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    Quote Originally Posted by Zuben View Post
    I think it's fair to say Bob would consider help from Alliance elves when Void is invading his domain. It wouldn't be limited to only Quel'danas, since Void is aware how dangerous Horde and Alliance can be. It's underlined in Xal'atath's Blizzcon description. So while corrupting the Sunwell is the primary objective, pushing the sin'dorei out of the adjacent zones makes sense too.

    But let's ignore that and say Horde got Silvermoon all to itself, as a hub city. What would be a proper equivalent for the Alliance? Exodar? Makes no sense to make use of draenei stuff from the other side of the globe. Their only link is TBC, otherwise there is no special bond between them. Zul'Aman? Would fit the Horde, but for the Alliance it would just be weird. Some crapsack settlement? Wouldn't be equivalent.

    Then for optics. Alliance has allowed Horde under their roof in the past when it's been against a common enemy. Vindicaar, Bel'ameth, Gilneas. These are campaign-tied examples. Temporarily neutral. That would fit Silvermoon as well.

    Though I have a feeling Alliance elves, having a personal connection to Quel'thalas, would require a bit more than a simple thanks & goodbye. As I said, what comes by the conclusion of Midnight is all up in the air. I don't think Alliance would be openly welcomed to sin'dorei's domain, but we'll see.

    I think a Suramar-esque expanded & overhauled Silvermoon is plausible and a sensible use of resources. In that scenario I would cordon a section of the city to serve as a hub for both factions. Provided that the expanded city is large enough, there could even be two cordoned off sections so that both factions get their own, but I feel neutral is the way to go here. I don't mind having to suffer Alliance heroes if I get to see my favorite zones realized closer to what they ought to be.
    The Horde already has Silvermoon all to itself. It's a Horde city. The Sunwell is already a neutral zone. I'm not even sure why you people think Silvermoon will be the focus. The Sunwell is a separate zone and the most important thing relevant to the respective story.

    You want them to take another shit on Belfs by having them share more of their idientity for what reason exactly? And yeah, it's fair to assume that the Exodar will get updated as well eventually. We are still waiting for the Forsaken equivalent of the new nelf tree. When is that coming? Where is the equivalent of Gilneas on the Horde?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zuben View Post
    But let's ignore that and say Horde got Silvermoon all to itself, as a hub city. What would be a proper equivalent for the Alliance? Exodar? Makes no sense to make use of draenei stuff from the other side of the globe. Their only link is TBC, otherwise there is no special bond between them. Zul'Aman? Would fit the Horde, but for the Alliance it would just be weird. Some crapsack settlement?
    Exodar and the dreanei actually makes perfect sense tbh.

    Look at who was there on quel'danas and the cleansing of the sunwell back in tbc. I can totally see the exodar being fully repaired and back in action with this. And it also happends to be in dire need of an upgrade. It makes sense as an ally, but also against the void.

    Exodar in the back hovering over the waters between Quel'danas and silvermoon would make for a nice offensive if the void comes for the Sunwell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alanar View Post
    Exodar and the dreanei actually makes perfect sense tbh.

    Look at who was there on quel'danas and the cleansing of the sunwell back in tbc. I can totally see the exodar being fully repaired and back in action with this. And it also happends to be in dire need of an upgrade. It makes sense as an ally, but also against the void.

    Exodar in the back hovering over the waters between Quel'danas and silvermoon would make for a nice offensive if the void comes for the Sunwell.
    Maybe, though alternatively maybe they lean into Naaru involvement during Midnight. Draenei have the closest relation to the Naaru but otherwise underdeveloped characterizition of Naaru can be found with the Blood Elves (redemption of the sunwell) Orcs (origins of the Shadowmoon religion) and Forsaken (resurrected Calia & may be their route to more forsaken)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ersula View Post
    Maybe, though alternatively maybe they lean into Naaru involvement during Midnight. Draenei have the closest relation to the Naaru but otherwise underdeveloped characterizition of Naaru can be found with the Blood Elves (redemption of the sunwell) Orcs (origins of the Shadowmoon religion) and Forsaken (resurrected Calia & may be their route to more forsaken)
    Could be, but I was more so responding to Zuben who thought Dreanei made no sense. Which I dissagree with, because of past involvement of the Dreanei on Quel'danas.

