Official High Elf Discussion Megathread

[elbleuet]

Night elves got a brand new tree and hub the Horde will leave from peacefully after the expansion is over and now Tyrande event alks about regrowing Teldrassil so nothing will be lost. No and lackey of Vereesa or Umbric should be killed on sight for the countless blood elves they killed with glee.


We are not going to roll over just because a small loud part of the high elf fans demand all nice things in the elf story for themselves. Deal with it.

You're going to have a nice updated Silvermoon with new Lore about High, blood and void elves. It's going to be awesome

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Haha yes it does, because you simply dont get it and your undestanding of how to define them is simply incorrect.

Good job at failing to read again. Go read about high elves if you are unsure and dont bother me with your bs.

Yes sweety we will meet again at Midnight expansion announcement when you will be lamenting because I was right and you were simply blind

[Grazrug]

You're going to have a nice updated Silvermoon with new Lore about High, blood and void elves. It's going to be awesome

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Yes sweety we will meet again at Midnight expansion announcement when you will be lamenting because I was right and you were simply blind

It will be a defining moment for Blizzard if they actually care about blood elf lore as it is or poop all over it just to appease a handful of players who are emotionally hurt by the idea not having access to Silvermoon. And if the last happens it will bomb cuz the blood elf community will simply leave. We have no connections to Alleria and all her lackies and Metzen should stop pretending we do.

[Alanar]

Yes sweety we will meet again at Midnight expansion announcement when you will be lamenting because I was right and you were simply blind

Seriouesly, stop calling me sweety idiot.

This only makes you look really arrogant and wrong. You were never right here.

You cant even read or accept canon lore I had to explain to you. No one here is taking you serious if you hadnt noticed. You are lucky I was patient enough to explain it to you and then you show this behaviour. You really dont come across as a very smart person.

[Evilfish]

You're going to have a nice updated Silvermoon with new Lore about High, blood and void elves. It's going to be awesome

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Yes sweety we will meet again at Midnight expansion announcement when you will be lamenting because I was right and you were simply blind

Oh yeah, I can't want to see how Blizzard is gonna sell that one. Having the Horde players help the nelfs is one thing, since the Horde isn't oficially invovled in the nelf tree drama.

Oh look, the Helfs and Velfs are back, you know the guys who indiscriminately killed belfs, let's pretend that didn't happen and be bffs. Here's half of the belf city.

No really after the shit they got with the nelf tree drama and the crappy tentative at an Avengers-Unite moment, I'd love to see how they sell this to the rest of the non-helf maniacs who don't care about story if it means getting a chance at robbing the belfs some more.

[Alanar]

I know, but you dont. Thats not how it works silly.

High elf is the race,. Blood elves are simply high elves renamed. That name change didnt suddenly change that race. For example, Night elves are not the same elven race as High elf, but they are all elves. They would simply be called night elves or kaldorei and not just the word elf. That is not how it's defined or called, so no.

Your arrogance is once again showing, because you clearly misunderstood what was said and again you didnt read the link I gave you, but still push on in what you believe is the truth. Since you are incompetent to do it yourself il give you a headstart right here;

However, a few high elves did not rename themselves blood elves. High elves and blood elves are physiologically the same race, and the difference between high and blood elves is only political.[13]
The blood elves (or sin'dorei, "children of the blood" in Thalassian — pronounced [ˈsiːndɔraɪ], [siːnˈdɔraɪ] or [siːndɔreɪ]) are high elves who changed their name after the Scourge invasion of Quel'Thalas.[5]

So take a look, and you can learn more about the race:, because you need it clearly

https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/High_elf

This post went over your head big time, so Il post it again for you. @elbleuet.

Dont try to say, this doesnt contradict you, because it absolutely does. Again you were the one stating blood elves arent high elves. High elves in todays world are playable end of story. Also elf defining /palm. You couldnt be more wrong.

I expect another weird response, but I tried to help you, but you are a lost cause..you simply dont understand how it works.

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Of course I'm a real blood elf fan and @Alanar will back me up on that. I'm just used to being disappointed and getting the worst.
I do have low expectations, so yes - the way I am, I've just accepted that Silvermoon will be shared. If in 5 years, that doesn't happen and I will take great pleasure in you telling me how wrong I was and I'd be elated to have been so wrong.

I desperately want to be wrong about this.

@Alanar knows how much of a Blood Elf fan I really am. The threads during the latter part of @ravenmoon and his time here were dedicated to demanding Blood Elves and Nightborne be removed from Quel'Thalas and Suramar and those go to the Alliance. I never backed down on how much I didn't want that.

Yes, I can say that is true.

Tho the era of Ravenmoon and hes little brother mace werent exactly fair or usefull debates. This thread has the same feeling to it and its mostly the same people. I am not calling it high elf problem anymore, that topic is luckily dead.

