Official High Elf Discussion Megathread

[Enrif]

someone on the EU forum transcribed the audio files that deal with the high elves returning to silvermoon

https://eu.forums.blizzard.com/en/wo...-2/595213/2594


i wonder where this will lead too.

for me, the last part about the compact, would be the ideal solution to the high elf discussion. The compact has obviously members that like the horde, and others that like the alliance. We have seen this with pandaren and dracthyr before. Same people, different likes in the factions. Neutral "blood/high" elves would, at least for me, rest the case for high elves entirely.

[TheProphetLord]

someone on the EU forum transcribed the audio files that deal with the high elves returning to silvermoon

https://eu.forums.blizzard.com/en/wo...-2/595213/2594


i wonder where this will lead too.

for me, the last part about the compact, would be the ideal solution to the high elf discussion. The compact has obviously members that like the horde, and others that like the alliance. We have seen this with pandaren and dracthyr before. Same people, different likes in the factions. Neutral "blood/high" elves would, at least for me, rest the case for high elves entirely.

Well this is interesting and lines up with leaks that the Red Shirt Guy highlighted.

I am not sure how I feel about this. I understand the need to come together to protect Silvermoon, but the concern is to be a High Elf would be lost as a result of this.

But maybe this is where Blizzard is going with all of this, bring an end to the demand for High Elves.

[FossilFree]

Just make blood elves and night elves go neutral and allow them to pick a faction like pandaren/dracthyr/earthen. That would be the most fair way of handling it. You could argue some night elves might feel like joining the Horde to give them a voice at the table and perhaps stop the Horde from attacking them again, as they would be allies. With Sylvanas gone, it could make more sense for them to parlay with the Horde too, since they both share the continent of Kalimdor (as opposed to the rest of the Alliance in the Eastern Kingdoms, which are much further away than the Horde capital and lands). Also, they have had historic ties with the tauren through Moonglade and the druids, so they could be the entry point for Horde night elves.

Bonus points for solving the Shadowmeld faction imbalance too.

[Enrif]

Just make blood elves and night elves go neutral and allow them to pick a faction like pandaren/dracthyr/earthen. That would be the most fair way of handling it. You could argue some night elves might feel like joining the Horde to give them a voice at the table and perhaps stop the Horde from attacking them again, as they would be allies. With Sylvanas gone, it could make more sense for them to parlay with the Horde too, since they both share the continent of Kalimdor (as opposed to the rest of the Alliance in the Eastern Kingdoms, which are much further away than the Horde capital and lands). Also, they have had historic ties with the tauren through Moonglade and the druids, so they could be the entry point for Horde night elves.

Bonus points for solving the Shadowmeld faction imbalance too.

night elves are the one race that doesn't make sense to ever go horde.

if we want to put a alliance race neutral we should rather look at draenei, especially after these new draenei showed up in voidstorm

and, it would also be fitting, that blood elves and draenei, races once introduced together, go neutral together too

[Ardenaso]

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is this like the first time we see an explicit interaction between Arator and Vereesa ?

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night elves are the one race that doesn't make sense to ever go horde

should be humans, IMO; we have humans who are friends with Orcs, have Forsaken relatives and have accepted Forsaken; and we still haven't seen the Blackthorn Bandits who served Sylvanas

[Alanar]

That's a nothing comment.

High Elves also had red hair, like one who was part of Sylvanas' Elite Ranger Squad. She was described as having long red hair.

No - Blood Elves are entitled to their own stuff as well and it shouldn't be the case that Void Elves get theirs plus all blood elf stuff, so I'm glad that Ion has stated that everyone will be treated as fairly as possible. It's basically saying "Void Elves aren't getting all Blood Elf stuff."

It goes back to the whole "creating" differences. That was the crux of the high elf debate. Honestly the truth is, I still cant picture more out of high elf then what it is currently.

This issue was basically solved, untill Midnight came and a handfull jumped the gun. It would honestly be satisfying if nothing changes here. Anyway, I hope blizzard understands and continue making the excisting ones strong in their themes instead.

I agree that both void and blood elves should have exclusive costunization options. Void elves already have 90% copy paste. There should be more focus on their own themes respectfully.

[Enrif]

should be humans, IMO; we have humans who are friends with Orcs, have Forsaken relatives and have accepted Forsaken; and we still haven't seen the Blackthorn Bandits who served Sylvanas

i could see humans and orcs among the last line to break in the faction walls crumbling down. Though, it already started with female dracthyr visage, which are basically human models.

I could see the following pairings down the line:
Blood Elf and Draenei
Goblin and Gnome
Tauren and Dwarf
Forsaken and Worgen
Troll and Night Elf
Orc and Human.

After that, or even alongside it for some races, are the allied races.

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is this like the first time we see an explicit interaction between Arator and Vereesa ?

No, we see the first interaction with 11.2.7

[BaumanKing]

It is practically confirmed that Vereesa disbands the Silver Covenant and all high elves are pardoned in Silvermoon. So it seems Blizzard will, sadly, abandon the high elves completely. Now they will all be able to return to Silvermoon and blend in with the blood elves, completely losing their identity.

