Official High Elf Discussion Megathread

[Aldo Hawk]

Yeah why like obelisk i now see him as someone who just cannot get it so will try to ignore(i refuse to use the ignore feature on the site abd rarely look at names/icons thus why i sometimes still reply)

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Because they never learned to overcome the addiction and instead are consumed by it. Big difference even irl.

Yea, i too think using ignore is just dumb and placing yourself in an echo chamber.

[Sorrior]

Expect some dodgy answer, like the whole blizzard regrets giving pandaren to both sides..., while it was actually personal opinion of ghostcrawler..

Thus why mistake was in quotation marks. I see that argument too often

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"prettier nigh elves"

omegaLUL

no wait, are you seriuos? come on dude the nightborne we get are even the worse version of the actually nightborne



so we can play dolls, like rly, is this a real conversation

and here we are, talking about what race is prettier, personal opinion vs personal opinion.. how will it end? You think high elves would be prettier than blood elves? I think nightborne look better and less derpy , than their parent race.

And even though i play alliance, i had to create nightborne and level him to 110, while i have 0 night elven characters

[Syegfryed]

and here we are, talking about what race is prettier, personal opinion vs personal opinion.. how will it end? You think high elves would be prettier than blood elves? I think nightborne look better and less derpy than their parent race.

and you are assuming the version i talk will be more ugly and a downgrade, i just say they would be skinny and pale

but this is a concept you can't grasp because all you want is a prettier and better BE, because otherwise you think it will be bad

[Shinkishi]

Yeeah pandaren reallly blow that alart..and "mistake" or not it is bullshit reasoning.

I really feel like pro he people focus on lore and story

While anti are more focused on the looks and body

It's more that either side is going to provide the one side of things that they believe and just outright ignore the other. Even if you acknowledge the issues that could crop up, that will be ignored so that whoever is arguing can pretend that you are as laser focused as they are until it boils down to just that. That's internet arguing for you.

[Sorrior]

So, a flavor of Night elves and a flavor of Thalassians are not doing nothing to the faction wall, and you call me bullshit, and even you do not take in consideration the changes HE must take to be playable because you don't even care, you just don't want them.

And Pandaren, while they don't liked them, they are there.

And then, what in the 2º quote you made to me is just an opinion and not a fact? point me so i can see through my blindness. And please, this is just you saying that i think my opinion is more valuable, don't make me laught please.

The game released in 2005 without many of the original races, wow got tweaked a lot from then and from their first expansion HE got added in the horde as the BE, who's lore got explained in WIII, but in a side note alliance HE were getting added expansion throught expansion, not in a great role overall, but being there and collaborating with the alliance and as time passed on we saw them in more places and being more (despite being just a bit) differentiated from BE and important by themselves, as like providing the alliance a stronghold in Dalaran, helping in isle of thunder, obeying Jaina's commands to kill every BE in Dalaran, and even going alongside Night Elves as their own army to free suramar, and then there's some HE in the alliance datamined in B4A playing roles, i don't know, but that seems as a valuable race to be playable.

They get more screentime then any other bar maybe humans..and alot of that is killing other humans lol.

Dwarves? Far less(actuallly do EARTHEN get nire then dwarves wt times because damn if so)

Worgen? Outside genn or duskwood yeeah rarely seen

Draenei? Only if demons or draenor pop up.

Gnomes? Gods when did we last really see gnomes be active? Wrath?

Night elves? Almost never bar certain cases(in which case usually neitral as druids)

HE though almost evey expansion has a decent HE presence.

[Aldo Hawk]

wait what? *looking on Lor'themar Theron *previous titles* Ranger lord of Silvermoon... Looking on his right Halduron Brightwing "Ranger General of Silvermoon"... imposters? Is is illusion? what are they hiding?

They are just wondering, not giving any fact on why HE should be done or whatever, please try again.

[Zorish]

Never sadly. Why i was saying outside of thst i see very little ranger left..also think i said before it really does need more love

sorry updated last post when found what i was looked

plus

https://imgur.com/a/FpJQ1Jc last time when we saw this forces face to face if would say that "High elves" had more mages (at least with this 2 squads right in front the door). And LTT called for Rangers. Now Silvermoon consist 3 big parts of their military forces (i would say): Liadrin Blood Knights, Halduron Farstriders, Rommath Magisters.

[Sorrior]

It's more that either side is going to provide the one side of things that they believe and just outright ignore the other. Even if you acknowledge the issues that could crop up, that will be ignored so that whoever is arguing can pretend that you are as laser focused as they are until it boils down to just that. That's internet arguing for you.

