Official High Elf Discussion Megathread

[Aldo Hawk]

its just to make the opossite pal, you guys want something better, with no lore reasons, a blood/high elf model improved, enhanced

i gave you another option, who make sense with lore.

people want elves who don't use neither consume magic, they cut of of all magic sources, like people said, they overcome the magic addict, thats what would happened to then, skinny, more pale, and white eyes, not bulky, prettier, tanned and healthy, is asinine to assume they would be like that

people want the same treatment of nightborne and night elves, but just want prettier and better versions, not versions who make sense ( even when this don't mean they will be downgraded or ugly)

Improved? more like changed to look different enought from blood elves, but what you suggest is something like a reassorted drug addict that didn't handled it very well, that's lame and tricky, not wanting what you 'suggests' (you don't even care) is not wanting something that represents high elves as we see them.

[Deleted]

and it could be the highvale elves, just more skinny and pale, whats wrong with that? if lore is what matter, why you are bitching about who is more pretty?

this would make a decent storytelling and a decent reason inlore to make then look different


this entire topic is He fans proving that lore don't matter, and want because they are pretty magnificent, unerathyl and divine, you did this in this very page

if its about lore, say your Void elf was a High elf before, who come from the silver covenant or whatever place, like we will do with maghar orcs

but come on, tell me again its not the same thing because they are purple

No, the entire topic is about differentiating them so crybabies like you dont have feeling, that we are stealing their toy..

[FlubberPuddy]

Okay, but that inconsistency doesn't matter. He says that there aren't enough HE, yet many races come from low populations. That logic used to work, but it doesn't really anymore, especially with VE. The man probably tried to rationalize his response, and failed at it.

It doesn't make a difference though. The team doesn't want to do it.

Of course it doesn't matter, he points this out as well. I don't get what you and @Gentlepenguin are going in circles for? LOL

As I told him, one can point out the inconsistencies and still do nothing about it. Even if it doesn't matter, it doesn't mean the inconsistencies don't exist though. That's all that is being said. Is that really hard to understand? Or maybe you guys just like getting the last word in?

Regardless I think I have clarified it enough, feel free to re-read though if it hasn't sunk in yet.

[Zorish]

This

Also i am thinking bigger a bit more wild in style. See the celtic designs up on the first post.

And last i checked bit bigger and more rugged/muscular is not prettier. More manly yes but nit prettier.

And magic wise highvale would be a downgrade. But a physical upgrade a tradeoff if you will

sorry but everything we saw about "magical oriented elves" before goes opposed them being muscular if they stop with magic stuff. Mana for elves if we use logic is like nutriens or vitamins for us. You can live if you have little supply of it, but if you stop it completly... Things probably could go wrong (as we see in Nightfallen). So maybe you can endure if your income not as big as before, but this will still affect your body mass growth. So as i said before - this highvale elves would probably will be skinnier than normal elves (NOT TO THE EXTREME! NOT!), but still elves.

[Goldielocks]

So, a flavor of Night elves and a flavor of Thalassians are not doing nothing to the faction wall, and you call me bullshit, and even you do not take in consideration the changes HE must take to be playable because you don't even care, you just don't want them.

Of course they do nothing to the faction wall. The aesthetic is what matters here. Why did they add VE and yet refuse to add HE? What's the difference between them? Why are people asking for Blizzard to make fairer customizaion options for VE?

This isn't hard.

And Pandaren, while they don't liked them, they are there.

What is Blizzard going to do? Remove them? Obviously not. All they can do now is not make the same mistake again. And before you get pissy, yes, the "mistake" is in their eyes.

And then, what in the 2º quote you made to me is just an opinion and not a fact? point me so i can see through my blindness. And please, this is just you saying that i think my opinion is more valuable, don't make me laught please.

That's exactly what I'm doing. The dev team says they don't want to do it, and you're going on about how they're objectively wrong, using the word "facts."

That's not how opinions work.

i don't know, but that seems as a valuable race to be playable.

Which is your opinion.

[Sorrior]

Um the fact that most high elf fans would be happy if void elves got light skin and blonde hair I can’t blame syegfryed for not “grasping” it.

I think most see that as a compromise where they will change their hearthstone maybe to one in a HE area and pretend they never touched void and are a pure he representing the faction they want to be from(so say a silver covenant character using tabard and armor with a silver covenant hearthstone)

Or a highvale dressing more rugged and going hunter or rogue maube war and have their hs be around their.

Because then they can even if not really be obe act like it and carry on the lore in their head

As js you cannot really do that bar modding games files for the VE.

The VE are if anything the opposite of high elves on mamy peoples eyes

[Goldielocks]

Or maybe you guys just like getting the last word in?

That is beyond hilarious coming from inside a booming HE thread after being told no for the nth time.

[Sorrior]

sorry but everything we saw about "magical oriented elves" before goes opposed them being muscular if they stop with magic stuff. Mana for elves if we use logic is like nutriens or vitamins for us. You can live if you have little supply of it, but if you stop it completly... Things probably could go wrong (as we see in Nightfallen). So maybe you can endure if your income not as big as before, but this will still affect your body mass growth. So as i said before - this highvale elves would probably will be skinnier than normal elves (NOT TO THE EXTREME! NOT!), but still elves.

