1. #26941
    Quote Originally Posted by Wyrt View Post
    We already have 2 versions of high elves, we don't need a 3rd.
    We have 3 dwarves right now and the game is doing just fine.

  2. #26942
    Quote Originally Posted by Ersula View Post
    In a way that makes no sense, sure.

    She was the Ranger-general previously, why is everyone assuming the title isn't referring to that? Unlike Sylvanas & Lorethemar, even if she isn't the Ranger-General currently that's still the best title to give her. What else would they call her? Turalyon's wife? Absentee Mother?
    She was never Ranger General. She rejected the title and role, much to her mother’s disappointment, leaving Sylvanas to carry the mantle. She was called a Ranger Captain, but nothing more.

  3. #26943
    Quote Originally Posted by snatchr View Post
    We have 3 dwarves right now and the game is doing just fine.
    Earthen, dark iron, and the regular are visually and culturally distinct, where as a high elf differs less from a blood elf than a Wildhammer from a Bronzebeard. Yet, if you want a Wildhammer, the regular dwarf has visual options for that. It's the same with high elf, both blood elves and void elves can select visual choices that represent your ordinary elf. That's why it's unlikely high elves would be added as their own option. Void elves themselves were conjured because Blizz caved and gave Alliance their own Thalassians, but still wanted their faction to be distinguishable from Horde's blood elves.
    Now you see it. Now you don't.

    But was where Dalaran?

  4. #26944
    Quote Originally Posted by Zuben View Post
    Earthen, dark iron, and the regular are visually and culturally distinct, where as a high elf differs less from a blood elf than a Wildhammer from a Bronzebeard. Yet, if you want a Wildhammer, the regular dwarf has visual options for that. It's the same with high elf, both blood elves and void elves can select visual choices that represent your ordinary elf. That's why it's unlikely high elves would be added as their own option. Void elves themselves were conjured because Blizz caved and gave Alliance their own Thalassians, but still wanted their faction to be distinguishable from Horde's blood elves.
    This game makes up distinctions up on the fly. Before BFA Kultirans were guys in green tabards. Before MoP Zandalari were just regular darkspear. I've never understood why its so hard to imagine similar stuff being done for high elves, whether to lean more into the unruly ranger aesthetic, the military attitude of the silver covenant or get creative with their close links to the wildhammer and the highlands.

    But even then I don't think its as important as people make out, what exactly are the vast cultural differences between most allied races? Most of them are just the same as the base race, either with the same fantasy radically enhanced (Lightforged, Mechagnomes) or practically indistinguishable (Highmountain).

    Is it unlikely now? Totally. But the arguments have never made sense. I wish people would just admit its down to personal taste rather than trying to come up with a litany of convoluted, imagined rulesets for what the game can and can't add. Cause its clear blizz just does whatever fits the moment.
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  5. #26945
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    If we ever get High Elves. They'll be character customization options for both Blood Elves and Void Elves. I want to see more Character customization options in Midnight.

  6. #26946
    Quote Originally Posted by TheWizardFan88 View Post
    If we ever get High Elves. They'll be character customization options for both Blood Elves and Void Elves. I want to see more Character customization options in Midnight.
    This already happened in 9.0.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lahis View Post
    This already happened in 9.0.
    Yea and I want to see more Customization Options added for Variety and different looks for Thalassian Player Characters.

  8. #26948
    This still going on? Have you people lost your minds? We have belfs, we have Velfs who can look exactly like belfs. What the hell is the point of helfs now? And this stuff about a neutral Horde city, another stupid ass thing. Why the hell would they gut a Horde city? Cause you want them to? What if the Horde players don't want it to go that way?

  9. #26949
    Quote Originally Posted by elbleuet View Post
    https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...hread/page4881

    By Midnight, Alleria's new titile will be "Ranger-General".
    Neutral Silvermoon is coming. We will return home brothers and sisters !
    Y'see, this is the worst way to handle high elves because their entire post-WCIII identity is heavily predicated on their displaced status and existing redeemed but fractured in the wake of their old culture's destruction. Just reuniting them with the blood elves is a terrible idea, as is neutral Silvermoon. Let the blood elves be blood elves and high elves be high elves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AOL Instant Messenger View Post
    Y'see, this is the worst way to handle high elves because their entire post-WCIII identity is heavily predicated on their displaced status and existing redeemed but fractured in the wake of their old culture's destruction. Just reuniting them with the blood elves is a terrible idea, as is neutral Silvermoon. Let the blood elves be blood elves and high elves be high elves.
    Quel'Thalas could be the home of various high elven cultures instead of just one.
    "If you want to play alongside High and Void elves, the Alliance is waiting for you"

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    Quote Originally Posted by AOL Instant Messenger View Post
    Y'see, this is the worst way to handle high elves because their entire post-WCIII identity is heavily predicated on their displaced status and existing redeemed but fractured in the wake of their old culture's destruction. Just reuniting them with the blood elves is a terrible idea, as is neutral Silvermoon. Let the blood elves be blood elves and high elves be high elves.
    Well said its a lose-lose situation.

  13. #26953
    Quote Originally Posted by elbleuet View Post
    Quel'Thalas could be the home of various high elven cultures instead of just one.
    No, it should be the home of zero high elven cultures. It should be the home of the blood elves, who are a distinct culture now. You could and should have high elves in Quel'Danil or Allerian Stronghold, but they shouldn't be in Silvermoon. Blood elves shouldn't be red high elves and high elves shouldn't be blue blood elves.

  14. #26954
    Red high elves is literally what the blood elves have been since Warcraft 3. Sorry the helfer thing took 20 years for some of you to get it.

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    I played the beta of these chapters and I can assure y'all will love these; especially when Silvermoon is being sieged
    The Alliance gets the Horde's most popular race. The Horde should get the Alliance's most popular race in return. Alteraci Humans for the Horde!

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    do we have any idea on who's the elf who introduced arcane magic to humans? I want him to be the statue for the Dalarani Altar of Kings in Re-Reforged
    The Alliance gets the Horde's most popular race. The Horde should get the Alliance's most popular race in return. Alteraci Humans for the Horde!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ardenaso View Post
    do we have any idea on who's the elf who introduced arcane magic to humans? I want him to be the statue for the Dalarani Altar of Kings in Re-Reforged
    wasn't it 100 humans that went to silvermoon and were taught in magic? I don't think it is a single person who taught magic to the humans
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    I mean, trying to worm out of the way it's the WORLDSOUL saga... yah. It's Azeroth reaching out, not some light fairy.
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  18. #26958
    Quote Originally Posted by Enrif View Post
    wasn't it 100 humans that went to silvermoon and were taught in magic? I don't think it is a single person who taught magic to the humans
    I think it was actually a group of elves went to th Arathi kingdom and trained the 100 humans but it's pretty unclear from what I remember

  19. #26959
    There was no single elf messiah who taught humans magic. It was a deal where the elves would teach 100 humans the basics of magic in exchange of human unga-bunga against troll unga-bunga in the troll wars.

    To the elves' complete shock, the humans turned out to be adept at arcane magic.

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    damn, at least a representative or headmaster would be nice
    The Alliance gets the Horde's most popular race. The Horde should get the Alliance's most popular race in return. Alteraci Humans for the Horde!

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