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    Jaina is already Grand admiral of Kul Tiras buuuut... She appears in patch 10.2.7 aswell so ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dancaris View Post
    And how much they can go with all that modern stuff. We have 1 female wizard in ranks, so I beleive that instead of Kalec will be Jaina.

    Also it depends of how far that neutrality can go. We can see another members in Council of Six be replaced as well.
    Archmage Vargoth can be replaced with Meryl(dead), Ansirem Runeweaver - with Aethas(pussy).
    Don't think about Woke-Blizzard...let's roll with what makes sense

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    Quote Originally Posted by elbleuet View Post
    Jaina is already Grand admiral of Kul Tiras buuuut... She appears in patch 10.2.7 aswell so ...
    Possibly a whole Alliance meeting..? Although, Blizzard generally do a whole Alliance and whole Horde meeting and we'd see unused character ID's for all the Horde characters as well like Lor'themar, Thalyssra, Thrall etc..

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    Jaina deserves to be on the Council of Six again.

    If Aethas Sunreaver is truly remorseful for all the terrible things the Sunreavers have done in the past, he'll offer Jaina the seat on the Council of Six.

    Some random trinket bought on the Trading Post won't be enough to earn Lady Proudmoore's forgiveness, but it's certainly a start.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varodoc View Post
    Jaina deserves to be on the Council of Six again.

    If Aethas Sunreaver is truly remorseful for all the terrible things the Sunreavers have done in the past, he'll offer Jaina the seat on the Council of Six.

    Some random trinket bought on the Trading Post won't be enough to earn Lady Proudmoore's forgiveness, but it's certainly a start.
    Aethas has no power to dictate who has/hasn't got a place on the Council.

    Jaina left and is now the leader of Kul'Tiras. Modera and the main Kirin Tor Leader, Khadgar as well as the remaining members of the Council state who can be on the Council. Not Jaina any longer. She forfeited that right when she left. Modera will likely champion Aethas to return to his original post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanaria View Post
    Aethas has no power to dictate who has/hasn't got a place on the Council.

    Jaina left and is now the leader of Kul'Tiras. Modera and the main Kirin Tor Leader, Khadgar as well as the remaining members of the Council state who can be on the Council. Not Jaina any longer. She forfeited that right when she left. Modera will likely champion Aethas to return to his original post.
    This doesn't make any sense.

    World leaders can also be a part of the Council of Six as shown by Prince Kael'thas the future King of Quel'Thalas also being part of the Council of Six.

    And it's pretty obvious that what I meant is that Aethas should pass the seat to Jaina if for whatever reason he was chosen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varodoc View Post
    This doesn't make any sense.

    World leaders can also be a part of the Council of Six as shown by Prince Kael'thas the future King of Quel'Thalas also being part of the Council of Six.

    And it's pretty obvious that what I meant is that Aethas should pass the seat to Jaina if for whatever reason he was chosen.
    It makes perfect sense.
    Jaina leaves - she can't have a voice on the Council anymore, unless elected by the current leaders.

    An opening has occurred and it's only right that the spot goes to Magister Umbric.

    Aethas and Ryanna have their place as Archmagi of the new Tirisgarde Order with Meryl.

    EDIT: Plus, doesn't "Magister" outrank "Archmage" for Thalassian society? So, technically - Umbric should be considered for the Council befoe Aethas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanaria View Post
    It makes perfect sense.
    Jaina leaves - she can't have a voice on the Council anymore, unless elected by the current leaders.

    An opening has occurred and it's only right that the spot goes to Magister Umbric.

    Aethas and Ryanna have their place as Archmagi of the new Tirisgarde Order with Meryl.
    Well Yeah, obviously Jaina will take second place compared to Umbric, that goes without saying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanaria View Post
    Aethas and Ryanna serve better as Archmages of the Tirisgarde. A neutral branch of the Kirin Tor.
    The Sunreaver branch of Dalaran are better suited to being the bulk of the Tirisgarde Lead Magi, along with Ryanna - a Shal'dorei envoy.

    Umbric being on the Council of Six is actually good development for that old Thalassian/Human Alliance. Umbric can be what Kael'thas was not.
    I trust Umbric can actually perform duties between Dalaran and Telogrus, unlike Kael'thas who was only able to dedicate his time to Dalaran and not the Quel'dorei.

