Official High Elf Discussion Megathread

[Traycor]

You know what else is interesting? The fact you are a 7 year member with 707 posts as of this writing. That's something like 101 posts a year. There are literally more pages to this thread than posts you have. Not that this is relevant to elves in any way just an observation lol

Yeah, it's the first time I've posted in like 5 years. Been a minute.

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High Elves getting 1 (one) building and that's huge lol

It's big because of what it implies. There will likely be a small settlement of high elves that move in, which also means they might have some story and quests this expansion. Considering the xpac theme, any high elf quests might be of significance to High Elf lore. We'll see.

To be nitpicky, it's 3 buildings, an archway, a dock, 3 tents, and a flight master. The name Silverglade Refuge implies that it's a place of safety where high elves have taken shelter.

[Ardenaso]

New Alliance exclusive High elf settlement in WPL! (only 1 Alliance flypath)

in Re-Reforged, this was made to be the place Arthas visits to unlock Sorceresses to help defend Hearthglen

[tufy123]

In my opinion there‘s no need for that, people don’t actually care about high elves, they care about elves on the „good guys“ team. Keep Silvermoon neutral (sanctuary) and allow blood elves to choose their faction at the end of ghostlands, like Pandaren did. There, problem solved.

[Traycor]

in Re-Reforged, this was made to be the place Arthas visits to unlock Sorceresses to help defend Hearthglen

Oh interesting! I need to look into that.

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This Silverglade Refuge has a dock for smaller boats, but also a raised dock that a larger ship could stop at. We know the Silver Covenant high elves have a fleet as seen in Northrend, but we've never seen where their ships dock at. We've had to assume that their ships were wandering without a home, using random ports to resupply.

The dock in Silverglade Refuge means their is at least one home base where Silver Covenant ships can resupply and be repaired before heading back out again.

[elbleuet]

Guess what boys ?

We have https://www.wowhead.com/beta/npc=252...uellithien-red

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and friendly blood elves making us a portal to Silvermoon in Stormwind

[snatchr]

Oh interesting! I need to look into that.

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This Silverglade Refuge has a dock for smaller boats, but also a raised dock that a larger ship could stop at. We know the Silver Covenant high elves have a fleet as seen in Northrend, but we've never seen where their ships dock at. We've had to assume that their ships were wandering without a home, using random ports to resupply.

The dock in Silverglade Refuge means their is at least one home base where Silver Covenant ships can resupply and be repaired before heading back out again.

A bunch of wrath/mop silver covenant npcs are returning in Midnight, including Captain Elleane Wavecrest. Silverglade Refuges alliance flightpath is the silver covenant hippogryph also. So its definitely where they'll be, at least for a while.

[Ardenaso]

I'm happy for the High Elf fans (no malice nor backhand intended) and it's great that they get their wish; I also wish at least in the Last Titan they finally get Alteraci Humans for the Horde </3

[Joshuaj]

Guess what boys ?

We have https://www.wowhead.com/beta/npc=252...uellithien-red

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and friendly blood elves making us a portal to Silvermoon in Stormwind

Makes me wonder if they'll update Eastern Plaguelands in the near future.

[Bwgmon]

and friendly blood elves making us a portal to Silvermoon in Stormwind

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The implication that the High Elves and Void Elves were too inept to manage them and they had to pay the Horde to get it done is a bit amusing, but I'm going to take a guess that they'll probably change them at some point.

[elbleuet]

The implication that the High Elves and Void Elves were too inept to manage them and they had to pay the Horde to get it done is a bit amusing, but I'm going to take a guess that they'll probably change them at some point.

Yeah I think this isn't going to last.

[Ersula]

The implication that the High Elves and Void Elves were too inept to manage them and they had to pay the Horde to get it done is a bit amusing, but I'm going to take a guess that they'll probably change them at some point.

It's a matter of permissions. Surely there are magical safeguards to stop an opposing force open portals directly to an enemy city. The Blood Elves are there to control how long the portal is in place. (Even though in practice the portal to midnight era silvermoon will be open indefinitely.)