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    Anybody who thinks Silvermoon not going neutral after they forced Gilneas to be is on some serious copium. Amirdrassil too. They've been setting these things up for a while now, and people are cheering it on and suddenly only clutching pearls when it comes to Silvermoon lmao.

    They're reuniuting the elvish clans. It's so obvious what they're doing. Draenei have nothing to do with that, and if they do, it's probably the Lightforged hanging out with the Ren'dorei. They'll have presence, but they're not going to direct the setting away from Quel'thalas.

    Silvermoon's either going to be the hub and neutral / Suramar questing style, or destroyed and the reason the "clans" need to reunite. The updated version isn't going to be Horde exclusive as literally nothing involving what we know of the story dictates it, and everything we do know of the current story is indicating neutrality / forced peace amongst player groups.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schwert View Post
    Anybody who thinks Silvermoon not going neutral after they forced Gilneas to be is on some serious copium. Amirdrassil too. They've been setting these things up for a while now, and people are cheering it on and suddenly only clutching pearls when it comes to Silvermoon lmao.

    They're reuniuting the elvish clans. It's so obvious what they're doing. Draenei have nothing to do with that, and if they do, it's probably the Lightforged hanging out with the Ren'dorei. They'll have presence, but they're not going to direct the setting away from Quel'thalas.

    Silvermoon's either going to be the hub and neutral / Suramar questing style, or destroyed and the reason the "clans" need to reunite. The updated version isn't going to be Horde exclusive as literally nothing involving what we know of the story dictates it, and everything we do know of the current story is indicating neutrality / forced peace amongst player groups.
    I think anyone who thinks anything of the sort will happen to Silvermoon is deluded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evilfish View Post
    I think anyone who thinks anything of the sort will happen to Silvermoon is deluded.
    Half of live Silvermoon is still in ruins. When that gets rebuilt for Midnight, there is no chance it won't be for High and Void Elves. Maybe they even add Kaldorei park in it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evilfish View Post
    You people got the belf model, you demanded more, you got the belf customizations, now you are demanding the belf city be turned neutral. If you were gonna get your way, which you won't, that's the next thing you'll demand.

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    Popular or not, that place is forgotten. It means nothing now. It's not a faction city, even if it should have been, but it's not. I'd rather they just update the traditional belf city and save some other city for the Suramar experience.
    Yeah because Silvermoon people is already neutral.

    High and void elves are with the Alliance.

    Alleria, one of the major figures of Silvermoon sides with the Alliance.

    And some blood elves friendly to the Alliance went with the void elves on Telogrus Rift.

    As a void elf, Silvermoon is as much my homeland as it is yours so it's only fair for us to be allowed once more in Quel'Thas my the time Midnight expansion comes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by elbleuet View Post
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    As a void elf, Silvermoon is as much my homeland as it is yours so it's only fair for us to be allowed once more in Quel'Thas my the time Midnight expansion comes.
    As it currently stands, there is simply no reason for this.

    Void elves are traitors to the current stories to Silvermoon. maybe midnight gives them a reason to be there, but void elves made their own choice in leaving silvermoon and follow alleria( who happends to be kicked out of silvermoon as well) So, no they have no claim to it at all. As it currently stands, with barely any midnight info, we have no reason to believe this is going that route at all. So, no this has nothing to do with it being fair. This is just how it is, being jaleous is not an argument.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lahis View Post
    Half of live Silvermoon is still in ruins. When that gets rebuilt for Midnight, there is no chance it won't be for High and Void Elves. Maybe they even add Kaldorei park in it.
    Those ruins will probably be available for all races ( of they use this as questing area) who do the content and there will most likely not be a kaldoreipark or some sort. Kaldorei are the elves that have basically no buisness being there lore wise at all. Inb4 elf unification bs, we have no info on this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lahis View Post
    Half of live Silvermoon is still in ruins. When that gets rebuilt for Midnight, there is no chance it won't be for High and Void Elves. Maybe they even add Kaldorei park in it.
    No chance in your fanfiction. That is still a Horde city.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elbleuet View Post
    Yeah because Silvermoon people is already neutral.