You can see where this is going because even the High Elf houses (with the blue roofs) are only available to Horde players. This is beta ofc, everything is subject to change, but for now only Horde players can build a Blood Elf house and paint it blue.

[Capivara]

It is practically confirmed that Vereesa disbands the Silver Covenant and all high elves are pardoned in Silvermoon. So it seems Blizzard will, sadly, abandon the high elves completely. Now they will all be able to return to Silvermoon and blend in with the blood elves, completely losing their identity.

You can see where this is going because even the High Elf houses (with the blue roofs) are only available to Horde players. This is beta ofc, everything is subject to change, but for now only Horde players can build a Blood Elf house and paint it blue.

yes, you know why? bc they are the same race with just diff names, as everyone is always saying.

[Enrif]

It is practically confirmed that Vereesa disbands the Silver Covenant and all high elves are pardoned in Silvermoon. So it seems Blizzard will, sadly, abandon the high elves completely. Now they will all be able to return to Silvermoon and blend in with the blood elves, completely losing their identity.

You can see where this is going because even the High Elf houses (with the blue roofs) are only available to Horde players. This is beta ofc, everything is subject to change, but for now only Horde players can build a Blood Elf house and paint it blue.

i hope this builds up into making blood elves a neutral choice for players. If they mix high elves into silvermoon, there is no need to keep it faction locked, as the city houses literarily both factions then. If it is just to remove high elves to appease the horde, it shows again the horde bias and the disrespect the alliance gets since vanilla

[Alanar]

It is practically confirmed that Vereesa disbands the Silver Covenant and all high elves are pardoned in Silvermoon. So it seems Blizzard will, sadly, abandon the high elves completely. Now they will all be able to return to Silvermoon and blend in with the blood elves, completely losing their identity. .

High elves specifcally were already living in silvermoon prio to this tho. So that part aint new really. Wether these left overs end up in Silvermoon or with the void elves doesnt matter tbh. If it stays like this, Its in line whats already available with the horde and alliance. As they are in both.

[BaumanKing]

i hope this builds up into making blood elves a neutral choice for players. If they mix high elves into silvermoon, there is no need to keep it faction locked, as the city houses literarily both factions then. If it is just to remove high elves to appease the horde, it shows again the horde bias and the disrespect the alliance gets since vanilla

Tbh both blood elves and void elves can easily be made neutral. Void elves are also pardoned in Silvermoon, and they no longer pose a threat to the Sunwell. So what keeps some of them from returning to the Horde?

[Mace]

I am kinda upset to see that roofs of the blood elf house exteriors can be blue (the color is even called "high elf blue" in the settings), but they are faction locked. This means I won't be able to build a high elf house for my void elf. Blizzard is simply laughing at us.

Ideally I want night elf civilization marble buildings nad rural ones availabe too - -the civilization marble in places like Suramar, Nar'thalas, Meredil and Tel'anor are quite nice when pristine (as seen in Suramar) and I believe they should be accessible to both Alliance (night elves) and horde (Nightborne) because the Nightborne are essentially pre-sundering night elves slightly mutated just as the void elves are slightly mutated blood elves. Their rural architecture would 100% be kaldorei, just like the city architecture is kaldorei - players should have the option to choose either based on what aesthetic they want for their house.

And void elf/high elf buildings should be be available as recoloured versions of the blood elves, by simply having blue for high elf and purple for void elf instead of red.

Therefore both shared.

[shoc]

yes, you know why? bc they are the same race with just diff names, as everyone is always saying.

Yeah, they are different political parties, at most lol

[Alanar]

Tbh both blood elves and void elves can easily be made neutral. Void elves are also pardoned in Silvermoon, and they no longer pose a threat to the Sunwell. So what keeps some of them from returning to the Horde?

Or we just leave it as it is and nothing changes. Same outcome. High elves are in both factions nowadays. Not just horde.

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Yeah, they are different political parties, at most lol

Remember when it was all about one single eye color? They will find new out of thin air argument and continue anyway. We already saw this happen multiple times.

[Capivara]

Yeah, they are different political parties, at most lol

RIGHT? Its funny how elfheads get mad about somthing that have beeing said over and over since TBC.

if blizz set the stone and consolidate this unification, they will be the ENTIRE EXPANSION talking about how blizzard "DIDN'T MAKE ELFS RIGHT "

[BaumanKing]

High elves are in both factions nowadays.

High elves don't have voidform, purple blood or echo in their voices.

[Alanar]

High elves don't have voidform, purple blood or echo in their voices.

Here we go again lol.

Anyway my point still stands, nothing have to change and it would be the same outcome.

[Sauredfangs]

I wish they can replace High Elf Buildings that are using Night elf building appearances (like the ones in Eastern Plaguelands, Hinterlands, and Loch Modan) with Blood Elf structures just with blue roofs.

[SinR]

I Honestly think at this point we should just have basic races with Subrace variants.

Humans? Stormwind Humans and Kul Tiran Humans.
Gnomes? Gnomeregon Gnomes and Mechagon Gnomes.
Elves? Blood, Void, Night, Night2,