Yeeah hate that about the internet arguing as you put it..oddly trying to be balanced or offer concessions really seems to make people think they are winning . The internet can be weird lol

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and you are assuming the version i talk will be more ugly and a downgrade, i just say they would be skinny and pale

but this is a concept you can't grasp because all you want is a BE prettier and better BE, because you think it will be bad

No, i want high elf, with high elven story, what he did after destruction of sunwell, how he struggled, where he lived until today. But you cant grasp that HE fans want to play high elves for their story, not because they are pretty, magnificent, unearthly,divine

[Sorrior]

sorry updated last post when found what i was looked

Yeah i get in lore that is what they say but not much of what we see.

And you are right anout silver covenant didn't swap from talking about highvale before(who i do feel could give us a different enough group to be a sub race and not step on be toes)

[Aldo Hawk]

and you are assuming the version i talk will be more ugly and a downgrade, i just say they would be skinny and pale

but this is a concept you can't grasp because all you want is a prettier and better BE, because otherwise you think it will be bad

Yeah, play now the 'but i think this the other way around' card. Changing things when and how you need them is easy because you are not using anything factual, just something figurated as invented looks who no one has any picture to even look on, and even having a picture is not enought because that still means figurated guesses and not facts.

[Sorrior]

No, i want high elf, with high elven story, what he did after destruction of sunwell, how he struggled, where he lived until today. But you cant grasp that HE fans want to play high elves for their story, not because they are pretty, magnificent, unearthly,divine

This

Also i am thinking bigger a bit more wild in style. See the celtic designs up on the first post.

And last i checked bit bigger and more rugged/muscular is not prettier. More manly yes but nit prettier.

And magic wise highvale would be a downgrade. But a physical upgrade a tradeoff if you will

[united]

Yeeah pandaren reallly blow that alart..and "mistake" or not it is bullshit reasoning.

I really feel like pro he people focus on lore and story

While anti are more focused on the looks and body

Pandas are irrelevant and are one of the least played races. They also started out neutral while blood elves have been horde for 11 years.

Please stop with the false equivalencies.

[Goldielocks]

Yeah you can still point out the inconsistency, it's one of the first ones Taliesin says.

Okay, but that inconsistency doesn't matter. He says that there aren't enough HE, yet many races come from low populations. That logic used to work, but it doesn't really anymore, especially with VE. The man probably tried to rationalize his response, and failed at it.

It doesn't make a difference though. The team doesn't want to do it.

[Traveler Voltin]

"lets change what makes high elves, high elves." -the zealot high elf fans

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No, i want high elf, with high elven story, what he did after destruction of sunwell, how he struggled, where he lived until today. But you cant grasp that HE fans want to play high elves for their story, not because they are pretty, magnificent, unearthly,divine

Um the fact that most high elf fans would be happy if void elves got light skin and blonde hair I can’t blame syegfryed for not “grasping” it.

[Syegfryed]

No, i want high elf, with high elven story, what he did after destruction of sunwell, how he struggled, where he lived until today.

and it could be the highvale elves, just more skinny and pale, whats wrong with that? if lore is what matter, why you are bitching about who is more pretty?

this would make a decent storytelling and a decent reason inlore to make then look different

But you cant grasp that HE fans want to play high elves for their story, not because they are pretty, magnificent, unearthly,divine

this entire topic is He fans proving that lore don't matter, and want because they are pretty magnificent, unerathyl and divine, you did this in this very page

if its about lore, say your Void elf was a High elf before, who come from the silver covenant or whatever place, like we will do with maghar orcs

but come on, tell me again its not the same thing because they are purple

[Sorrior]

"lets change what makes high elves, high elves." -the zealot high elf fans

Or perhaps we see high elves differently then you do?

A very common theme amongst all variants seems to be surviving with less magic. The degree to which that is the case varies and i would say willpower and an unwillingness to give in fits EVERY version so far pretty well.

[Syegfryed]

Yeah, play now the 'but i think this the other way around' card.

prove otherwise, why you think an elf skinny and more pale will be worse and ugly?

Changing things when and how you need them is easy because you are not using anything factual, just something figurated as invented looks who no one has any picture to even look on, and even having a picture is not enought because that still means figurated guesses and not facts.

its not something who i invented pal, elves without the source of magic will be weak, so they being skinny make sense

they being bulky don't, simple