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    while the high elves return to silvermoon, they don't become horde, and make it clear so that they will never forget the horde atrocities.
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    I mean, trying to worm out of the way it's the WORLDSOUL saga... yah. It's Azeroth reaching out, not some light fairy.
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    Just like how the belves will never forget the Amani's atrocities?

    In time, the helves will assimilate with the belves and disappear completely. The disbandment of the Silver Covenant is the first sign of this. Vereesa could have continued to lead this faction under the Alliance banner, but instead chose not to.

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    well, let's remember this is only from datamined voice files. It is not testable on beta and release has not come yet either. We don't know how it will actually unfold.
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    I mean, trying to worm out of the way it's the WORLDSOUL saga... yah. It's Azeroth reaching out, not some light fairy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BaumanKing View Post

    In time, the helves will assimilate with the belves and disappear completely. The disbandment of the Silver Covenant is the first sign of this. Vereesa could have continued to lead this faction under the Alliance banner, but instead chose not to.
    Seems like that was always the intent. High elves are a token race and both horde and alliance already have a thallasian elf forefront playable in the form of blood elves and .. void elves. While both having the option to look like a high elf as they are in both. Basically what most people have been saying dor a while. So nothing new.

    The conclusion seems pointing towards that. As for the void elves, I dont think it will do them much justice to just be in Silvermoon. They kinda feel out of place there. A super void fortress and massive expanded void elf starting area would have been more fitting for them and much cooler. The Silvermoom envoirment (very bright, red and light) doesnt help either. Anyway, It doesnt matter. Nothing really changes in the end, we will have the same playable races. No side switching non sense or neutral stuff. Just some weird story that ends in tolerating eachother more, seems to be the story here and nothing more.

    With nightborne and night elves adding their share at the dawnwell as well. I wonder if these non thallasian elves have more story then just that. It all seems like a rather quick story and done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enrif View Post
    while the high elves return to silvermoon, they don't become horde, and make it clear so that they will never forget the horde atrocities.
    I think it would be an interesting story beat. High Elves have a choice: They can either go and live in Silvermoon as a neutral entity/join the Horde or stay in the Alliance and start in Stormwind (if that one datamin posted way earlier in the thread is true). It would make way more sense that the High Elves are the ones to go neutral, not the Blood Elves, considering their miniscule numbers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheProphetLord View Post
    There has been some data in the beta which might suggests that.

    https://imgur.com/a/rjx3k87

    This is what came with the message:

    One of my connections sent me these. But don't get your hopes up. I did some digging and what it potentially means is that the Silver Covenant and Sunreavers are teaming up. But the numbers means there is a string for a potential neutral elf Allied race addition coming down the road. But.. it could actually be nothing. We won't know until more information is put out in data.

    Not sure if this has been mentioned yet already. But it’s been through my Warcraft circles on discord so thought to share it here.
    This is actually a huge find and I'm surprised, if it's real, that it hasn't been reported on. Though it could be the dataminers being hush hush.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaggler View Post
    I think it would be an interesting story beat. High Elves have a choice: They can either go and live in Silvermoon as a neutral entity/join the Horde or stay in the Alliance and start in Stormwind (if that one datamin posted way earlier in the thread is true). It would make way more sense that the High Elves are the ones to go neutral, not the Blood Elves, considering their miniscule numbers.
    going neutral would mean available to horde and alliance. That doesn't make sense for high elves who have strong reasons to not join the horde. Meanwhile blood elves have more reason to be neutral as they used to be allied with the alliance when they still called themself high elves. So neutral blood elves make more sense as those who want can stay horde, and we have seen enough blood elves ally with the alliance. For one Valeera, and for other the void elves, who were blood elves before.
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    I mean, trying to worm out of the way it's the WORLDSOUL saga... yah. It's Azeroth reaching out, not some light fairy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enrif View Post
    going neutral would mean available to horde and alliance. That doesn't make sense for high elves who have strong reasons to not join the horde. Meanwhile blood elves have more reason to be neutral as they used to be allied with the alliance when they still called themself high elves. So neutral blood elves make more sense as those who want can stay horde, and we have seen enough blood elves ally with the alliance. For one Valeera, and for other the void elves, who were blood elves before.
    What i am talking about is that it doesn't make sense for the nation of Silvermoon/Quel'thalas to become neutral, not individuals. As long as Silvermoon/Quel'thalas remains politically aligned with the Horde, i don't really care.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BaumanKing View Post
    Just like how the belves will never forget the Amani's atrocities?

    In time, the helves will assimilate with the belves and disappear completely. The disbandment of the Silver Covenant is the first sign of this. Vereesa could have continued to lead this faction under the Alliance banner, but instead chose not to.
    To me its not a disbandment but absorption of Sunreavers by Silver Covenant. Look at their tabard and gear


    So they are pretty much Silvermoon Alliance elves. Yes, even Sunreaver ones. That makes them neutral by definition. Lead by Vereesa, Alliance war criminal

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enrif View Post
    while the high elves return to silvermoon, they don't become horde, and make it clear so that they will never forget the horde atrocities.
    Likewise Sunreaver people will never forget the Alliance atrocities.
    But that will be swept under the carpet now.

