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    Quote Originally Posted by Alanar View Post
    This makes no sense..

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    Nope, you did that. The point was still this, which was this about. All the things, kultiran.. etc was just shit you brought up randomly lol.
    I don't care dude, but you are simply trolling here.
    I'm not. But since you think I am, let's end up this debate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by elbleuet View Post
    I'm not. But since you think I am, let's end up this debate.
    You are, by ignoring it again. But sure lets end it here,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mace View Post
    High elf is both a racial name and faction name.
    Yes correct.

    It really shouldnt be that confusing imo. Blood elf/high elf is the only situation here, were we truly can say they are the same race of elves. So the race is simply high elf, which is devived into different groups which some didnt rename themselves after their fallen bretheren and kept using the name high elf. The reasons why, are not very important.

    The other elven races, besides void elves are not the same. High elf is a different elven race then say Kaldorei.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alanar View Post
    You are, by ignoring it again. But sure lets end it here,

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    Yes correct.

    It really shouldnt be that confusing imo. Blood elf/high elf is the only situation here, were we truly can say they are the same race of elves. So the race is simply high elf, which is devived into different groups which some didnt rename themselves after their fallen bretheren and kept using the name high elf. The reasons why, are not very important.

    The other elven races, besides void elves are not the same. High elf is a different elven race then say Kaldorei.
    You see in Europe, we say high elf is a different elven ethnicity than kaldorei. , not a different race. Now troll woudl be a different rae, but you would likely say a different species.

    Well, it is a little confusing if you're new, and if you're on the spectrum, but even those can learn the differences, but for most wow players, who've been around the block for a wile they should know by now the difference.

    While blizzard hasn't outright stated that this is exactly what this is, it's kinda clear. The same thing happens in real life anyway, and irl is even more confusing as different groups get called different things both by different peoples and also in different times, , then mix and mingle too, forming new distinctions.

    I personally don't think any clarification is necessary, the information is all there.. it gets freaky when you consider, terms like elf, high elf and night elf are often terms used in the common language, the speech of the elves is different, and I am suspecting they do not see themselves the way they are classified in character selection and most players do..which is from the human perspective.

    I have gotten the impression that the elves really do not consider themselves as different as we do. I noticed that the high elves don't consider themselves as Highborne, but acknowledge their Highborne ancestry, but the Darnassians, like Tyrande have referred to them as Highborne ..to me that is even more realistic, because to an immortal like elf like Tyrande, being mere descendants is irrelevant. But to the descendants themselves who pride themselves in their independent identity not shackled or mired to the disgrace of the caste, it matters.

    So were those pre-cata night elves in a sense using Highborne as a slur when they were regarding the blood elves? It's likely that it was received as a slur but not necessarily meant as one, just a matter of fact statement laced with contempt as it was made during the TBC pre-patch when the night elves were "warning" the alliance about the blood elves past and role in the War of the Ancients. .

    But wait, the blood elves weren't around in the war of the ancients. Correct, but the Night elves addressing the alliance back then , regarded them as such - did they do so because they allied themselves with Illidan who had ties to the Legion and as such were repeating the same course of action the palace Highborne, of whom the Sunstriders were members were?

    I have thought on these things, and that is waht I concluded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mace View Post
    You see in Europe, we say high elf is a different elven ethnicity than kaldorei. , not a different race. Now troll woudl be a different rae, but you would likely say a different species.

    Well, it is a little confusing if you're new.
    I believe the only confusing bit, is with races such as blood elf/high elf or sand troll/darkspear w/e. These particular situations were the difference are so minor. Troll or high elf should be pretty reasonable to understand they are both two separate races. We should act, how the game treats them as much as possible. Its a not all super complicated.

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    Clear up time:
    So, the datamined Elves are just neutral Kirin Tor Thalassians and Humans who are part of the first few quests when Dalaran comes down.

    The Silver Covenant Arcanists and Sunreaver Fire Mages are equally playing a role in said quests - as far as it goes, none of these are playing a major role long term. As soon as the player meets the Earthen, it's primarily them who you interact with.
    Overall - the feel of these first few quests is just a Human/Thalassian Elf battle effort.

    I assume more Void Elf stuff will come when the Nerubians start their active role.

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    I've played the first High Elf chapter in the Re-Reforged and I say it's beautiful and well done and I think you guys would also like it if you will play or watch a stream of it
    The Alliance gets the Horde's most popular race. The Horde should get the Alliance's most popular race in return. Alteraci Humans for the Horde!

    I make Warcraft 3 Reforged HD custom models and I'm also an HD model reviewer.

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    Something that I find very interesting is to see how in the telogrus update, the blood elves and high elves along with locus walker now became void elves. It is a good way to show us how new void elves are created.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhlor View Post
    Something that I find very interesting is to see how in the telogrus update, the blood elves and high elves along with locus walker now became void elves. It is a good way to show us how new void elves are created.
    I told you all the reason there would be any High Elves in the rift is because they had already decided to become void elves.

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    Soooo according to the new Warcraft Short Story - "A Whisper of Warning", Arator an Alliance character is living in Silvermoon.

    Turalyon, the leader of the Alliance armies, travels to Silvermoon when he feels like to, walking freely in the city and Alleria is permitted to go to Silvermoon escorted.


