Official High Elf Discussion Megathread

[FossilFree]

Neither blood elves or void elves are high elves. Blood elves have been exposed to fel, even gaining green eyes. Void elves have been exposed to cosmic void, gaining purple eyes, skin, and hair. Both have been mutated by those energies, and are no longer genetically the same as high elves. They are biologically and culturally distinct.

[Alanar]

Neither blood elves or void elves are high elves. Blood elves have been exposed to fel, even gaining green eyes. Void elves have been exposed to cosmic void, gaining purple eyes, skin, and hair. Both have been mutated by those energies, and are no longer genetically the same as high elves. They are biologically and culturally distinct.

They "used to be" in almost every case really. Unless you have a blood elf who was born in this time, then it doesnt apply for example, but that should be obvious.

As of being culturally different? Barely I would say and void elves were actually the only ones here who were mutated, changed their skin, eyes and have tentacles. Blood elves only got exposure and their eyes were the only thing to change. Blood elves basically maintained everything besides their eyes, which was also explained some of fel in their eyes is possible to wore off as well, so you can have blood elves with blue eyes as well.. So no in the end, for blood elves it comes down to a political difference as the exposure almost didnt change their look. Its not the same as void elves who are suppose to look different.

High elves for the matter are there in both factions outside of the blood elves and void elves.

[Joshuaj]

They made blue colorations for the Belf houses specifically so players could RP as High Elves LMAO

[Lorgar Aurelian]

Neither blood elves or void elves are high elves. Blood elves have been exposed to fel, even gaining green eyes. Void elves have been exposed to cosmic void, gaining purple eyes, skin, and hair. Both have been mutated by those energies, and are no longer genetically the same as high elves. They are biologically and culturally distinct.

The green eyes were just a temporary effect that goes away with time it’s not a lasting genetic change, all blood elf baby’s will be the exact same as high elf ones for example and not have green eyes now that there off Fel.

The blood and high elf split is purely political at this point.

[Rhlor]

Neither blood elves or void elves are high elves. Blood elves have been exposed to fel, even gaining green eyes. Void elves have been exposed to cosmic void, gaining purple eyes, skin, and hair. Both have been mutated by those energies, and are no longer genetically the same as high elves. They are biologically and culturally distinct.

The developers said they added high elf customization. Customization exists; you can play as a high elf, and it has for years.

[MyWholeLifeIsThunder]

The green eyes were just a temporary effect that goes away with time it’s not a lasting genetic change, all blood elf baby’s will be the exact same as high elf ones for example and not have green eyes now that there off Fel.

The blood and high elf split is purely political at this point.

Considering it is unlikely they will ever take away a customization option, I wonder if they will revise the lore behind green eyes. Might be as easy to say some elves' eyes were simply more susceptible to the radiation and it became a permanent trait, like orcish green skin.

Of course besides BE that just don't really care for the Sunwell, have kept their distance or actively keep using fel magic.

With the resolution of the Sunwell post Void Invasion, I wonder if how it affects eye "cleansing" will be affected.

[Jaggler]

Considering it is unlikely they will ever take away a customization option, I wonder if they will revise the lore behind green eyes. Might be as easy to say some elves' eyes were simply more susceptible to the radiation and it became a permanent trait, like orcish green skin.

Of course besides BE that just don't really care for the Sunwell, have kept their distance or actively keep using fel magic.

With the resolution of the Sunwell post Void Invasion, I wonder if how it affects eye "cleansing" will be affected.

Some Blood Elves consuming minute amounts of Fel magic to keep green eyes because they like the look, would be pretty funny trivia

[MyWholeLifeIsThunder]

Some Blood Elves consuming minute amounts of Fel magic to keep green eyes because they like the look, would be pretty funny trivia

"Through a combination of organic magic emission enhancers,you can keep your emerald orbs keep-a-glowing!!

*whisper* We can also get you the real stuff, if you want"

[Lorgar Aurelian]

Considering it is unlikely they will ever take away a customization option, I wonder if they will revise the lore behind green eyes. Might be as easy to say some elves' eyes were simply more susceptible to the radiation and it became a permanent trait, like orcish green skin.

Of course besides BE that just don't really care for the Sunwell, have kept their distance or actively keep using fel magic.

With the resolution of the Sunwell post Void Invasion, I wonder if how it affects eye "cleansing" will be affected.

Murderrow is still doing Fel stuff and Id assume the magisters are as well so Id think it would just come down to where blood elfs live in the city or what job they have that would determine rather they hold onto the green eyes or not.

[Ielenia]

Its subjective. To High Elf fans - for sure.
For Horde fans too.
For average player - not so much.

So you agree that overall it was a very bad decision? After all, you just said it's bad for both fans of Alliance and Horde.

The "average player" (i.e. those that don't care about lore) have no weight in this discussion.

Also - much overreacting. worst thought-out attempt in WoW development history.?
We have much variants for "worst" decisions. Starting bringing BEs to Horde and retconing Draenei to entire WoD story and SL.

Fine. "One of the worst thought-out attempts in WoW development history". Is that better?

[Pyrophax]

So you agree that overall it was a very bad decision? After all, you just said it's bad for both fans of Alliance and Horde.

Sure. Void Elves were a mistake. Alliance should have High Elves as AR. If they want go that way with Void powers - keep Umbric as Void Mutant (akin Stukov from SC2) aside Alleria. That would be cool as hell. But alas - we got what we got.

