1. #26721
    Actually, it makes sense for the Kirin Tor to set up shop in Telogrus Rift and cooperate with the Ren'dorei, since the Kirin Tor is interested in studying all forms of Magic.

    Why wouldn't they be interested in learning more about the Void, which remains a big unknown to anyone besides the Ren'dorei themselves?

    Also, Alleria and Khadgar are old friends so it makes sense for the Ren'dorei and Kirin Tor to cooperate. I expect to see more of the Silver Covenant too.

  2. #26722
    Quote Originally Posted by elbleuet View Post
    More blood elves working with the void elves
    Not what I can see.

    It's more like High Elves, Kirin and Void Elves working with them, which is fair.

    Suramar is expanded for Horde players - Nighthold Gardens and Thalyssra's Estate.
    Telogrus is expanded for Alliance players - more Void portals, plus Kirin Tor involvement.
    @Vaedan - could have been right about the potential for more Suramar and Telogrus stuff...potential for Midnight.

  3. #26723
    Quote Originally Posted by Tanaria View Post
    Not what I can see.

    It's more like High Elves, Kirin and Void Elves working with them, which is fair.

    Suramar is expanded for Horde players - Nighthold Gardens and Thalyssra's Estate.
    Telogrus is expanded for Alliance players - more Void portals, plus Kirin Tor involvement.
    @Vaedan - could have been right about the potential for more Suramar and Telogrus stuff...potential for Midnight.
    You know that there has always been a group of Blood Elves in Telogrus Rift, Yes? (even back during the Fourth War that the Horde started)

    If anything, I expect the Sunreavers to also start cooperating more closely with the Silver Covenant and the Ren'dorei. The beginning of Aethas Sunreaver's atonement, in a way.
    Last edited by Varodoc; 2024-04-11 at 01:43 PM.

  4. #26724
    Quote Originally Posted by Tanaria View Post
    But surely those features should come in TWW, where it is basically Xal'atath vs Alleria.

    For Midnight, it should be something that relates closely to Quel'Thalas, Quel'dorei and Sin'dorei.

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    Yes!
    And Suramar is also updated for Horde players. The Gardens of the Nighthold

    Perhaps it's possible Telogrus and Suramar are expected to play bigger roles in the future?
    yes
    suramar




    It is possible that Suramar and Telogrus are part of Midnight and see some more updates in those areas

  5. #26725
    Quote Originally Posted by Varodoc View Post
    You know that there has always been a group of Blood Elves in Telogrus Rift, Yes? (even back during the Fourth War that the Horde started)
    And your also aware that Suramar is Horde and it's joined in marriage with Silvermoon, yes? So, Blood Elves for both Void Elves and Nightborne..?

    Besides, all we can see for both are Void Elf and Nightborne NPC's. Now I know you'll be raging about Suramar being updated for Horde players only because everything should just be for the Alliance players because Alliance player = victim, but...Suramar/Horde content should also be updated as well, so I'm glad that both are getting updates and this can revert back to my idea that Suramar and Telogrus can easily be involved with the events of Midnight...it's clear both aren't forgotten.

  6. #26726
    Quote Originally Posted by Varodoc View Post
    You know that there has always been a group of Blood Elves in Telogrus Rift, Yes? (even back during the Fourth War that the Horde started)

    If anything, I expect the Sunreavers to also start cooperating more closely with the Silver Covenant and the Ren'dorei. The beginning of Aethas Sunreaver's atonement, in a way.
    Yes, Silvermoon scholars.

    I didn't see new from them, a couple more? The tents are new

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanaria View Post
    And your also aware that Suramar is Horde and it's joined in marriage with Silvermoon, yes? So, Blood Elves for both Void Elves and Nightborne..?

