Official High Elf Discussion Megathread

[Daevelian]

What? You sound deranged

So someone lists something, clearly states it as a what if and your reaction is to cuss it out and then call them deranged? Yeeeeeah, i think you're making yourself look bad enough already, no need to add more.

[Solence]

why isnt the thread getting closed at this point?

[Deleted]

I wonder how a lot of horde players would react if Ion claimed Kul'Tirans were the compromise for Ogres? I imagine the anti helf people would change their tunes VERY quickly. "If you want playable Ogres, the Alliance is there waiting for you."

Sure, it's a stretch as the comparison is nowhere near as tight as high elves, but still, use some creativity. Humour the 'what if'.

I doubt more then 1% of horde players would give a shit. Ogre's are a often asked race, but ony lin the - in-crowd. Most players aren't fussed by all this.

As far as that goes the analogy stands, I doubt half the alliance players even know all the fuss people make over helves, let alone care.

P.S. As a hordy I think Kul'tiran and dark irons are awesome and if I ever want to play one I'll happily accept rolling an alliance toon. Even though I think the faction divide is outdated and boring.

[Broken Fox]

Aside from being big Kul Tirans and Ogres share no similarities

Aside from different colored eyes High Elves and Blood Elves share no differences

The comparison is dumb

[Deleted]

why isnt the thread getting closed at this point?

Why would be? because ion repeated the same uneducated arguments from blizzcon, that undermine the very existence of void elves?

Aside from being big Kul Tirans and Ogres share no similarities

Aside from different colored eyes High Elves and Blood Elves share no differences

The comparison is dumb

Aside from green armor, the kul tirans and stormwindians share no differences
, oh wait, they somehow do, something about harsh environment and different food

[Daevelian]

I doubt more then 1% of horde players would give a shit. Ogre's are a often asked race, but ony lin the - in-crowd. Most players aren't fussed by all this.

As far as that goes the analogy stands, I doubt half the alliance players even know all the fuss people make over helves, let alone care.

P.S. As a hordy I think Kul'tiran and dark irons are awesome and if I ever want to play one I'll happily accept rolling an alliance toon. Even though I think the faction divide is outdated and boring.

Well, we skipped all the middle talk and got right to the end about these always being the small part of the population. Damn, and here i was hoping to have a fun discussion. D:

And yes, Kul'Tirans and Dark Irons are awesome. I plan to try both out, though i can never abandon Bojangles the undead murder orc.

[Varodoc]

If Silver Covenant Elves become playable as an entirely separate Allied Race, then so should Stromic, Lordaeronian and Alteraci Humans. Since, you know, it's the same logic, the Silver Covenant is just an organization.

[Broken Fox]

Why would be? because ion repeated the same uneducated arguments from blizzcon, that undermine the very existence of void elves?



Aside from green armor, the kul tirans and stormwindians share no differences
, oh wait, they somehow do, something about harsh environment and different food

You’re a crazy person

[Strangewayes]

I'm not interested in playing High Elves, but Ion's response seemed like sheer arrogance at the playerbase. He's the Team Lead of WoW and he knows Void Elves and Nightborne are being developed, and puts forth the very reasons they exist as to not put in High Elves.

I honestly would be pretty goddamn miffed at him for seemingly lying to everyone straight faced.

[Deleted]

If Silver Covenant Elves become playable as an entirely separate Allied Race, then so should Stromic, Lordaeronian and Alteraci Humans. Since, you know, it's the same logic, the Silver Covenant is just an organization.

That is pretty much route, the blizzard is going, but they have to retcon looks of different kingdoms, as they did with gilneans and kul tirans.. Just wait and see, how arathi people become muscular barbaric folk and alteraci will be skinny thugs

[Varodoc]

Why would be? because ion repeated the same uneducated arguments from blizzcon, that undermine the very existence of void elves?



Aside from green armor, the kul tirans and stormwindians share no differences
, oh wait, they somehow do, something about harsh environment and different food

Kul Tiran Humans and Stormwindian Humans are in the same faction, the 'identity' and 'population' problems therefore are not present in this case.

[JustaRandomReindeer]

Pretty sure Silver Covenant elves aren't called that.

Americans used to be English. We changed are names. Are we still English? No we've made our own cultural and have "mudded" ourselves with other "races".

It's the same race they only have different eyes. It makes no sense to add an already existing Horde race to the Alliance. What is the point of factions if we do that? And you know if they ever decide to do that people will ask for compensation and here we are having Night Elves or Humans on the Horde and Blood Elves on the Alliance. Do you even realise what mess you are asking for?

[Deleted]

You’re a crazy person

indeed, i actually see how blizz easily retcons look of the whole kingdom, craaaaaaaazyyyyyy

[JustaRandomReindeer]

That is pretty much route, the blizzard is going, but they have to retcon looks of different kingdoms, as they did with gilneans and kul tirans.. Just wait and see, how arathi people become muscular barbaric folk and alteraci will be skinny thugs

It might not sound outrageous now but when they decide to make those humans part of the Horde.. oh boy.

[Deleted]

It might not sound outrageous now but when they decide to make those humans part of the Horde.. oh boy.

So what? if it would make sense lorewise then why not.. if they somehow make syndicate members of the horde, while slightly altering their look why not? I am not that possessive of muh humans

[Obelisk Kai]

I wonder how a lot of horde players would react if Ion claimed Kul'Tirans were the compromise for Ogres? I imagine the anti helf people would change their tunes VERY quickly. "If you want playable Ogres, the Alliance is there waiting for you."

Sure, it's a stretch as the comparison is nowhere near as tight as high elves, but still, use some creativity. Humour the 'what if'.

Kul Tirans can't be a compromise for Ogres because it looks like they are a throwback to the Vrykul to me.

In the hypothetical scenario that actual Ogres were added to the Alliance...then yes, Ogres would be an Alliance race from that point on and any Horde players pining for them would have to get over themselves.

[Sigxy]

So what? if it would make sense lorewise then why not.. if they somehow make syndicate members of the horde, while slightly altering their look why not? I am not that possessive of muh humans

The idea of having Humans and Orcs in the same faction is... I don't even know how to put it. It'd go against the very thought of the two factions as the reason it exists in the first place is because of Humans vs Orcs.

[JustaRandomReindeer]

So what? if it would make sense lorewise then why not.. if they somehow make syndicate members of the horde, while slightly altering their look why not? I am not that possessive of muh humans

Why would we need factions then? If the Horde can play Alliance factions and Alliance can play Horde factions what is the point of factions? Don't you realize that that would ruin factions and the game dynamics as we know them? Maybe you should realize that people here are protesting that stupid idea because it would ruin the uniqueness of races and factions.

[Halefire94]

Unfortunately, I think there is a reason they are being so unreasonably stubborn on high elves.

Though we've made plenty of distinction in the OP, a pretty elf race that is very similar to the biggest horde race on the alliance. It would destroy the Horde's population.

Most Belf players don't have faction loyalty and just want to play the pretty race. If they could the same pretty race and pretty faction, they will. There is no other reason why I see Ion and team being so stubborn

[Deleted]

The idea of having Humans and Orcs in the same faction is... I don't even know how to put it. It'd go against the very thought of the two factions as the reason it exists in the first place is because of Humans vs Orcs.

Alterac kingdom collaborated with orcs. It wouldnt be a big stretch for remnants of alterac to join the horde