Its sad, but I share the same feeling of being disappointed. I am just not caring so much anymore, probably because I got older. The only things I am lately going for are confirmed items. Hence I cant really go and play along these reaching speculations.

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Coming from a guy who stated how he loves Warcraft, I found Metzen's phrasing of "tribes" bizarre. When have we ever referred to elven factions as "tribes"?? Either he had a brainfart during the presentation, or there is indeed something more to the peculiar phrasing.

Though I'm personally bending towards it being a brainfart.

Because he should and absolutely know the nations arent called tribes hence I thought it was weird and maybe he isnt talking about our known elven groups. I dont think they are scattered, they all have their own thing, except void elves who are simply underdeveloped.

Maybe it was a brainfart, idk.. it was weird.

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The fact is we know very little about that expansion. Way too little to go on a tirade about how the Alliance will get to be in a Horde city, aside knowing next to nothing and that notion being incredibly stupid, there's still an expansion that has to unfold before us to get to that point. So it's mostly speculation and I am not that much into speculating.

This. We practically know nothing, but that doesnt stop them it seems.

[elbleuet]

Oh yeah, I can't want to see how Blizzard is gonna sell that one. Having the Horde players help the nelfs is one thing, since the Horde isn't oficially invovled in the nelf tree drama.

Oh look, the Helfs and Velfs are back, you know the guys who indiscriminately killed belfs, let's pretend that didn't happen and be bffs. Here's half of the belf city.

No really after the shit they got with the nelf tree drama and the crappy tentative at an Avengers-Unite moment, I'd love to see how they sell this to the rest of the non-helf maniacs who don't care about story if it means getting a chance at robbing the belfs some more.

You know... that's how things work since ... Vanilla.

United for the greater good and sharing a common cause. That's how neutrality is defined in WoW.

Silvermoon will face a great danger. So Blood elves will open Silvermoon's doors to the Alliance and the Alliance will help the blood elves and the Horde to save Silvermoon.

In return, Silvermoon will turn neutral and Alliance elves will be allowed to defend their sacred homeland and stay afterwards.

[Evilfish]

You know... that's how things work since ... Vanilla.

United for the greater good and sharing a common cause. That's how neutrality is defined in WoW.

Silvermoon will face a great danger. So Blood elves will open Silvermoon's doors to the Alliance and the Alliance will help the blood elves and the Horde to save Silvermoon.

In return, Silvermoon will turn neutral and Alliance elves will be allowed to defend their sacred homeland and stay afterwards.

We've been over this man. Too many times. I tell you that taking a faction city and turning it neutral hasn't happened ever, then you tell me how it's gonna happen cause Blizzard loves your whining.

[elbleuet]

We've been over this man. Too many times. I tell you that taking a faction city and turning it neutral hasn't happened ever, then you tell me how it's gonna happen cause Blizzard loves your whining.

How is that an argument ?

Before Teldrassil Blizzard never removed a capital city from the game and then it happened.

[Triceron]

We've been over this man. Too many times. I tell you that taking a faction city and turning it neutral hasn't happened ever, then you tell me how it's gonna happen cause Blizzard loves your whining.

So because they never did something before, they can't change it? That's a reaaallly good argument for a fictional game built around the collective whims of game designers.

[elbleuet]

So because they never did something before, they can't change it? That's a reaaallly good argument for a fictional game built around the collective whims of game designers.

Well said

[Alanar]

So because they never did something before, they can't change it? That's a reaaallly good argument for a fictional game built around the collective whims of game designers.

They could, but it doesn't make it more likely either. Goes both ways.

[Evilfish]

So because they never did something before, they can't change it? That's a reaaallly good argument for a fictional game built around the collective whims of game designers.

Seems to me you people think that those whims are based on your own and nobody else. They will do the least likeley thing because you want them to. But that's not gonna happen. Because it's ridiculous, overly complicated and essentially pointless, not to mention damaging. That's all I've been saying and you people cover your ears every time I said it. That's why your buddy here gets cheeky about it.

[Triceron]

Seems to me you people think that those whims are based on your own and nobody else. They will do the least likeley thing because you want them to. But that's not gonna happen. Because it's ridiculous, overly complicated and essentially pointless, not to mention damaging. That's all I've been saying and you people cover your ears every time I said it. That's why your buddy here gets cheeky about it.

The whims are of the developers, and of that we don't get to know the outcome. If you wanted to say something about their comments, then you shouldn't be denying them with equally wrong statements. Two wrongs don't make a right.

I'm not covering my ears from what you're saying. I hear it loud and clear, which is why I'm making a point that your statements are equally wrong because you don't know the whims of the developers. Just because 'it hasn't happened before' doesn't mean jack shit since no one is predicting what the developers would do or not do based on any past precedent, because it's a highly unreliable metric.

That's why we are being cheeky about your response. It isn't so much a defense of their statement, it is pointing out how you're answering using equally fallible metric.