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    Not talking about the color.. , but I like the general shape of the armor. The hip piece and gloves etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alanar View Post
    Not talking about the color.. , but I like the general shape of the armor. The hip piece and gloves etc.
    Its mage set from Nerub-ar, not racial. Belt from mage tower or ToS.
    Silversun is regular 3-piece set with tabard, cloak and shoulders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pyrophax View Post
    To me its not a disbandment but absorption of Sunreavers by Silver Covenant. Look at their tabard and gear


    So they are pretty much Silvermoon Alliance elves. Yes, even Sunreaver ones. That makes them neutral by definition. Lead by Vereesa, Alliance war criminal

    Soon you will bow before your queen, Vereesa Windrunner.

    (I still haven't figured out why the SilverSun compact is High-elf themed)
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    Quote Originally Posted by elbleuet View Post
    Soon you will bow before your queen, Vereesa Windrunner.

    (I still haven't figured out why the SilverSun compact is High-elf themed)
    I wouldn't be surprised if it's just a case of "We have made these High Elf assets for NPCs and have no other place to put them". If the Compact actually becomes relevant, they will probably have an actual design for them. The building for the compact on the edge of silvermoon actually has the High Elf and the Blood Elf flag outside, so it's not like silver/blue are the only colors for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaggler View Post
    I wouldn't be surprised if it's just a case of "We have made these High Elf assets for NPCs and have no other place to put them". If the Compact actually becomes relevant, they will probably have an actual design for them. The building for the compact on the edge of silvermoon actually has the High Elf and the Blood Elf flag outside, so it's not like silver/blue are the only colors for it.
    They have red jewel!! So its pure Horde favoritism. I wish they at least do golden phoenix too. Or make it black/dark-grey. Neutral colors for both sides. Also yes - probably "We have made these High Elf assets for NPCs and have no other place to put them".
    But in serious note - shame that Sunreaver/SC is just swept away by friendship magic and not resolved. If datamine is true - they just be besties, after all that time and deed, from both sides.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pyrophax View Post
    They have red jewel!! So its pure Horde favoritism. I wish they at least do golden phoenix too. Or make it black/dark-grey. Neutral colors for both sides. Also yes - probably "We have made these High Elf assets for NPCs and have no other place to put them".
    But in serious note - shame that Sunreaver/SC is just swept away by friendship magic and not resolved. If datamine is true - they just be besties, after all that time and deed, from both sides.
    Personally don't care a lot about the Sunreavers (anymore) since Aethas spends more time groveling around Dalaran than he cares about Silvermoon. As long as Silvermoon as a whole isn't neutral (and it doesn't appear to be) i couldn't care less in the grand scheme of things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pyrophax View Post
    To me its not a disbandment but absorption of Sunreavers by Silver Covenant. Look at their tabard and gear


    So they are pretty much Silvermoon Alliance elves. Yes, even Sunreaver ones. That makes them neutral by definition. Lead by Vereesa, Alliance war criminal

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    Likewise Sunreaver people will never forget the Alliance atrocities.
    But that will be swept under the carpet now.
    Silversun is supposed to be led by Vereesa and Aethas

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pyrophax View Post
    Its mage set from Nerub-ar, not racial. Belt from mage tower or ToS.
    Silversun is regular 3-piece set with tabard, cloak and shoulders.
    I thought it was mostly new, but oke cheers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BaumanKing View Post
    Just like how the belves will never forget the Amani's atrocities?
    In the Midnight campaign thus far, the only Blood Elf that seems to be making inroads towards forgetting the Amani's atrocities is Liadrin - the rest of them, while grudingly admitting that the Amani weren't actually behind what happened with the Lightbloom in the Eversong Woods, don't really go as far as forgiving them or even walking back their obvious prejudice.
    "We're more of the love, blood, and rhetoric school. Well, we can do you blood and love without the rhetoric, and we can do you blood and rhetoric without the love, and we can do you all three concurrent or consecutive. But we can't give you love and rhetoric without the blood. Blood is compulsory. They're all blood, you see." ― Tom Stoppard, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead

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    Quote Originally Posted by BaumanKing View Post
    Because by the end of the main campaign in Midnight, the Silver Covenant is disbanded and all helves have returned to Silvermoon. By allowing players to make high elven house only in the Horde neighborhood, Blizzard makes it clear that true helves can only be played in the Horde. Meanwhile, the Alliance has velves, who may look like helves but have been biologically altered by the void, hence their purple blood and echoing voices. They'll probably get houses similar to the Voidspire.
    This is only your headcanon that you keep repeating again and again.

    The Alliance is allowed to use blood elf architecture inside their house, so that means that the blood elves are Alliance ? wow

    High elves and void elves are allowed to go back to Silvermoon, and they're both Alliance races.

    Silvermoon is just turning neutral at this point while slightly favoring the Horde.

    Welcome to Horde Dalaran.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pyrophax View Post
    To me it’s not a disbandment but absorption of Sunreavers by Silver Covenant. Look at their tabard and gear
    the silver convent whole thing was not wanting to share a city with the horde and blood elfs and the grudge they held for being exiled even after that exile was lifted.

    By rejoining silvermoon there both giving up the grudge and there main reason for existing as they share the city with the horde, there whole concept is gone while the sun reavers ideal of working together with other mages and elfs is doing better then ever.

    The silver convent are the thematic losers here.
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