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    That doesnt answer my question. I ask why fel infused or dead people can choose healthy, normal skin, but void infused person cant. Not that it would solve everything, but it would help to pretend, that you arent blood elven taitor, but high elf, who was part of the alliance all along.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andoras View Post
    That doesnt answer my question. I ask why fel infused or dead people can choose healthy, normal skin, but void infused person cant. Not that it would solve everything, but it would help to pretend, that you arent blood elven taitor, but high elf, who was part of the alliance all along.
    Because the Blood Elves aren’t Fel infused. They’re tainted. The Void Elves are full on warped by the Void.

    The Fel infused Blood Elves aren’t playable. They’re with the Legion.

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    I like Void elves, but i think Ion and blizzard are being dense.

    It is obvious there is a high demand for this race. They don't have to be a copy of blood elves, there are compromises that can be done, but it is outright stupid to deny something that is obviously popular and in high demand.
    Also, blood elves are far from being part of the horde's identity. Especially when high elves were on the alliance on previous games.
    The horde's identity is given from Orcs, Trolls and Tauren. The other races are tag alongs.
    Just give the people what they want and stop being douchebags. Even not being one of them it is unsightly to watch the game director denying such highly popular requests from his fan base. Must be good working on a big game and having room to be arrogant like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldielocks View Post
    Because the Blood Elves aren’t Fel infused. They’re tainted. The Void Elves are full on warped by the Void.

    The Fel infused Blood Elves aren’t playable. They’re with the Legion.
    if you read my previous post, i was talking about demon hunters, who can choose healthy skin, no horns, but also torn skin with fel spots, fins and horns, while still being a demon hunter, just with different levels of fel exposure

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andoras View Post
    That doesnt answer my question. I ask why fel infused or dead people can choose healthy, normal skin, but void infused person cant. Not that it would solve everything, but it would help to pretend, that you arent blood elven taitor, but high elf, who was part of the alliance all along.
    Because that is supposed to be your mark, that you dont care about lore, just want to play a pretty elf on the alliance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andoras View Post
    That doesnt answer my question. I ask why fel infused or dead people can choose healthy, normal skin, but void infused person cant. Not that it would solve everything, but it would help to pretend, that you arent blood elven taitor, but high elf, who was part of the alliance all along.
    The obvious answer is to keep the factions distinct. Void Elves can't look like High Elves because High Elves aren't significantly different from Blood Elves (that much is by definition of a Blood Elf). The reason High Elf fans are unsatisfied with Void Elves is the same reason it was possible to add them: because they are significantly different from Blood Elves.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nemmar View Post
    They don't have to be a copy of blood elves, there are compromises that can be done, but it is outright stupid to deny something that is obviously popular and in high demand.
    If those compromises come at the cost of either the visual consistency of the game or the visual and thematic distinctions between the factions, it's just not worth it.

    Also, blood elves are far from being part of the horde's identity. Especially when high elves were on the alliance on previous games.
    The horde's identity is given from Orcs, Trolls and Tauren. The other races are tag alongs.
    That's just false. The game is much more complex than it was back then, and denying the reality of the present isn't going to make for a compelling argument.

    Just give the people what they want and stop being douchebags. Even not being one of them it is unsightly to watch the game director denying such highly popular requests from his fan base. Must be good working on a big game and having room to be arrogant like that.
    They have their own vision and direction for the game. It's never a good thing when the fans get too much creative control over a product, and it is Blizzard's responsibility to determine where that line is. They're not being douchebags, they're literally just doing their jobs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Verdugo View Post
    Because that is supposed to be your mark, that you dont care about lore, just want to play a pretty elf on the alliance.
    Hurr durr if you want to play non dead character, you shouldnt pick death knight... rotted face and blueish skin color is your mark, you are dead, duh.
    Hurr durr if you want to be pretty elf, you shouldnt play fel infused half demon, the fel skin and horns are your mark...

    Oh wait, they can look normal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andoras View Post
    Hurr durr if you want to play non dead character, you shouldnt pick death knight... rotted face and blueish skin color is your mark, you are dead, duh.
    Hurr durr if you want to be pretty elf, you shouldnt play fel infused half demon, the fel skin and horns are your mark...

    Oh wait, they can look normal.
    DK state of "decay" totaly depends on when he was risen. If it's fresh corpse - he can look alive, if not - then not.
    VE state only means that they were all infused, and while they can have some knowledge, they didn't get teaching from Locus walker to resist transformation. And after they were changed it's too late to back in original form in near future. maybe in few years some of they would be able to do so (and don't bring alleria - she is named character, who was teached by Walker for who know how long and done right steps in getting "void power", while VE was literaly injected with void instantly.