    Neutral Silvermoon is already a reality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by elbleuet View Post
    Soooo according to the new Warcraft Short Story - "A Whisper of Warning", Arator an Alliance character is living in Silvermoon.

    Turalyon, the leader of the Alliance armies, travels to Silvermoon when he feels like to, walking freely in the city and Alleria is permitted to go to Silvermoon escorted.


    Neutral Silvermoon is already a reality.
    Alleria only has limited access for the void stuff, not for being alliance. Faction peace is a thing and I guess the elves make more sense as a neutral-ish faction not heavily horde-focused, specially if there are members from the alliance like high elves.

    The war is over, so elves are welcomed back to their city I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elbleuet View Post
    Soooo according to the new Warcraft Short Story - "A Whisper of Warning", Arator an Alliance character is living in Silvermoon.

    Turalyon, the leader of the Alliance armies, travels to Silvermoon when he feels like to, walking freely in the city and Alleria is permitted to go to Silvermoon escorted.


    Neutral Silvermoon is already a reality.
    It's pointless.

    The people who still doubted this after November will not be convinced until the Midnight alpha starts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by allegrian View Post
    Alleria only has limited access for the void stuff, not for being alliance. Faction peace is a thing and I guess the elves make more sense as a neutral-ish faction not heavily horde-focused, specially if there are members from the alliance like high elves.

    The war is over, so elves are welcomed back to their city I guess.
    Correct.

    Alleria is kept under watch because of the Void. Not because of the Alliance.

    Arator is more affiliated with the Alliance and yet he lives freely in Silvermoon.
    The Void. A force of infinite hunger. Its whispers have broken the will of dragons... and lured even the titans' own children into madness. Sages and scholars fear the Void. But we understand a truth they do not. That the Void is a power to be harnessed... to be bent by a will strong enough to command it. The Void has shaped us... changed us. But you will become its master. Wield the shadows as a weapon to save our world... and defend the Alliance!

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    Quote Originally Posted by allegrian View Post
    Alleria only has limited access for the void stuff, not for being alliance. Faction peace is a thing and I guess the elves make more sense as a neutral-ish faction not heavily horde-focused, specially if there are members from the alliance like high elves.

    The war is over, so elves are welcomed back to their city I guess.
    Fair enough
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    So, judging by the appearance of Voidlight Everdawn, Verana, Lyria Skystrider and Priest Ennas on Telogrus Rift in the new patch, it is now 100% confirmed that void elves are not just a small group of Umbric's followers, any thalassian elf at any time can become a void elf and even maintain a high elven appearance. This is interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BaumanKing View Post
    So, judging by the appearance of Voidlight Everdawn, Verana, Lyria Skystrider and Priest Ennas on Telogrus Rift in the new patch, it is now 100% confirmed that void elves are not just a small group of Umbric's followers, any thalassian elf at any time can become a void elf and even maintain a high elven appearance. This is interesting.
    As I have been telling you in this very thread since... let me check... 2018.
    The Void. A force of infinite hunger. Its whispers have broken the will of dragons... and lured even the titans' own children into madness. Sages and scholars fear the Void. But we understand a truth they do not. That the Void is a power to be harnessed... to be bent by a will strong enough to command it. The Void has shaped us... changed us. But you will become its master. Wield the shadows as a weapon to save our world... and defend the Alliance!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varodoc View Post
    As I have been telling you in this very thread since... let me check... 2018.
    Oo god this guy /palm.
    Last edited by Alanar; 2024-05-08 at 10:25 AM.

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    Guys ! It's coming !

    More blood elves have officially rejoined the Alliance and we have an explanation for it on Telogrus Isle !!

    One says Silvermoon betrayed its people when they allied with the Horde, another says blood elves should never have abandonned the Alliance.

    For the first time since TBC we see blood elves allied with the Alliance !
    "If you want to play alongside High and Void elves, the Alliance is waiting for you"

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    Quote Originally Posted by BaumanKing View Post
    So, judging by the appearance of Voidlight Everdawn, Verana, Lyria Skystrider and Priest Ennas on Telogrus Rift in the new patch, it is now 100% confirmed that void elves are not just a small group of Umbric's followers, any thalassian elf at any time can become a void elf and even maintain a high elven appearance. This is interesting.
    Damn that is indeed interesting. Blizzard managed to ctrl+c and ctrl+v more void elf npcs.

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    Oh good! A couple lines to explain blood elves with Night Elves...as predicted...

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    Quote Originally Posted by elbleuet View Post
    Guys ! It's coming !

    More blood elves have officially rejoined the Alliance and we have an explanation for it on Telogrus Isle !!

    One says Silvermoon betrayed its people when they allied with the Horde, another says blood elves should never have abandonned the Alliance.

    For the first time since TBC we see blood elves allied with the Alliance !
    But Lyria Skystrider and Ennas are no longer blood elves. They became void elves. They were just able to more or less maintain their previous appearance. Their hairstyle became void-like, and Lyria's eyes turned blue.

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    https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Verana

    Blizzard didn't forget her !

    Turns out she was raised as a dark ranger and followed Alleria on Telogrus Rift.

    Great addition.

    Edit : Umbric also says he hopes one day he'll return to Quel'Thalas...
    Last edited by elbleuet; 2024-05-08 at 01:14 PM.
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