[Tourmaline]

It's a matter of permissions. Surely there are magical safeguards to stop an opposing force open portals directly to an enemy city. The Blood Elves are there to control how long the portal is in place. (Even though in practice the portal to midnight era silvermoon will be open indefinitely.)

This was my assumption when I saw it. The Blood Elf mages are necessary to get through whatever wards are in place.

[Tanaria]

And is it worth sacrificing the high elven parts of the blood elves and the night elven parts of the Nightborne? I say yes, 100%, - the blood elves and Nightborne can live without those anyway, and the horde can too, in fact some would argue the horde will blossom with blood elves becoming more like the TFT bad boy group.

Well, this never aged well did it.

Midnight Quel'Thalas is basically a love letter to the Blood Elf fanbase

[Mace]

Well, this never aged well did it.

Midnight Quel'Thalas is basically a love letter to the Blood Elf fanbase

The my were never going to do that though. It’s what they should have done. But the current blizzard leadership live the blood elves and live the horde and consider all the changes to what the meaning and essence of the factions not important enough to maintain that union.

They are elf lovers who now have their fave elves on their fave faction. They would never change it unless they leave or another “night elf” discovery occurs that would shift their excitement.

High elves will only come because you have to be stupid to ignore the incredible demand and desire. It is pointless to hate them enough to go all out to campaign and manipulate people into thing in they are a bad idea.

Community analytics will easily see the demand is there so they will eventually give, but they won’t really care.


Such things only shift blizzard when there is a large community outcry. Currently the most vocal fan base are blood elf by 3:1. This is even higher among the hardcore fan base. So thenvocal support is huge and if changes doend on vocal majority, the. They won’t change anything because they also love it as is. And. Without making high elves. Reactive or alkiance races attractive the player base will never shift towards alliance again enough for their voices to carry the weight blood elf fan voices die

[Tanaria]

The my were never going to do that though. It’s what they should have done. But the current blizzard leadership live the blood elves and live the horde and consider all the changes to what the meaning and essence of the factions not important enough to maintain that union.

They are elf lovers who now have their fave elves on their fave faction. They would never change it unless they leave or another “night elf” discovery occurs that would shift their excitement.

High elves will only come because you have to be stupid to ignore the incredible demand and desire. It is pointless to hate them enough to go all out to campaign and manipulate people into thing in they are a bad idea.

Community analytics will easily see the demand is there so they will eventually give, but they won’t really care.


Such things only shift blizzard when there is a large community outcry. Currently the most vocal fan base are blood elf by 3:1. This is even higher among the hardcore fan base. So thenvocal support is huge and if changes doend on vocal majority, the. They won’t change anything because they also love it as is. And. Without making high elves. Reactive or alkiance races attractive the player base will never shift towards alliance again enough for their voices to carry the weight blood elf fan voices die

High Elves can still happen...at their outpost of Silverglade Refuge, whilst the majority of Quel'Thalas remains as a Blood Elf themed zone.

Their was actually a dev interview would stated that, for Quel'Thalas and Zul'Aman - their focuses were just Blood Elves and Trolls

But you'd have to be an idiot, if you thought that Quel'Thalas was going to be anything other than what they've shown. It's a Blood Elf paradise, with a bit of Void Elf and High Elf flare to the South West.

[Mace]

High Elves can still happen...at their outpost of Silverglade Refuge, whilst the majority of Quel'Thalas remains as a Blood Elf themed zone.

true that could happen, but why not also shrae Silvermoon?

I still remember when nightborne went horde with a city, and void elves went alliance without one.

IT still feels biased against the alliance and it's unnecessary.. what is the big deal about Silvermoon and Suramar being shared by their native elves or one having each? Yet, it's when they do this stuff that players feel their side is being cheated and the very best stuff keeps having a horde label plastered on it

I don't think that is good or fair.. and i just htink it's un-necessary angst amongst the fans, the type that puts people off rather than draws them to.

Their was actually a dev interview would stated that, for Quel'Thalas and Zul'Aman - their focuses were just Blood Elves and Trolls

But you'd have to be an idiot, if you thought that Quel'Thalas was going to be anything other than what they've shown. It's a Blood Elf paradise, with a bit of Void Elf and High Elf flare to the South West.