    Besides, all we can see for both are Void Elf and Nightborne NPC's. Now I know you'll be raging about Suramar being updated for Horde players only because everything should just be for the Alliance players because Alliance player = victim, but...Suramar/Horde content should also be updated as well, so I'm glad that both are getting updates and this can revert back to my idea that Suramar and Telogrus can easily be involved with the events of Midnight...it's clear both aren't forgotten.
    https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Silvermoon_Scholar

    That is why I always believed that green eyes can be Void Elf customization, and that blood elves should have more light customization . To differentiate more void elves and light (Blood) elves

  7. #26727
    The Silver Covenant have officially returned to Dalaran:

    https://twitter.com/TheRedShirtGuy/s...73667123695723

    I mean, it was already obvious at the end of Legion, as Vereesa and her twins were living in Dalaran when Alleria visited them in the comic. But this is final confirmation that the Silver Covenant are indeed back in Dalaran.

    The Sunreavers have some nerve to show their face again in Dalaran. They have much to atone for.

  8. #26728
    Quote Originally Posted by Rhlor View Post
    https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Silvermoon_Scholar

    That is why I always believed that green eyes can be Void Elf customization, and that blood elves should have more light customization . To differentiate more void elves and light (Blood) elves
    They are from the original Telogrus Rift.

    All signs seem to point at more Silver Covenant, Kirin Tor and Void Elf stuff working together. Make the Kirin Tor Alliance only for all I care.
    Suramar should be the place for Nightborne, Blood Elves and maybe Highmountain guests to fly in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varodoc View Post
    The Sunreavers have some nerve to show their face again in Dalaran. They have much to atone for.
    They were already readmitted when Felo'melorn was taken from the Darkfallen Mage and when they protected Dalaran from the Legion, during the Mage Campaign.

    It's not a shock and only those of extreme Alliance bias, really care about it because again - Legion lore and Khadgar accepted them back in.

  9. #26729
    Quote Originally Posted by Tanaria View Post
    They are from the original Telogrus Rift.

    All signs seem to point at more Silver Covenant, Kirin Tor and Void Elf stuff working together. Make the Kirin Tor Alliance only for all I care.
    Suramar should be the place for Nightborne, Blood Elves and maybe Highmountain guests to fly in.

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    They were already readmitted when Felo'melorn was taken from the Darkfallen Mage and when they protected Dalaran from the Legion, during the Mage Campaign.

    It's not a shock and only those of extreme Alliance bias, really care about it because again - Legion lore and Khadgar accepted them back in.
    Something curious is that the High Elf Wayfarers seem to have been removed from telogrus.

    In any case, what would be great is if they placed Zidormi in Suramar to change phases between a current Suramar and Suramar Legion.

    it's great to see how they are adding new things.

  10. #26730
    Quote Originally Posted by Rhlor View Post
    Something curious is that the High Elf Wayfarers seem to have been removed from telogrus.

    In any case, what would be great is if they placed Zidormi in Suramar to change phases between a current Suramar and Suramar Legion.

    it's great to see how they are adding new things.
    I hope this pushes for Telogrus and Suramar to serve as Alliance and Horde locations of importance.

    As much as the lore will go to the Blood Elves, High elves and Night Elves; I think it's poetic that the bases of the Shal'dorei and Void Elves play a role.
    Telogrus for Void Elves, High Elves and Night Elves.
    Suramar for Nightborne and Blood Elves

  11. #26731
    Quote Originally Posted by Tanaria View Post
    They are from the original Telogrus Rift.

    All signs seem to point at more Silver Covenant, Kirin Tor and Void Elf stuff working together. Make the Kirin Tor Alliance only for all I care.
    Suramar should be the place for Nightborne, Blood Elves and maybe Highmountain guests to fly in.

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    They were already readmitted when Felo'melorn was taken from the Darkfallen Mage and when they protected Dalaran from the Legion, during the Mage Campaign.

    It's not a shock and only those of extreme Alliance bias, really care about it because again - Legion lore and Khadgar accepted them back in.
    Yes, the Sunreavers returned to Dalaran in legion.