    High and void elves are with the Alliance.

    Alleria, one of the major figures of Silvermoon sides with the Alliance.

    And some blood elves friendly to the Alliance went with the void elves on Telogrus Rift.

    As a void elf, Silvermoon is as much my homeland as it is yours so it's only fair for us to be allowed once more in Quel'Thas my the time Midnight expansion comes.

    Still not seeing how that's gonna make Silvermoon neutral.

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    If they are gonna fix the city, fix the damned city. And even if they don't, those ruins are part of the belf leveling intro. So I don't know why you think it's gonna become some nelf zoo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evilfish View Post
    No chance in your fanfiction. That is still a Horde city
    Not in Midnight anymore. The expansion is set entirely in Quel'Thalas and features elven reunification. Alliance needs capital for it, so it is only natural that the Alliance High elves rebuild the ruined half of Silvermoon.

    Horde will still he their eastern half of the city.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evilfish View Post
    If they are gonna fix the city, fix the damned city. And even if they don't, those ruins are part of the belf leveling intro. So I don't know why you think it's gonna become some nelf zoo.
    That doesn't matter. Blood Elf starting zone is in the past and literally different (and smaller) map than the upcoming Midnight update for Quel'Thalas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alanar View Post
    As it currently stands, there is simply no reason for this.

    Void elves are traitors to the current stories to Silvermoon. maybe midnight gives them a reason to be there, but void elves made their own choice in leaving silvermoon and follow alleria( who happends to be kicked out of silvermoon as well) So, no they have no claim to it at all. As it currently stands, with barely any midnight info, we have no reason to believe this is going that route at all. So, no this has nothing to do with it being fair. This is just how it is, being jaleous is not an argument.

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    Those ruins will probably be available for all races ( of they use this as questing area) who do the content and there will most likely not be a kaldoreipark or some sort. Kaldorei are the elves that have basically no buisness being there lore wise at all. Inb4 elf unification bs, we have no info on this.
    "You will not get light skinned elves because it's impossible"

    Where's the army of blood elves fanboy now ?

    You shall see. With the reunification of elven tribes, it's ineluctable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by elbleuet View Post
    "You will not get light skinned elves because it's impossible"

    Where's the army of blood elves fanboy now ?

    You shall see. With the reunification of elven tribes, it's ineluctable.
    We went over this already. Jumping from a few customization options to dress up your void elf, to having a Horde city turn neutral is not only a leap too far, but it makes no sense what so ever. But ok, give me your logic. Show my why you think Blizzard is gonna keep cutting pieces out of Belfs and offer them to you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evilfish View Post
    We went over this already. Jumping from a few customization options to dress up your void elf, to having a Horde city turn neutral is not only a leap too far, but it makes no sense what so ever. But ok, give me your logic. Show my why you think Blizzard is gonna keep cutting pieces out of Belfs and offer them to you?
    We told you but you aren't listeting.

    1) Elven reunification
    2) Quel'Thalas update
    3) Events happening during a time of peace between the Horde and the Alliance
    4) Gilneas, the most anti-Horde faction, turned into a neutral hub for the Horde.

    Silvermoon is already lost to you but you refuse to admit it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by elbleuet View Post
    "You will not get light skinned elves because it's impossible"

    Where's the army of blood elves fanboy now ?