Well yeah, ofc blood elves were going to have a focus, but that never meant high elves and void elves were not going to have a part of it. Legion had night elves as a focus, but i distinctly remember the Darnassians hardly featuring at all amongst all the Night elven groups and then the night elf sub-race, the Nightborne when playable as horde too, making quite a large central theme of the expansion, while still night elven based, rather being for the horde ... the equivalent is if the ovoid elves played a central role in Quel'thalas, for the end level zone and the story focus of 12.1.

Because this happened with the Nightborne /night elves, I don't think it is unfair or unreasonable for that to happen with the blood elves/void elves, and it doesn't stop the main levelling zones being about them either.

The blood elf horde faction got a lot more focus in Midnight than the Alliance night elf faction did in Legion. So it seems the horde faction is all about the mega Quel'Thalas zone, whereas in legion the Darnassians only had the small role in the battle for Suramar, while neutral night elves were hte focus of all the other zones.

[Tanaria]

true that could happen, but why not also shrae Silvermoon?

I still remember when nightborne went horde with a city, and void elves went alliance without one.

IT still feels biased against the alliance and it's unnecessary.. what is the big deal about Silvermoon and Suramar being shared by their native elves or one having each? Yet, it's when they do this stuff that players feel their side is being cheated and the very best stuff keeps having a horde label plastered on it

I don't think that is good or fair.. and i just htink it's un-necessary angst amongst the fans, the type that puts people off rather than draws them to.
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You can't expect me to have any sympathy when what you wanted was the exact same thing, only faction flipped.
What's the big deal about Silvermoon and Suramar being shared? They belong to Sin'dorei and Shal'dorei.
Night Elves and High Elves evidently, don't come before them when it comes to those locations.

Blood Elves and Nightborne can go without anything, yet Night Elves and High Elves can have anything and everything.

I don't really care about how Night and High Elf fans feel in that regard

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Well yeah, ofc blood elves were going to have a focus, but that never meant high elves and void elves were not going to have a part of it. Legion had night elves as a focus, but i distinctly remember the Darnassians hardly featuring at all amongst all the Night elven groups and then the night elf sub-race, the Nightborne when playable as horde too, making quite a large central theme of the expansion, while still night elven based, rather being for the horde ... the equivalent is if the ovoid elves played a central role in Quel'thalas, for the end level zone and the story focus of 12.1.

Because this happened with the Nightborne /night elves, I don't think it is unfair or unreasonable for that to happen with the blood elves/void elves, and it doesn't stop the main levelling zones being about them either.

The blood elf horde faction got a lot more focus in Midnight than the Alliance night elf faction did in Legion. So it seems the horde faction is all about the mega Quel'Thalas zone, whereas in legion the Darnassians only had the small role in the battle for Suramar, while neutral night elves were hte focus of all the other zones.

Your trying to conflagrate a neutral zone at the time and a Horde zone, currently.

Suramar never belonged to the Alliance, just like Eldre'Thalas doesn't belong to the Alliance either.

Silvermoon belongs on the Horde faction as does it's connecting forest of Eversong so it's only right that the Horde faction takes centre stage in this zone because it's a Horde zone

Suramar isn't and never was an Alliance zone

[Mace]

You can't expect me to have any sympathy when what you wanted was the exact same thing, only faction flipped.
What's the big deal about Silvermoon and Suramar being shared? They belong to Sin'dorei and Shal'dorei.
Night Elves and High Elves evidently, don't come before them when it comes to those locations.

Blood Elves and Nightborne can go without anything, yet Night Elves and High Elves can have anything and everything.

I don't really care about how Night and High Elf fans feel in that regard

Well, fair's fair right? if they did it to benefit the horde, why not the alliance. I don'tsee anything bad about that in any way. I also feel it works better for the story of the elves. Elves should prioritise themselves first before the human and orc faction - this is the cloest we can get to a better arrangement both for lore and community and a bit of the more complex state of Wc3 - 5 factions.

But that's just me.