    We even saw a typical blue-eyed sunreaver in Dalaran during Legion.

    many of the first horde high elves npc we saw before customization was added were sunreavers

  12. #26732
    Quote Originally Posted by Rhlor View Post
    yes
    suramar




    It is possible that Suramar and Telogrus are part of Midnight and see some more updates in those areas
    Wonderfull.
    Last edited by Alanar; 2024-04-11 at 02:23 PM.

  13. #26733
    Quote Originally Posted by Alanar View Post
    This was known aleady actually.
    No it wasn't.

    The Covenant were replaced by the Worgen and nobody knew what happened to them. The only bit of information we got is that the Covenant and Sunreavers were still stationed in the Crystalsong Forest, so we know the order of High Elves hadn't disbanded.

    We only Vereesa and some High Elf Mages involved during Legion. We didn't know where the Covenant were stationed post-Legion. We still don't, but we know that they have returned to Dalaran.
    The Sunreavers in Dalaran is what was already known.

  14. #26734
    Quote Originally Posted by Alanar View Post
    Wonderfull.

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    This was known aleady actually.
    Yeah! It is wonderful that they add these things, we players just want to see that the world is alive and see how places that we love like Suramar evolve. Just cleaning a place and putting some friendly npcs makes us happy haha

    I don't know if it's true that Thalyssra's house is also clean now. If someone can notice that would be great.

    I hope it's clean, it would be nice if they added lorthemar and thalysrra there

    I want them to have a baby

  15. #26735
    Quote Originally Posted by Rhlor View Post
    Yeah! It is wonderful that they add these things, we players just want to see that the world is alive and see how places that we love like Suramar evolve. Just cleaning a place and putting some friendly npcs makes us happy haha

    I don't know if it's true that Thalyssra's house is also clean now. If someone can notice that would be great.

    I hope it's clean, it would be nice if they added lorthemar and thalysrra there

    I want them to have a baby
    If Quel'Thalas is being lost to both factions, this might be the update where Lor'themar and Thalyssra will eventually stand to lead the joined Elven nations of the Horde.
    Telogrus Expansion could be where the Silver Covenant Refugees come to, so they can unite and recover with the Void Elves.

  16. #26736
    Quote Originally Posted by Tanaria View Post
    If Quel'Thalas is being lost to both factions, this might be the update where Lor'themar and Thalyssra will eventually stand to lead the joined Elven nations of the Horde.
    Telogrus Expansion could be where the Silver Covenant Refugees come to, so they can unite and recover with the Void Elves.
    God I hope not.

    add things without losing anything.

    Also, royal families have more than one house.

  17. #26737
    Quote Originally Posted by Rhlor View Post
    Yes, the Sunreavers returned to Dalaran in legion.

    We even saw a typical blue-eyed sunreaver in Dalaran during Legion.

    many of the first horde high elves npc we saw before customization was added were sunreavers
    Yes.

    To note; it was asked in ask the dev if the fel radiation is slowly fading over time. They basically confirmed that and with blood elves you can see that in their eye color options. So blood elves are able to slowly regain their blue eyes.

  18. #26738
    Quote Originally Posted by Rhlor View Post
    God I hope not.

    add things without losing anything.

    Also, royal families have more than one house.
    It has to be considered.

  19. #26739
    Quote Originally Posted by Alanar View Post
    Yes.

    To note; it was asked in ask the dev if the fel radiation is slowly fading over time. They basically confirmed that and with blood elves you can see that in their eye color options. So blood elves are able to slowly regain their blue eyes.
    yes, it is a customization and now we see many blue-eyed npcs like the ones in the reliquary in DF

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanaria View Post
    It has to be considered.
    I prefer not to consider it. Add things without losing anything, what happened with the night elves shows that that was a mistake, they are even considering rebuilding Teldrassil one day.

  20. #26740
    Quote Originally Posted by Rhlor View Post
    I prefer not to consider it. Add things without losing anything, what happened with the night elves shows that that was a mistake, they are even considering rebuilding Teldrassil one day.
    Then, their is the potential to be setting yourself up for extreme upset. All things, including the Blood Elves (and all factions) losing Quel'Thalas to the void, for the expansion, must be stated.

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