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    i mean you see this 4 BE/"HE" "students" next to Locus walker. Maybe they will be next generation who like Alleria can transform on will. But not in near future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andoras View Post
    That doesnt answer my question. I ask why fel infused or dead people can choose healthy, normal skin, but void infused person cant. Not that it would solve everything, but it would help to pretend, that you arent blood elven taitor, but high elf, who was part of the alliance all along.
    Um... Because you're still comparing classes with races? That's just like asking: why do Draenei have tails, but a Dwarven hunter doesn't?
    It's nonsense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zorish View Post

    i mean you see this 4 BE/"HE" "students" next to Locus walker. Maybe they will be next generation who like Alleria can transform on will. But not in near future.
    Alleria is like Nathanos, someone with a unique look that will not be replicated because a unique process was utilised to get them there.

    For other Void Elves to have the toggle option Alleria has, they would need to eat a Dark Naaru...BEFORE they got turned into a Void Elf.

    Alleria can do it because she is Alleria, and as a major lore character was given special consideration. Same with Nathanos.

    Void Elves with normal skins seem to have been ruled out by Ion at the same time he said if you want a Fair skinned elf the Horde is waiting for you. The same logic ruling out High Elves applies, as would their desire to keep Void Elves thematically their own thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by suilea View Post
    Um... Because you're still comparing classes with races? That's just like asking: why do Draenei have tails, but a Dwarven hunter doesn't?
    Wat..
    You surely saw a lot of people being confused why void elves are race, not a class. That is because they have this void gimmick, just like demon hunters have this fel gimmick. They are just infused with different magic sources.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obelisk Kai View Post
    Alleria is like Nathanos, someone with a unique look that will not be replicated because a unique process was utilised to get them there.
    i know that's why i am telling "maybe". They still can pull something in the future if they want without much stretch, but not in neares few years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andoras View Post
    Wat..
    You surely saw a lot of people being confused why void elves are race, not a class. That is because they have this void gimmick, just like demon hunters have this fel gimmick. They are just infused with different magic sources.
    demon hunters again get personal teacher who is most powerfull DH in the world, VE didn't get it. Everything they know they got from experiments, and book of traitor. Lack of knowledge get this results

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zorish View Post
    https://imgur.com/a/uXxisfD another pile of gems

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    Last image. They are discussing how Blizzard favours the Horde because in the shrines (MoP) the Horde has an innkeeper on the 2nd floor and Alliance do not. Thus making it unfair. Hoo boy.

    I'm surprised these guys haven't started their own private server where the only option of race would be high elves... x_x

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andoras View Post
    Wat..
    You surely saw a lot of people being confused why void elves are race, not a class. That is because they have this void gimmick, just like demon hunters have this fel gimmick. They are just infused with different magic sources.
    The whole point of a Demon Hunter is struggling with the demon inside them. When they keep it chained, they only manifest the horns (most of them have horns) and wings, which are substantial physical differences. When they let loose they go the whole hog, turning into elven demons before our eyes.

    Then they chain the beast again.

    Your point falls apart because you are attempting to do a one to one comparison between fel and void corruption under different circumstances and different intensities. It's like comparing an avocado to a cabbage because both are green, just as both fel and void are corrupting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zorish View Post
    demon hunters again get personal teacher who is most powerfull DH in the world, VE didn't get it. Everything they know they got from experiments, and book of traitor. Lack of knowledge get this results
    That could be an explanation, but still it is just from your head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zorish View Post
    i know that's why i am telling "maybe". They still can pull something in the future if they want without much stretch, but not in neares few years.
    Maybe but it's a massive long shot. The lore is against it and even Blizzard probably don't want to do it due to the way it would undermine the Void Elf theme and given what Ion said last week.

    I'm afraid it's just more false hope. You know, like secretly hoping this is a gigantic con and that they are working on High Elves as we speak or that Ion alone is blocking High Elves and that as soon as he gets fired they'll be a thing...or that if someone who was pro High Elf could talk to someone who was anti High Elf for two minutes in real life they'd completely convert them to the cause.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obelisk Kai View Post
    The whole point of a Demon Hunter is struggling with the demon inside them. When they keep it chained, they only manifest the horns (most of them have horns) and wings, which are substantial physical differences. When they let loose they go the whole hog, turning into elven demons before our eyes.

    Then they chain the beast again.

    Your point falls apart because you are attempting to do a one to one comparison between fel and void corruption under different circumstances and different intensities. It's like comparing an avocado to a cabbage because both are green, just as both fel and void are corrupting.
    Cool, my void elf is strongly resistant to void whispers, that he maintained his normal skin color, cool how it writes itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andoras View Post
    Cool, my void elf is strongly resistant to void whispers, that he maintained his normal skin color, cool how it writes itself.
    If even Deathwing couldn't resist the whispers of an old god, then no offense, but I doubt your Void Elf could resist the whispers of the void (which is related to old gods). x_x

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    So... anti high elf people want to close this thread...
    But its them who post the most here!

    I have a feeling they all would immediately roll alliance high elves the moment they were released

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    Quote Originally Posted by RangerDaz View Post
    So... anti high elf people want to close this thread...
    But its them who post the most here!

    I have a feeling they all would immediately roll alliance high elves the moment they were released
    I don't want it closed.

    I want it open so all high elf threads ends up here instead of having 10 different high elf threads going on at the same time.

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