ANd I don't think Suramar and Silvermoon only belong to the sin'dorei and shal'dorei - being Quel'dorei and Kaldorei cities - ren'dorei, kaldorei and quel'dorei all have a right to be there. Ande ven if they did not at all, I still think it wouldbe nice.

Your trying to conflagrate a neutral zone at the time and a Horde zone, currently.

Suramar never belonged to the Alliance, just like Eldre'Thalas doesn't belong to the Alliance either.

Silvermoon belongs on the Horde faction as does it's connecting forest of Eversong so it's only right that the Horde faction takes centre stage in this zone because it's a Horde zone

Suramar isn't and never was an Alliance zone

I'm just approaching it differently. I'm not viewing it in terms off the horde has this and the alliance has this, although that raoutlook favours sharing also because te horde is the major beneficiary.

Suramar never belonged to the Alliance, but it does belong to the night elven people, both the Nightborne and the alliance kaldorei who mostly come from there originally, so I don't see anything wrong with the Alliance elves calling it their capital city also. Suramar exists because of night elf lore, and Silvermoon exists because of High elf lore, so naturally high elves and night elves shoudln't necessarily feel it isn't htier home.

Come on, we both know the lore, those two cities are specicially night elf and high elf city, and while a faction of night elves that became nightborne live there and most of the high elves became blood elves - they don't suddenly lose all rights or connection to the city.

I mean relaly waht's stopping the night elves or high elves and void levs calling Suramar and Silvermoon their capital city ? Just the narrative, they do not belong to either the alliance or horde - they weren't built for the alliance and horde, nor ere they the champions of the alliance and horde.

[Tanaria]

Well, fair's fair right? if they did it to benefit the horde, why not the alliance. I don'tsee anything bad about that in any way. I also feel it works better for the story of the elves. Elves should prioritise themselves first before the human and orc faction - this is the cloest we can get to a better arrangement both for lore and community and a bit of the more complex state of Wc3 - 5 factions.

But that's just me.

ANd I don't think Suramar and Silvermoon only belong to the sin'dorei and shal'dorei - being Quel'dorei and Kaldorei cities - ren'dorei, kaldorei and quel'dorei all have a right to be there. Ande ven if they did not at all, I still think it wouldbe nice.



I'm just approaching it differently. I'm not viewing it in terms off the horde has this and the alliance has this, although that raoutlook favours sharing also because te horde is the major beneficiary.

Suramar never belonged to the Alliance, but it does belong to the night elven people, both the Nightborne and the alliance kaldorei who mostly come from there originally, so I don't see anything wrong with the Alliance elves calling it their capital city also. Suramar exists because of night elf lore, and Silvermoon exists because of High elf lore, so naturally high elves and night elves shoudln't necessarily feel it isn't htier home.

Come on, we both know the lore, those two cities are specicially night elf and high elf city, and while a faction of night elves that became nightborne live there and most of the high elves became blood elves - they don't suddenly lose all rights or connection to the city.

I mean relaly waht's stopping the night elves or high elves and void levs calling Suramar and Silvermoon their capital city ? Just the narrative, they do not belong to either the alliance or horde - they weren't built for the alliance and horde, nor ere they the champions of the alliance and horde.

Well Blizzard, who are the main authors, don't agree and the look of Quel'Thalas and Silvermoon is exactly as it should be. It should be the love letter for Blood Elf fans.

Silvermoon has been remastered in Midnight to be a fully Blood Elf City with it's vibe and feels and colour scheme being "Blood Elf." Same with Quel'Thalas - those Magister Sanctums and Farstrider Lodges are all Blood Elven in HD and that is exactly how it should have been.

Alliance have had their fill of things in Dragonflight with the night elves and the Dream as well as all the Earthen, Dwarf, Human (Arathi) and some small sound bites of Void Elf litter in The War Within.
It is time for the Alliance to just be here for the ride, like the Horde in DF and TWW.

It's an faction flipped and this time, it's the Blood Elves and their homeland, who are important and you can be as in denial as your want... It doesn't change Silvermoon nor Eversong's vibe.

The Alliance can try and share Silvermoon, but I highly doubt they will considering it is basically a Horde City with Horde and Sin'dorei banners all over the place. So, they can stick to that Silverglade Lodgings.