Those jave ALWAYS been mid withdrawal however and not always see highvale elves

[Zorish]

Those jave ALWAYS been mid withdrawal however and not always see highvale elves

sorry what again? i didn't get it.

[Shinkishi]

Yeeah hate that about the internet arguing as you put it..oddly trying to be balanced or offer concessions really seems to make people think they are winning . The internet can be weird lol

Yeah, that's how it goes. I don't really understand the people that come in here and say that "it's been decided, it'll never happen, the developer said so" yet they still come to argue about it. Then they act as though the pro-High Elf guys are somehow more obsessed with it when it is literally the High Elf thread they are coming into. I'm not a big fan of High Elves myself and I come to check this thread because I am a masochist for dumb internet arguments, but those guys always stick out the most to me.

[Deleted]

Um the fact that most high elf fans would be happy if void elves got light skin and blonde hair I can’t blame syegfryed for not “grasping” it.

Yeah that would be fine for most and i wouldnt blame them, because that would be almost victory, not for those who want to be paladins. Roleplayers could atleast make their backstories, if they didnt look like walking corpses.

[Syegfryed]

No, the entire topic is about differentiate them so crybabies like you dont have feeling, that we are stealing their toy..

"differentiate slightest as possible so they still look like the elves but better"

yeah sure, He fans calling other people crybabies is the juiciest bit of hypocrisy

Improved? more like changed to look different enought from blood elves

cause different hairstyles and tattoos sure make then different enough

oh no but they can be bulky with no reasons at all, sure, that make sense, even if don't make then "different enough"

but what you suggest is something like a reassorted drug addict that didn't handled it very well, that's lame and tricky, not wanting what you 'suggests' (you don't even care)

this is just you point of view, if an elf have no magic source, and overcome his addiction,he will be skinny and pale thana n elf who regularly have his source of magicc, is like eating

is not wanting something that represents high elves as we see them.

you now what represent high elves as we see then? exactly the same as blood elves

you know what NOT represent high elves as wee seen then? being bulky

[Sorrior]

sorry what again? i didn't get it.

The elves we see in game(withered nightfallen and so on) have never actually tried to quit mana(or rather wean themselves off/find a substitute) instead they always are looking for more still much like a drug addict.

Lorewise high vale elves don't focus on magic ad much if at all and are in game using be models right now(they used to use tweaked ne models in vanilla) they have done it moved beyond the addiction.

Or not seen an elf who never withers because they fed their mana addiction but learned to curtail and require less.

In short we are comparing a full on drug addict who never stops looking and takes whatever they can get to a person who overcame said addiction.

[Traveler Voltin]

if high elves had markings in WC2, why did they suddenly disappear in WC3 and WoW for both high and blood elves?

[Deleted]

"differentiate slightest as possible so they still look like the elves but different"

fixed that for you.. You surely have paranoia, that we want better blood elves.

if high elves had markings in WC2, why did they suddenly disappear in WC3 and WoW for both high and blood elves?

artistic decision.. alleria still have them
also we dont talk about wc3, because kul tirans there werent burly half giants, suramar was sunken ruin etc.

[Sorrior]

Yeah, that's how it goes. I don't really understand the people that come in here and say that "it's been decided, it'll never happen, the developer said so" yet they still come to argue about it. Then they act as though the pro-High Elf guys are somehow more obsessed with it when it is literally the High Elf thread they are coming into. I'm not a big fan of High Elves myself and I come to check this thread because I am a masochist for dumb internet arguments, but those guys always stick out the most to me.

Yeah i have tried to be balanced myself. I just don't understand what the big deal is about even thinkimg up fan ideas(do they hate fantasy or something?)

Or how he would irrelerably destroy the horde.

I just think easier for blizz to give us HE then keep up the bad arguments. Or at least give us a decent reason.

[Traveler Voltin]

fixed that for you.. You surely have paranoia, that we want better blood elves.



artistic decision.. alleria still have them

well alleria is void elf now.
technically void, blood, and high elves should have markings.

[Sorrior]

Yeah that would be fine for most and i wouldnt blame them, because that would be almost victory, not for those who want to be paladins. Roleplayers could atleast make their backstories, if they didnt look like walking corpses.

Yeppers. Void elf? no i am a high elf of the sikver covenant who never succumb to my mana addiction and i have grown stronger for it(in their opinion not saying fact)

As opposed to VE not giving you a way to even rp that outside of either ignoring skin color or going into some seriously messed up shit like kindnapped and forced into being one(in which case i doubt they could fight the void influence very well or would be so messed up bordering on rapey)

Oh coukd be a he who willingly became a ve buut then no longer a he

[FlubberPuddy]

well alleria is void elf now.
technically void, blood, and high elves should have markings.

MMmm but Alleria never became a blood elf? She went straight from High Elf -> Void Elf so technically it's just those 2 that should have em? Ok I'll stop now hahaha

[Deleted]

well alleria is void elf now.
technically void, blood, and high elves should have markings.

she isnt, she is high elven void user, that is why she looks normal and uses void form at her will, just like my worgen shadow priest isnt called void worgen

yeah sure, He fans calling other people crybabies is the juiciest bit of hypocrisy

i live by these words, everyday in my life

its not a insult if it is true