Official High Elf Discussion Megathread

[Cheezits]

One of the devs is currently trying to make Veilwings into a High Elf mount.

https://xcancel.com/Boogily_Woogily/...643331895647#m

[Garrac]

Guys, I ain't gonna lie: if in order to have amani playable high elves must become playable as well, you have my full support, my axe, and my fictional mohawk behind you all the way on the road. I'll have your collective backs until we both get what we've been asking for since 2007.

For de amani. For the high elves. For the burning crusade.

[BaumanKing]

One of the devs is currently trying to make Veilwings into a High Elf mount.

https://xcancel.com/Boogily_Woogily/...643331895647#m

I don't agree with "Dragonhawk too blood elf" at all. The Highvale group of high elves still continue to breed and use them as mounts. They are perfect for both high elves and blood elves.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

One of the devs is currently trying to make Veilwings into a High Elf mount.

https://xcancel.com/Boogily_Woogily/...643331895647#m

As a pro hippogriff extremist this is deeply saddening to see.

[Garrac]

I don't agree with "Dragonhawk too blood elf" at all. The Highvale group of high elves still continue to breed and use them as mounts. They are perfect for both high elves and blood elves.

Akchually, dragonhawks are originally amani

Pd: is that a warhammer fan?

[elbleuet]

Scourge in BC? Night Elves?

They were exiled back in tbc so I don't get your point. They can to help to fight the amani threat because this time they were invited.

Night elves seriously ?

[snatchr]

One of the devs is currently trying to make Veilwings into a High Elf mount.

https://xcancel.com/Boogily_Woogily/...643331895647#m

In theory it works but taking what was previously just a store items fluff text that was ultimately just a teaser for Shadowlands and making it an established official flying mount out of nowhere is pretty jarring. This is a whole can of worms. I prefer it to hippogryphs because that always felt like yet another case of high elves getting night elf hand-me-downs as placeholders (the voice lines and buildings being the others). A blue dragonhawk would have worked fine though. Midnight has some very high elf looking new ones as it is.

[Enrif]

They could always use just a Gryphon. The Hinterlands Wildhammer are not that far away, and there was some new Grpyhons created lateley. Just change the flightmaster to a helpful Wildhammer Dwarf

this one would be nice!
https://www.warcraftmounts.com/mount.php?mountid=1948

or as alternatives, some bird?
https://www.warcraftmounts.com/mount.php?mountid=1399
https://www.warcraftmounts.com/mount.php?mountid=1668

[snatchr]

They could always use just a Gryphon. The Hinterlands Wildhammer are not that far away, and there was some new Grpyhons created lateley. Just change the flightmaster to a helpful Wildhammer Dwarf

this one would be nice!
https://www.warcraftmounts.com/mount.php?mountid=1948

or as alternatives, some bird?
https://www.warcraftmounts.com/mount.php?mountid=1399
https://www.warcraftmounts.com/mount.php?mountid=1668

Yeah I don't mind gryphons. The high elf/wildhammer relationship is something I wish WoW explored more.
https://www.wowhead.com/item=161909/...g-coastwatcher
This would suit them

[MyWholeLifeIsThunder]

In theory it works but taking what was previously just a store items fluff text that was ultimately just a teaser for Shadowlands and making it an established official flying mount out of nowhere is pretty jarring. This is a whole can of worms. I prefer it to hippogryphs because that always felt like yet another case of high elves getting night elf hand-me-downs as placeholders (the voice lines and buildings being the others). A blue dragonhawk would have worked fine though. Midnight has some very high elf looking new ones as it is.

As much as I like dragonhawks, I do think that if they want to keep some cultural separation, they shouldn't have the exact same mounts. And personally i was indeed a fan of the SC hyppogryph.

But IDK, giving them a unique mount that isn't a hand me down from either BE, NE or Dwarves, feels nice.

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or as alternatives, some bird?
https://www.warcraftmounts.com/mount.php?mountid=1399

But indeed, I personally think this would have been much cooler

[Mace]

In classic they were the same thing, this is from the first warlock trainer quest for example.




And of course Illidans demonic tattoos in the WoTA trilogy from the same time were arcane.

I rem ember that quest, I always interpreted that as warlocks were mages who started delving into fel on the alliance said, not that fel was considered as a corrupted form of arcane. As far as I remember, warlocks on the alliance were mages who decided to delve into the corrupt magic the orc warlocks were using. THe distinction was made in the war of the ancients that never presented them as the same thing - if i remember. But I'm not sure if in WC2 days and the LAst Guardian if this was the case, It's been ages since I read that.. Jeff Grub's book was one of the best warcraft books ever written.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

I rem ember that quest, I always interpreted that as warlocks were mages who started delving into fel on the alliance said, not that fel was considered as a corrupted form of arcane. As far as I remember, warlocks on the alliance were mages who decided to delve into the corrupt magic the orc warlocks were using.

Here's a quest that makes it clearer which is also part of the horde warlock quest.

And obviously not being a mage, I wonder if I can trust you at all. I can smell the power of the arcane on you, but you seem to have eluded the stank of corruption that comes so willingly with your kind.

Yes, a warlock... a warlock has come to ask for my help.

Well, what is it I can do for you, <name>?

[Mace]

Here's a quest that makes it clearer which is also part of the horde warlock quest.

Ah, this is horde warlock character?I stand corrected them, it does appear that they may have considered fel a version of the arcane.

But I know blizzard, they could just chalk it down to incomplete knowledge of the warlocks and mages of Azeroth at the time. After all, they called all the various primal forces "magic" and they believed that arcane was the source of all. Perhaps it's later that the Order aligned strand of magic is what is considered pure arcane, and fel is now regarded as separate. Maybe they are all connected, and the cosmic power wheel is just ONE way of understanding the magical power structure and classifying it.