[PastAnalysis]

true that could happen, but why not also shrae Silvermoon?

I still remember when nightborne went horde with a city, and void elves went alliance without one.

IT still feels biased against the alliance and it's unnecessary.. what is the big deal about Silvermoon and Suramar being shared by their native elves or one having each? Yet, it's when they do this stuff that players feel their side is being cheated and the very best stuff keeps having a horde label plastered on it

I don't think that is good or fair.. and i just htink it's un-necessary angst amongst the fans, the type that puts people off rather than draws them to.

Mace, your big problem is that you don’t understand the lore when it comes to the Elves and you don’t understand it because you don’t WANT to understand it. What do I mean? Here’s what I mean…

You want to see all Elves as one entity, anything and anyone that used to be Night Elf as all united and anything that used to be High Elf as all united. But it doesn’t work that way.

In Warcraft lore, races can have political divisions that lead to geopolitical divides/separate countries in the world. The first Elf political divide that led to a geopolitical divide came after War of the Ancients, with Elves led by Tyrande and Malfurion naively believing they could somehow stop the Burning Legion from returning if they just outlawed mage practice. A faction of Elves vehemently opposed these changes and for that they were banished, leading them on a long voyage until they made their way to their new home that they called Quel’thalas. Those Elves that didn’t get banished remained Night Elves, but those that were banished renamed themselves High Elves in reference to the old Highborne cast.

Of all the political divides that you’re most willing to accept, this divide seems to be the one you respect the most with you reserving certain spots for Night Elves and certain spots for High Elves. But you are completely opposed to recognizing any other geopolitical splits and all seems to stem from your desire for Elves to be more unified. Guess what? Blizzard has long disagreed with you and it all started in Warcraft 3, the very point in time that they revealed to the public anything about Night Elf lore.

Here are the other geopolitical Elf divides you can’t acknowledge. There’s two divides you don’t recognize.

High Elves and Blood Elves ARE a political divide which resulted in a geopolitical divide. The political divide was the product of various decisions back when they were all High Elves. The first of those decisions came when a portion of High Elves decided to move to Quel’Danil Lodge in Hinterlands, gradually weaning themselves off of magical addiction in a tranquil area with their Wildhammer Dwarf allies. The second decision that led to the later Blood Elf/High Elf divide came at the end of the Second War. After the Second War, King Anasterian had the High Elves of Quel’Thalas leave the Alliance because of the causalities suffered by the Horde. A portion of High Elf society disagreed with this decision and left to live in Alliance cities, primarily Dalaran which many High Elves helped create and which had lots of magical reserves. The two decisions I just described ignited a geopolitical divide after the Scourge Invasion on Quel’thalas. Those Elves that stayed in Quel’thalas and survived the invasion were suffering from a deadly withdrawal with Scourge and Amani threatening to wipe them out. These Elves decided to rename themselves Blood Elves in honor and remembrance of their fallen kin. At this point in time there is only a political divide between Elves that stayed in Quel’thalas and those that left.

The following events caused this political divide to widen into a geopolitical divide as well. The new leader of Quel’thalas, Prince Kael’Thas, assigned Lor’themar Theron as Regent Lord and sought out the help of the Alliance, but the Alliance at the time was under the command of Garithos who held a grudge against the Elves of Quel’thalas for leaving the Alliance. Garithos put Kael’Thas and his troop on nearly impossible missions and during one such mission an overwhelmed Kael’Thas accepted Naga aid. Garithos was outraged, viewing this as a betrayal, and set Kael’Thas and his troop for execution in Dalaran. Dalaran Elves and Alliance forces passively stood by as this happened, refusing to intervene. But the Naga that helped Kael’Thas returned, broke them out of prison, and with a small portal traveled to Outlands to get assistance from Illidan in curing the Blood Elves of their magical addiction. Illidan said that there was no cure but that their addiction could be satiated by extracting mana from living things, otherwise known as mana tapping. Kael’Thas had one of his Magi, Rommath return to Quel’thalas with this knowledge along with Fel crystals and a Naaru. Rommath returned and taught mana tapping, but a portion of Blood Elves opposed the practice. For that reason Lor’themar exiled those Elves for fear he couldn’t lead a divided people. Those exiled Elves relocated to Quel’Lithien Lodge in Eastern Plaguelands. After this happened, Sylvanas, the former Ranger General of Quel’thalas, sent Forsaken aid to the Blood Elves to help fight off the Scourge, and she argued for the Horde to admit the Blood Elves in. Thrall and Cairne came to Quel’thalas for peace talks. Lor’themar accepted as time was running out for Quel’thalas and no one else but the Forsaken and Horde came to assist. Thrall and Cairne were honored to help out another face facing extinction and extended the hand of aid. Lorthemar accepted. After that, the Blood Elves weren’t formally admitted until they proved themselves and this came in the form of defeating Dar’khan Drathir. At this point, the political divide between High Elves and Blood Elves became a geopolitical divide too since High Elves out of choice chose the Alliance over their fellow Quel’thalas Elves.