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They could, but it doesn't make it more likely either. Goes both ways.

And I never said it makes it more likely, did I?

[Grazrug]

How is that an argument ?

Before Teldrassil Blizzard never removed a capital city from the game and then it happened.

And that change was not permanent that is the damm point.

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Seems to me you people think that those whims are based on your own and nobody else. They will do the least likeley thing because you want them to. But that's not gonna happen. Because it's ridiculous, overly complicated and essentially pointless, not to mention damaging. That's all I've been saying and you people cover your ears every time I said it. That's why your buddy here gets cheeky about it.

High elf fans like to pretend they speak for the majority when they are just a niche of the community at all.

[Alanar]

And I never said it makes it more likely, did I?

Did I claim that? No. I said it goes both ways.

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High elf fans like to pretend they speak for the majority when they are just a niche of the community at all.

They forget horde has high elves as well, so it becomes a pointlss conversation anyway. High elves are simply not the topic anymore.

[Triceron]

I said it goes both ways.

Nothing in my response implies it doesn't. All I'm pointing out is the unpredictable nature of the dev's whims; we can't say what would or wouldn't happen in the game based on any previous precedents. I'm not arguing in favour of either of these posters.

[Alanar]

Nothing in my response implies it doesn't. All I'm pointing out is the unpredictable nature of the dev's whims; we can't say what would or wouldn't happen in the game based on any previous precedents. I'm not arguing in favour of either of these posters.

I mean, we can speculate on a unpredicktable nature of those devs, but outside that, there isnt much to think they would do it in the first place. Thats my point.

I am merely saying I understand the posters, who were quick to point out, this literally never happened. We have no reason to believe they would go that route.

[Triceron]

I mean, we can speculate on a unpredicktable nature of those devs, but outside that, there isnt much to think they would do it in the first place. Thats my point.

I am merely saying I understand the posters, who were quick to point out, this literally never happened. We have no reason to believe they would go that route.

You mean other than the unification of all Elves being central to the plot? And revisiting Quel'thalas as a core point of the expansion, implied to be a major zone of importance for both factions?

Not saying it would happen either, but there is precedence for that speculation. I think bringing up the nature of the NE capital being destroyed and shifted and becoming fairly neutral to Horde is quite an adequate example of how things are quite different today.

[Alanar]

You mean other than the unification of all Elves being central to the plot? And revisiting Quel'thalas as a core point of the expansion, implied to be a major zone of importance for both factions?

Not saying it would happen either, but there is precedence for that speculation.

These are the points we know from midnight yes.

Unification, right so, talks about unification of scattered elven tribes, which is vague at best. We are not even sure if this implies our known nations. Those arent scattered perse and its kinda weird Metzen would call our known groups of elves "tribes" with that he could also mean these scattered tribes implies darkfallen, fellelves or any other sub faction. That is also part of the speculation. We need more info on this, to have a more meaninfull discussion.

Oo its not really a question wether this is a horde/allaince moment, this should be obvious that it will happen. In what form is unknown. Thats pretty much it.

Going from that... too the topic neutral is therefor quite a jump. We still have Quel'danas, which used to be the hub in bc. This could also be an option in a fully updated Quel'thalas. None of these options can be ruled out at this point, simply because we dont know.

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. I'm just used to being disappointed and getting the worst.
I do have low expectations, so yes - the way I am, I've just accepted that Silvermoon will be shared. If in 5 years, that doesn't happen and I will take great pleasure in you telling me how wrong I was and I'd be elated to have been so wrong.
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@Triceron
I have seen many blood elf fans here, but also on the officals, who dont feel heard, because void elf fans simply shout the loudest. Blood elf fans dont even want this, but are losing hope. Its sad.

[Grazrug]

These are the points we know from midnight yes.

Unification, right so, talks about unification of scattered elven tribes, which is vague at best. We are not even sure if this implies our known nations. Those arent scattered perse and its kinda weird Metzen would call our known groups of elves "tribes" with that he could also mean these scattered tribes implies darkfallen, fellelves or any other sub faction. That is also part of the speculation. We need nore info on this, to have a more serious discussion.

Oo its not really a question wether this is a horde/allaince moment, this should be obvious that it will happen. In what form is unknown. Thats pretty much it.

Going from that... too the topic neutral is therefor quite a jump. We still have Quel'danas, which used to be the hub in bc. This could also be an option in a fully updated Quel'thalas. None of these options can be ruled out at this point, simply because we dont know.

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@Triceron
I have seen many blood elf fans here, but also on the officals, who dont feel heard, because void elf fans simply shout the loudest. Blood elf fans dont even want this, but are losing hope. Its sad.

Difference is blood elf fans aren't demanding stuff as loud as possible we just used to roll with everything while being ignroed most of the time. It is a sort of entitlement to believe just because you make the most noise your ideas should be heard. Really that became the sad truth of many forums.