the end.

    basically you are admitting here how I described void/high elf fans. Which you are part of as it shows here. Disgusting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evilfish View Post
    I remember saying a long time ago, I think thread I think, look it up, that you people, the ones who have a boner for robbing the Horde of belfs will never stop demanding crap. I said it before velfs. I said if you give them the model as they want it they'll ask for more and more, eventually they will ask for Silvermoon and after that demand the Horde be kicked out of it. And here we are, with you pretending they'll give you Silvermoon cause what was your logic? That a visual upgrade is too good for us Horde fanboys and obviously by this reply that you get everything you demand. But what you demand has become very unreasonable and because Blizzard gave you what you asked for in the past you imagine you get to demand anything.

    And again, Gilneas isn't a faction city no more than Kezan is. You want equal standards, fine, make Kezan a neutral zone. Oh wait, it's not even in the world. Also feel free to ask Blizzard to creat a new city for the Forsaken which on the subject of double standards, don't have a city or even a settlement like blahblahnefl and let the Alliance walk in it. Dalaran was also not an Alliance city. It was part of the Lordaeron Alliance which is long gone. Silvermoon is Horde, it has been Horde since the start of the game. So I have no idea what double standards you are talking about. It's those delusions again, I believe.
    1) No one cares about Kezan (for real)
    2) High elves were always an Alliance race even if Silvermoon left by the time of the 2nd war. In Vanilla, they were in Theramore, Stormwind, the Hinterlands, the Plaguelands etc ... Long before Horde blood elves were a thing
    3) Dalaran returned to the Alliance in MoP.

    And of course, as an Alliance Thalassian elf, I can't wait to return to neutral Silvermoon because, lorewise, it is my homeland too and I can't wait to defend it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zuben View Post
    The redesigned Silvermoon will likely go the Suramar route in that most of it will be an adventuring area with hostile mobs. Maybe a portion of it will be cordoned to serve as a hub, neutral or otherwise, or we will evacuate the sin'dorei to a crapsack camp outside the city.

    As for what will happen to Silvermoon in-lore by the end of Midnight... That's really all up in the air. Maybe Horde will retake it. Maybe Alliance carves out a foothold of their own. Maybe the Void beats us and no one gets to have the cake. But I'm fairly confident that in-game the city will remain in an arrested state with patched-in features as they come, Suramar-style.

    The original zones aren't going anywhere, they'll be one Zidormi finger snap away if you want to visit them.
    Its not even sure if we can say "retake" for as far as we know, nothing changes to the way the city works for the horde/blood elf. The outside skirts and areas are most likely turned into quests areas as you said. For the city itself idk.. maybe the sunwell gets blasted, but the majority of why there is conflict there, will most likely be on quel'danas and outskirts. There is no hint or anything that this will take place directly IN the city or what ever.

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