Night Elves and Nightborne ARE a political divide which resulted from a geopolitical divide. After the War of the Ancients, Night Elves led by Tyrande and Malfurion didn’t just outlaw mage practice for thousands of years. They also cut contact with any places that used to be Mage favoring under Azshara’s rule. One of the areas they cut off contact to was Suramar City, because it was a Mage practicing city under Azshara’s rule and during the War of the Ancients they cut themselves off from the world to save their city. At the same time though, Elves in Suramar city were unaware how Elves fared outside the city as they remained in the protective arcane barrier cut off from sunlight, moonlight, and other Elves. These Elves renamed themselves Nightborne to reflect this lifestyle they adopted. At this point in time, there is only a geopolitical divide. Plain and simple.

The geopolitical divide could have been mended but it wasn’t. When the Burning Legion returned during the Legion expansion, the then ruler of Nightborne cooperated with the Legion to save their city. Nightborne under Thalyssra rebelled, were cut off from the city’s magic supply, fell into lethal magical withdrawal, and were aided by an individual and various groups. They were aided by Valewalker Farodin working in his individual capacity as he helped cure the Nightborne of their addiction; at NO POINT did Farodin say or imply he was with the Darnassian faction of Elves. In addition to Farodin, Alliance and Horde adventurers, a large force of Blood Elves, and more moderate forces of Night Elves and High Elves assisted in defeating Elisande and taking back the city. At the start of the conflict, Tyrande being the Darnassian leader, who remembered how Suramar City abandoned her in the War of the Ancients, dismissed Thalyssra as someone who might betray in the future. But that didn’t happen, Elisande was defeated, and the Nightborne under Thalyssra reclaimed the city. After this incident, the Nightborne were ready to join the larger geopolitical world and Thalyssra thought that the Night Elves would be a natural fit. But the Night Elves didn’t come, prioritizing their fallout after the Burning of Teldrassil. Instead, it was Lady Liadrin that came; she was of the Blood Elves that dedicated a larger fighting force during the campaign against Elisande. The Blood Elves sympathized with the Nightborne as their story of being addicted to magic and having their leader turn to the Burning Legion deeply mirrored the Blood Elves’ story. Lady Liadrin invited Thalyssra to the Blood Elf capital and after witnessing the strength and independence the Blood Elves had achieved under the Horde the Nightborne officially joined the Horde thereby cementing the geopolitical divide that was previously created and creating a political divide as well.

See what I’m saying? You don’t want to acknowledge for the Blood Elves or the Nightborne that there are political and geopolitical divides. These races are like countries and countries do not always stay united. The story you’ve always wanted where every Elf is unified at the hip is NOT the story of Warcraft and has NEVER BEEN the story of Warcraft.

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Well, fair's fair right? if they did it to benefit the horde, why not the alliance. I don'tsee anything bad about that in any way. I also feel it works better for the story of the elves. Elves should prioritise themselves first before the human and orc faction - this is the cloest we can get to a better arrangement both for lore and community and a bit of the more complex state of Wc3 - 5 factions.

But that's just me.