    Also, unlike Kael'thas - Umbric won't dictate to Alleria who she can have within her Ren'dorei Farstrider ranks, from afar. The nerve of Kael'thas to do that to Sylvanas, whilst he spent most of his time in Dalaran, chasing Jaina...I'm glad Sylvanas blanked him completely.
    I definitely agree. Umbric being part of the Council would be great development for his character and also void elves in general.
    As former sin'dorei magister, he could also bridge blood and high elf citizens of Dalaran.
    Also Kirin Tor has their banner in Telogrus now and one can wonder why.

    But as I said, I have creeping suspicion that they will make Aethas one of the Six instead. We will see soon enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varodoc View Post
    Well Yeah, obviously Jaina will take second place compared to Umbric, that goes without saying.
    Only 1 spot is available. You can't have a Council of Six, with Seven members. That's a total oxymoron or the Mages of Dalaran can't count.

    It's Six and both Jaina and Aethas went through stories where they are members no longer.
    It's better for their characters to be left out of Council of Six affairs..otherwise, their stories behind leaving are utterly pointless and a waste of time.

    Just give the post of Magister Umbric, whilst Aethas is an Archmage of the Tirisgarde Order and Jaina is Lord Admiral of Kul'Tiras.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaedan View Post
    I definitely agree. Umbric being part of the Council would be great development for his character and also void elves in general.
    As former sin'dorei magister, he could also bridge blood and high elf citizens of Dalaran.
    Also Kirin Tor has their banner in Telogrus now and one can wonder why.

    But as I said, I have creeping suspicion that they will make Aethas one of the Six instead. We will see soon enough.
    Aethas is incompetent and foolish, I don't see why he should return to the Council of Six.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaedan View Post
    I definitely agree. Umbric being part of the Council would be great development for his character and also void elves in general.
    As former sin'dorei magister, he could also bridge blood and high elf citizens of Dalaran.
    Also Kirin Tor has their banner in Telogrus now and one can wonder why.

    But as I said, I have creeping suspicion that they will make Aethas one of the Six instead. We will see soon enough.
    It makes the MoP story arc for Aethas utterly pointless.

    When he returned in Legion, he was part of the Tirisgarde...and he states himself that he can't return and resume his old post. It's better for him if he's a neutral Archmage of the Tirisgarde, with Ryanna and Meryl. That way, weak leadership can't be so easily exploited.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varodoc View Post
    Aethas is incompetent and foolish, I don't see why he should return to the Council of Six.
    He states himself to Modera that he can't return to his old post, even if the Council allowed him back.

    I don't foresee him going back - plus, he has a Nightborne Apprentice and they are both part of the Tirisgarde. I reckon, it's better for both Aethas and Ryanna to remain part of the Tirisgarde Order with Meryl. That way, Aethas' weak leadership can't be exploited.

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    I don't want it to be Aethas, since he's a spineless little sh*t. That is an actual title he has, though he's hidden it from view. Aethas Sunreaver, Spineless Little Sh*t. Fuck him.

    I don't want it to be Jaina, since she's the instigator of the Purge, which still hasn't been processed as far as Sunreaver pain is concerned.

    Umbric... I don't like him and his Alliance sympathies. The very first line for him in his wiki-profile champions the return of Silvermoon to the Alliance. In case he still feels that way in WoW's present day, I don't see how he could represent the sin'dorei in any capacity. It's a matter of its own whether the Kirin Tor even requires sin'dorei representation in its leadership, but it would certainly make the Sunreavers living in Dalaran feel safer, considering their history. Even if Blizz doesn't deem sin'dorei representation necessary for the Council, I'd rather have the members be devoid of strong Alliance sympathies altogether.

    It definitely won't be Rommath, since he hates the Kirin Tor and is already busy with leading the magisters of Silvermoon.

    Astalor... maybe? He has a way with words and is a masterful mage in his own right. I'm good seeing him in any position, really, as long as he gets more spotlight. Perhaps he can better serve as the blood golem guy in Midnight like he did in WoD.

    Hathorel? He's one of the better known Sunreavers and one that definitely still has the Purge occupying his mind. That could mean abuse of power if he was accepted in the Council, though it could also mean the matter isn't just swept under the rug.
    Now you see it. Now you don't.

    But was where Dalaran?

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    would be funny if it was Rommath like he just suddenly felt like marching back in to personally watch over the Kirin Tor with Alarak's demeanor

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zuben View Post
    I don't want it to be Aethas, since he's a spineless little sh*t. That is an actual title he has, though he's hidden it from view. Aethas Sunreaver, Spineless Little Sh*t. Fuck him.