    You shall see. With the reunification of elven tribes, it's ineluctable.
    It would help if you read what I told you. I also have no idea what army of fanboy elves even mean. They only fanboy I see is you.. wanting something of the horde, because you are jaleous. Again, that is not an argument.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elbleuet View Post
    Silvermoon is already lost to you but you refuse to admit it.
    No you are jumping way to far with the very minimal info we got. Also nothing of your bullet points matter to your cause or confirm anything. So stop trying to be petty here, you are being really weird.
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    Quote Originally Posted by elbleuet View Post
    We told you but you aren't listeting.

    1) Elven reunification
    2) Quel'Thalas update
    3) Events happening during a time of peace between the Horde and the Alliance
    4) Gilneas, the most anti-Horde faction, turned into a neutral hub for the Horde.

    Silvermoon is already lost to you but you refuse to admit it.
    You are just coping. Elven reunification does not mean you will take their city.
    Quel'thalas update does not mean you will take their city.
    Peace does not mean you get a Horde city.
    Gilneas is not a faction city.

    Nowhere, anywhere does it say Silvermoons becomes neutral. That's something you people fantasize about and I wouldn't have a problem with that if you admitted it's just a fantasy. What you hope will happen, not what will happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lahis View Post
    Not in Midnight anymore. The expansion is set entirely in Quel'Thalas and features elven reunification. Alliance needs capital for it, so it is only natural that the Alliance High elves rebuild the ruined half of Silvermoon.

    Horde will still he their eastern half of the city.

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    That doesn't matter. Blood Elf starting zone is in the past and literally different (and smaller) map than the upcoming Midnight update for Quel'Thalas.
    This expansion invovles Quel'thalas, there are gonna be new areas as well. Again you people are letting your fantasies run wild. Elven reunification may mean so many things but for some reason you think you'll snatch the city from under Belfs. It's ridiculous.

    There's not going to be a blue half of the city. Half of the city is a belf lowbie questing zone. Again, what entitlement leads you to think you can just take over an iconic Horde city?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evilfish View Post
    There's not going to be a blue half of the city. Half of the city is a belf lowbie questing zone. Again, what entitlement leads you to think you can just take over an iconic Horde city?
    THERE IS NO LOWBIE BELF ZONE I MIDNIGHT QUEL'THALAS.

    It is expanded expansion zone fore levels 80-90. New BELF players start in Exile's Reach or TBC Quel'Thalas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lahis View Post
    Not in Midnight anymore. The expansion is set entirely in Quel'Thalas and features elven reunification. Alliance needs capital for it, so it is only natural that the Alliance High elves rebuild the ruined half of Silvermoon.
    Again, there is no proof or confirmation on any of this. With the one sentence of info we got. There is no reason to take any of this serious. It would be more usefull if you wait for some confirmed info and discuss that, then claiming something you have no idea about.

    The alliance could easily make use of the exodar repaired as there staging ground It makes way more sense in the big picture. Less so, then forcefully push alliance players into a horde capital. Even outskirts make more sense then your view.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evilfish View Post
    You are just coping. Elven reunification does not mean you will take their city.
    Quel'thalas update does not mean you will take their city.
    Peace does not mean you get a Horde city.
    Gilneas is not a faction city.
    The elven reunification literally means zero at this point in time. It sounds interrsting, but we have no further context or info on this. Again, this could simply be your elf version of alliance/horde coming together to fight the big bad. At the end alliance could also just pack up and leave, we have no idea. Its vague at best. I have no clue how people are able to jump to certain conclusions and claim something will happen. Its rediculous.
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    It's not even talking about Silvermoon, the attack is on the Sunwell, the city isn't even mentioned and these people are pretending like it's already theirs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alanar View Post



    The elven reunification literally means zero at this point in time. It sounds interrsting, but we have no further context or info on this. Again, this could simply be your elf version of alliance/horde coming together to fight the big bad. At the end alliance could also just pack up and leave, we have no idea. Its vague at best. I have no clue how people are able to jump to certain conclusions and claim something will happen. Its rediculous.
    "Thanks to our High and void elves bretherns for helping to save our brillant nation. Now your time on this land is over and you're exiled once more. Have fun !"

    This isn't how things do work, especially in wow.
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