Correct, this is all JUST YOU. No one else has these concerns. It’s always been JUST YOU.

JUST YOU who is so insistent on Elves being one entity that any time your preferred faction of Elves is excluded you throw a huge hissy fit. What is so incredible is how blinded you are to your massive unfair bias.

In this very comment section, you have called for Highmountain Tauren to be kicked from
Highmountain, ignoring their history in the region due to your massive gaping Night Elf bias and elitism.

In this very comment section, you ignore the geopolitical divide that the Night Elves helped cause and argue Nightborne be kicked from Suramar and Suramar City despite their whole history being tied to that region. Again, your insufferable Night Elf bias and elitism strikes again.

In this very comment section, you ignore the geopolitical divide between Blood Elves and High Elves, arguing to grant High Elves areas completely in spite of their historical decisions to leave Quel’thalas. Your deplorable Pan Elven bias and elitism strikes again.

Learn that no one cares but you, because no one has your insane perspective but YOU.

ANd I don't think Suramar and Silvermoon only belong to the sin'dorei and shal'dorei - being Quel'dorei and Kaldorei cities - ren'dorei, kaldorei and quel'dorei all have a right to be there. Ande ven if they did not at all, I still think it wouldbe nice.

The facts don’t care about your feelings. You are just objectively wrong here. Night Elves chose to cut themselves off from Suramar. High Elves and Void Elves chose to prioritize far off ideals and in so doing cut themselves off from Silvermoon. Deal with it.

Nightborne stayed in Suramar City. It’s their city. Blood Elves chose to stay and fight for Silvermoon City. It’s their city.

Your ideals are insanely contrary to the story. Make a fanfiction. Leave Warcraft Canon. It’s clear Blizzard doesn’t care about your vision and you don’t care about theirs. Why continue to insist on a unity with Blizzard when they don’t respect you?

I’m just approaching it differently. I'm not viewing it in terms off the horde has this and the alliance has this, although that raoutlook favours sharing also because te horde is the major beneficiary.

Suramar never belonged to the Alliance, but it does belong to the night elven people, both the Nightborne and the alliance kaldorei who mostly come from there originally, so I don't see anything wrong with the Alliance elves calling it their capital city also. Suramar exists because of night elf lore, and Silvermoon exists because of High elf lore, so naturally high elves and night elves shoudln't necessarily feel it isn't htier home.

Come on, we both know the lore, those two cities are specicially night elf and high elf city, and while a faction of night elves that became nightborne live there and most of the high elves became blood elves - they don't suddenly lose all rights or connection to the city.

I mean relaly waht's stopping the night elves or high elves and void levs calling Suramar and Silvermoon their capital city ? Just the narrative, they do not belong to either the alliance or horde - they weren't built for the alliance and horde, nor ere they the champions of the alliance and horde.

No. It’s not a Night Elf City and it hasn’t been one for thousands of years.

It used to be a Night Elf city, back before the War of the Ancients. Then the War of the Ancients happened, Nightborne cut the city off from the world and became Nightborne. Remaining Night Elves never bothered to check on it for thousands of years. And then when the Nightborne were exposed to the outside world, they learned the Night Elves had abandoned their mage heritage and that Night Elf leadership was still holding grudges from thousands of years ago.

Silvermoon is not a High Elf city and it hasn’t been one ever since they chose the Alliance over their own homeland. Stop being in denial. Recognize that Blizzard doesn’t care about your vision and because of people like me they never will. You are on your own island. So, why not make your own fanfiction and stop barking up the same tree?

To answer your question of “what’s stopping the night elves or high elves and void elves calling Suramar and Silvermoon their capital city?” Geopolitics no matter how much you want to fight the story on caring about
geopolitics. Suramar City is a Nightborne city. Night Elves are opposed to the Nightborne decisions, so they are excluded. Silvermoon is a Blood Elf city. High Elves and Void Elves are opposed to Blood Elf decisions, so they are excluded. Geopolitics impacts who can go to what cities in real life. Geopolitics impacts who can go to what cities in World of Warcraft. If you want a story where everyone can go to every city, then make your own fanfiction called World of Peacecraft.