[Tanaria]

Not too long ago you didn't want them anywhere near Quel'thalas, glad you're relaxing htis as you see more and more evidence. It won't end at Silverglade refuge though, why should High elves only have one location .. if the Elven tribes are uniting, do you think it is unity to simply hold an abandoned fortress and sections of hte wood?


They'll want more, and they should have more. But the progression will show firstly why they are divided, then show how they come together and why.

The High Elves themselves, actually disagree with you. Blood Elves and the Horde keep Silvermoon City, as far as the lore goes.

The High Elves have Silverglade Refuge, which is a good zone for an allied race. We can't continue this level of denial.

[Alanar]

@Mace

I really dont know why you mention a bunch of people claiming they are wrong by saying everyone or the horde rather (blood elf fans and nightborne fans) is gate keeping things you appearently want for some weird reason. Literslly everyone can play them if they want. It has been explained multiple times to you, that we want to see the other elves do things differently as its no point duplicating whats already there. If you cant grasp this idea, thats on you.

It again, confirms you are not understanding or reading what has been said to you (for years now) luckily we have in game confirmations about pretty much everything regarding the Nightborne for example that are in direct conflict with what you are saying. I also noticed, your tone towards the horde is getting more and more salty and starting to become horde bashing. We see this now a lot in this thread and its wild how finatical and snarky some are here with comments regarding the horde.

[elbleuet]

Blizzard really needs to give some explanations about the High Elves and the void elves.
They still fight for Quel'Thalas, they still want to save Silvermoon, yet they remain cast aside and exiled.
Some of them even say they feel it’s no longer their home but they're still there.

That would save us from endless debates.

[Pyrophax]

Blizzard really needs to give some explanations about the High Elves and the void elves.
They still fight for Quel'Thalas, they still want to save Silvermoon, yet they remain cast aside and exiled.
Some of them even say they feel it’s no longer their home but they're still there.

That would save us from endless debates.

And you get it. High Elves comes to help to save the world, into their OLD lands to fight against the Void. They even allowed to settle as far from Silvermoon as possible to prevent "accidents" with local Horde people. But been xenophobic and sociopatic jerks - they refuse to embrace anything new, sticking to the past.
Same thing with Void Elves, who are allowed to be in Quel'thalas, just far away to not being threat for Sunwell.

Its total Alliance favoritism offcourse, setting Alliance places with blue Flight Points in Horde lands of Quel'Thalas. But with next expansions I will totally expect same threatment for another side. Let Horde have Flight Point in Redridge or Duskwood. Far from Stormwind to be threat, but close enough to not feel leaved.
I am joking ofc, devs never give Horde similar attention on par with their favorite blue kid.

[elbleuet]

And you get it. High Elves comes to help to save the world, into their OLD lands to fight against the Void. They even allowed to settle as far from Silvermoon as possible to prevent "accidents" with local Horde people. But been xenophobic and sociopatic jerks - they refuse to embrace anything new, sticking to the past.
Same thing with Void Elves, who are allowed to be in Quel'thalas, just far away to not being threat for Sunwell.

Its total Alliance favoritism offcourse, setting Alliance places with blue Flight Points in Horde lands of Quel'Thalas. But with next expansions I will totally expect same threatment for another side. Let Horde have Flight Point in Redridge or Duskwood. Far from Stormwind to be threat, but close enough to not feel leaved.
I am joking ofc, devs never give Horde similar attention on par with their favorite blue kid.

All warcraft elven races are xenophobic and racist, that's not new.

Blood elf hunters in Zul'Amani even bear the shocking title of 'Troll Hunter,' so please stop with that rhetoric. We all know what elves are like in Warcraft and High Elves are no strangers to that either.

And please. The orcs butchered the High elves and set fire to their lands. The forsaken massacred their kind. They have all reasons to hate you and I'm glad they still do as of 2025.

This is how the Blood Elves should act toward the Horde. They still remember Garithos for his attempted genocide, yet seem to have forgotten everything that happened between them and the Forsaken and Orcs.

And good news for you : the days of the Sunwell are counted. That means the void elves may return to Quel'Thalas one day

[Pyrophax]

All warcraft elven races are xenophobic and racist, that's not new.

Blood elf hunters in Zul'Amani even bear the shocking title of 'Troll Hunter,' so please stop with that rhetoric. We all know what elves are like in Warcraft and High Elves are no strangers to that either.

And please. The orcs butchered the High elves and set fire to their lands. The forsaken massacred their kind. They have all reasons to hate you and I'm glad they still do as of 2025.

This is how the Blood Elves should act toward the Horde. They still remember Garithos for his attempted genocide, yet seem to have forgotten everything that happened between them and the Forsaken and Orcs.

And good news for you : the days of the Sunwell are counted. That means the void elves may return to Quel'Thalas one day

New Well will have a word to you too. Void Elves are Alliance race, they returned to Quel'Thalas already. Windrunner Village, heard of it? As I said, as far from this new Well as they can. and ofc not into Horde politic, right?
Or should we expect trolls in Bel'Ameth/new-Teldrassil counsils too?

[elbleuet]

New Well will have a word to you too. Void Elves are Alliance race, they returned to Quel'Thalas already. Windrunner Village, heard of it? As I said, as far from this new Well as they can. and ofc not into Horde politic, right?
Or should we expect trolls in Bel'Ameth/new-Teldrassil counsils too?

The new well surely won't be made solely of Naaru Light, so that means the Void Elves won't pose a threat to it.

And yes, you're already allowed to go to Bel'Ameth, even though you committed genocide against the very people of that place and you seem to have no problem with that.