    I don't want it to be Jaina, since she's the instigator of the Purge, which still hasn't been processed as far as Sunreaver pain is concerned.

    Umbric... I don't like him and his Alliance sympathies. The very first line for him in his wiki-profile champions the return of Silvermoon to the Alliance. In case he still feels that way in WoW's present day, I don't see how he could represent the sin'dorei in any capacity. It's a matter of its own whether the Kirin Tor even requires sin'dorei representation in its leadership, but it would certainly make the Sunreavers living in Dalaran feel safer, considering their history. Even if Blizz doesn't deem sin'dorei representation necessary for the Council, I'd rather have the members be devoid of strong Alliance sympathies altogether.

    It definitely won't be Rommath, since he hates the Kirin Tor and is already busy with leading the magisters of Silvermoon.

    Astalor... maybe? He has a way with words and is a masterful mage in his own right. I'm good seeing him in any position, really, as long as he gets more spotlight. Perhaps he can better serve as the blood golem guy in Midnight like he did in WoD.

    Hathorel? He's one of the better known Sunreavers and one that definitely still has the Purge occupying his mind. That could mean abuse of power if he was accepted in the Council, though it could also mean the matter isn't just swept under the rug.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ardenaso View Post
    would be funny if it was Rommath like he just suddenly felt like marching back in to personally watch over the Kirin Tor with Alarak's demeanor

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    Right, I forgot to consider Forsaken possibilities. Feels obvious in hindsight.

    The world definitely needs more Alarak. With HotS dead in the water I haven't had my fix of his attitude in years.
    Now you see it. Now you don't.

    But was where Dalaran?

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    For both factions
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    For both factions
    That's no surprise...the Scarlet Paladin-like set is for both factions as well.

    It's just the Mage set here is based around the Blood Elves - primarily because it will match the Sin'dorei Heritage Robe and Sin'dorei Heritage Cloak.
    I'd say you could easily make your Blood Elf Mage look like Kael'thas, in the Curse of the Blood Elves - REVAMPED Campaign, when you only play as Lady Vashj because Kael'thas is hindered by his lack of Mana.

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    don't really like the revamped campaign as it's a glorified feature bloat for me where the transcript was literally convoluted but I'm looking forward to see Re-Reforged's take with the High Elf and Blood Elf chapters

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    Quote Originally Posted by elbleuet View Post
    For both factions
    not sure about the memorabilia of the an anti-alliance character, and one of the most defining traits of a horde race being accessible to the alliance
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ardenaso View Post
    don't really like the revamped campaign as it's a glorified feature bloat for me where the transcript was literally convoluted but I'm looking forward to see Re-Reforged's take with the High Elf and Blood Elf chapters

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    not sure about the memorabilia of the an anti-alliance character, and one of the most defining traits of a horde race being accessible to the alliance
    They gave the night elf warden set to the Horde aswell so...
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    Quote Originally Posted by elbleuet View Post


    For both factions
    Same as the blue/gold version that also was available for both.

    This recolor is obviously blood elf/kael'thas vibe. It will be glorious being a blood elf with this, there is no contest there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanaria View Post
    That's no surprise...the Scarlet Paladin-like set is for both factions as well.

    It's just the Mage set here is based around the Blood Elves - primarily because it will match the Sin'dorei Heritage Robe and Sin'dorei Heritage Cloak.
    I'd say you could easily make your Blood Elf Mage look like Kael'thas, in the Curse of the Blood Elves - REVAMPED Campaign, when you only play as Lady Vashj because Kael'thas is hindered by his lack of Mana.
    I mean, I think we can safely say, the whole design and with color scheme, is exactly like Kael. The other recolors of this, were for fun. This is the real deal. Hopefully they will eventually do more with cloaks in the future. I would love a over the shoulder type of cloak with Maiev like physics or even better like Lor'themar, who uses a better cloth system even. You are right, alliance won't be able to match this with the Sin'dorei armor, which fits perfecty. So it already kinda makes it, more horde/blood elf orientated. There is no better match in game for these shoulders/headpiece.

    When ever I get this in my hands, it will be hard to switch if off. I knew the moment it was datamined, that this would match and it sucked the blue one was given first instead. Actually excited for something so small.
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    Quote Originally Posted by elbleuet View Post
    They gave the night elf warden set to the Horde aswell so...
    it would be fine if it's dark/forsaken warden

    for the alliance, it should've been silver covenant colors like my high elf mage reskin here:

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