[TheProphetLord]

I think the easiest way to solve it is if you give Void Elves the Paladin class, much like how Draenei and Lightforged Draenei have access to Warlocks. You also give them the option to turn off the racial where they turn voidy in combat, in a similar way to how you have the Worgen and Dracthyr toggles.

Ideally, some more hairstyles that are less rugged/emo looking too, but that would likely be the easiest fix and satisfy enough of the player base?

My personal view and desire though, is still give High Elves as a playable race, give them Paladins and/or Druids (due to their time with Night Elves and in the wilds), don't give them access to Demon Hunter as a class to balance it. Give them a few tattoo options like Alleria has. Stormwind can be their 'starting zone' and put a couple of High Elf buildings at the back of Stormwind.

Proposed High Elf classes:

Warrior
Paladin
Hunter
Rogue
Mage
Warlock
Priest
Monk
Druid (a harder sell I know)
Death Knight

At the same time you give proper Amani Trolls to the Horde with these classes:

Warrior
Hunter
Rogue
Mage
Warlock
Priest
Shaman
Druid
Monk
Death Knight

[Alanar]

I think the easiest way to solve it is if you give Void Elves the Paladin class

That is already happening and its not just going to be for void elves only. This is pretty much the start.

The datamined void elf charger, just goes hand in hand with the inigial goal that they announced way back and that was the goal is to make more and more classes universal. They said it would take longer for things like druid and pala, because of the models. I am expecting more as well, including night elf and kul tiran paladin. The charger were also datamined a little while ago, including another charger, so it checks out.

[The-Shan]

They made blue colonizations for the Belf houses specifically so players could RP as High Elves LMAO

awkward that you cant build them in the alliance neighborhood though

[Enrif]

but that would likely be the easiest fix and satisfy enough of the player base?

That depends on who you ask.

For me: Make Blood Elves and Void Elves both neutral races, like Pandaren, Dracthyr, Earthen, Harranir. And if the horde whiners are not satisfied with that, i throw happily the draenei and lightforged on that too.

With Midnight a Horde Void Elf could be a survivor of xal'ataths assault instead of Umbrics researchers. And a Alliance Blood Elf would be any one of the many high elves.

Most simple solution. No new races needed, no new assets needed, no new mounts needed, no new zones needed.

[TheProphetLord]

That depends on who you ask.

For me: Make Blood Elves and Void Elves both neutral races, like Pandaren, Dracthyr, Earthen, Harranir. And if the horde whiners are not satisfied with that, i throw happily the draenei and lightforged on that too.

With Midnight a Horde Void Elf could be a survivor of xal'ataths assault instead of Umbrics researchers. And a Alliance Blood Elf would be any one of the many high elves.

Most simple solution. No new races needed, no new assets needed, no new mounts needed, no new zones needed.

There has been some data in the beta which might suggests that.

https://imgur.com/a/rjx3k87

This is what came with the message:

One of my connections sent me these. But don't get your hopes up. I did some digging and what it potentially means is that the Silver Covenant and Sunreavers are teaming up. But the numbers means there is a string for a potential neutral elf Allied race addition coming down the road. But.. it could actually be nothing. We won't know until more information is put out in data.

Not sure if this has been mentioned yet already. But it’s been through my Warcraft circles on discord so thought to share it here.

[Enrif]

There has been some data in the beta which might suggests that.

https://imgur.com/a/rjx3k87

This is what came with the message:

One of my connections sent me these. But don't get your hopes up. I did some digging and what it potentially means is that the Silver Covenant and Sunreavers are teaming up. But the numbers means there is a string for a potential neutral elf Allied race addition coming down the road. But.. it could actually be nothing. We won't know until more information is put out in data.

Not sure if this has been mentioned yet already. But it’s been through my Warcraft circles on discord so thought to share it here.

if this is legit, it is interesting, and might be the best solution to the whole debate. Tough... that it is named Silversun (i know about the silversun faction thing) makes me a bit uneasy. I hope they don't pull another void elf on them and make them, SUN elves that have burning bright skin or something like that.

[TheProphetLord]

if this is legit, it is interesting, and might be the best solution to the whole debate. Tough... that it is named Silversun (i know about the silversun faction thing) makes me a bit uneasy. I hope they don't pull another void elf on them and make them, SUN elves that have burning bright skin or something like that.

I fully trust the person who sent it my way, but as for its origins I can't speak to. What I do know is that the Silversun thing wasn't out yet before this was found, apparently.

Nothing else has appeared since I was sent this. So, we'll see I guess.

[Enrif]

I fully trust the person who sent it my way, but as for its origins I can't speak to. What I do know is that the Silversun thing wasn't out yet before this was found, apparently.

Nothing else has appeared since I was sent this. So, we'll see I guess.

this was found before the silversun stuff? interesting, as the silversun compact stuff was in an earlier build sunsilver accord instead... If it is legit, someone else should also be able to find it in the beta files for verification?

[TheProphetLord]

this was found before the silversun stuff? interesting, as the silversun compact stuff was in an earlier build sunsilver accord instead... If it is legit, someone else should also be able to find it in the beta files for verification?

I've been asking and waiting around to see if there anything else. Obviously not seen anything or else I would have posted it here. I am surprised I was the first one who posted this here. Which might mean it isn't legit and therefore a waste of time, which I hope not, considering the credibility I have in the person who sent it my way.

Something to keep an eye out for on twitter/x and anywhere else (not sure where else to look), especially since this could be a patch thing and not obviously for launch as we are getting the Haranir.