Official High Elf Discussion Megathread

[Strangewayes]

and some people forget that wow actually bigger than we see, and this "big enough" numbers of "High elves" can be actually last ones of them existing withing the Aliance. And when people bring chronicles that "dalaran was evacuated", they pull some crazy numbers of "High elves" who live there, when actually they can be like 10-100 elves exiles in Aliance.

And? They bullpooped reasons why Void Elves came out of nowhere and they are able to mass produce them now. But you think the people that make the game are unable to bullpoop a bastion of High Elf culture similar to the Nightborne cut off from the rest of Azeroth?

They can write whatever they want to justify High Elves, but they want to run with this last minute fanfiction race for some insane reason.

[Obelisk Kai]

It's really hard to find stuff from back then since search engines brings the most up to date and relevant results and I can't remember when I read it. I think it was during a Blizzcon Q&A or an AMA somewhere.

Well I've been following wow q and a's and AMA's for a very long time. While I can recall the Pandaren being the first choice of an Alliance race in TBC, I can't remember anything about High Elves being the Alliance choice.

In fact the reason Blood Elves were announced six months before Draenei (and provided me with many a fond memory of posting in 'what is the alliance race' threads? Everyone thought it was going to be Draenei but the broken, ugly ones) was revealed to be that the Alliance race was not ready, and the reason the Alliance race wasn't ready was that Pandaren had been scrapped on the grounds of no connection to Outland (which we learned several years after).

If High Elves had been the Alliance race, then they couldn't have been the Horde race and both races would have been delayed. That did not happen.

Unless you can provide a source stating that High Elves were going to be the Alliance race in TBC, it will have to be regarded as faulty memory on your part.

[Blayze]

Given many Allied Races seem to be a monkey's paw situation, Blizzard will probably 'cave' by adding half-elves instead.

[Gurluas]

Well I've been following wow q and a's and AMA's for a very long time. While I can recall the Pandaren being the first choice of an Alliance race in TBC, I can't remember anything about High Elves being the Alliance choice.

In fact the reason Blood Elves were announced six months before Draenei (and provided me with many a fond memory of posting in 'what is the alliance race' threads? Everyone thought it was going to be Draenei but the broken, ugly ones) was revealed to be that the Alliance race was not ready, and the reason the Alliance race wasn't ready was that Pandaren had been scrapped on the grounds of no connection to Outland (which we learned several years after).

If High Elves had been the Alliance race, then they couldn't have been the Horde race and both races would have been delayed. That did not happen.

Unless you can provide a source stating that High Elves were going to be the Alliance race in TBC, it will have to be regarded as faulty memory on your part.

You misunderstand...In the earliest stages of TBC, the Blood elves were going to be Alliance. I'm talking long before the expansion was announced. This is before they even began work on the expansion ingame but were sorting out the design. Back then there wasn't really a divide between High and Blood elves, and people just called them Blood elves in general.

My whole point with that is that until TBC, Blood elves were an Alliance thing. Sadly as I said, I can't find the source. I just remember it was Ogres for Horde and Blood elves for Alliance, but then they scrapped Ogres and put Blood elves in the Horde, and made Pandaren for Alliance.

In 2006 when TBC was announced they were already Horde.

[Thalassian Bob]

honestly tattoos as customization option must be added to almost every race. because every race (okay maybe not forsaken) have their own war paints/tattoos. This would solve Blood leves rangers look from WC2, Wildhammer look too (they are identical to ironforge!!! even little difference! only tattoos), orcs with their paints (skull mask), trolls, humans, etc. etc.

Yeah, tattoos/markings would be a nice addition for nearly every race.

The only thing I think would give Blizzard pause over this (beyond simply not wanting to dedicate time to it) is that if all races got tattoos and markings as a new option in character creation, it would reduce the uniqueness of Highmountain taurens and Mag'har orcs when compared to their vanilla counterparts because face markings (especially for Highmountain taurens) are one of the few things that differentiate them from the original races.

[Zorish]

And? They bullpooped reasons why Void Elves came out of nowhere and they are able to mass produce them now. But you think the people that make the game are unable to bullpoop a bastion of High Elf culture similar to the Nightborne cut off from the rest of Azeroth?

They can write whatever they want to justify High Elves, but they want to run with this last minute fanfiction race for some insane reason.

you again... comparing... them... to Nightborne. Man you are comparing wine of 1950 year with fresh 2012 wine. One faction got 10k years FOR DEVELOPING different culture (Night elves, cause Nightborne stayed with "Highborne" culture), while others DIDN'T DEVELOPED AT ALL! ("High elves"). Their building are the same (Alleria keep in outlands), their faces are the same (cause fel DIDN'T changed blood elves aside from eyes). you see? THEY NOT DEVELIPED AT ALL!

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also

Thanks a lot for your replies and your time. If things start to get too rough, just remember that this discord alone is a proof that others have the same taste/goal and that the most vocal and toxic players doesn't reflect the whole community

why i can't stop laughing

[Sigxy]

You misunderstand...In the earliest stages of TBC, the Blood elves were going to be Alliance. I'm talking long before the expansion was announced. This is before they even began work on the expansion ingame but were sorting out the design. Back then there wasn't really a divide between High and Blood elves, and people just called them Blood elves in general.

My whole point with that is that until TBC, Blood elves were an Alliance thing. Sadly as I said, I can't find the source. I just remember it was Ogres for Horde and Blood elves for Alliance, but then they scrapped Ogres and put Blood elves in the Horde, and made Pandaren for Alliance.

In 2006 when TBC was announced they were already Horde.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wBVgL6E9mY

Gee, if Allianced did get Blood Elves, I bet they still would beg for High Elves... x_x I'm pretty sure they never considered the Blood Elves joining Alliance back then due to how the story went in Warcraft 3 where the humans tried to execute them all. The only reason they considered rejoining the Alliance in MoP was because of how bad the Horde (Garrosh's Horde, mind you) treated them.

[Zorish]

Yeah, tattoos/markings would be a nice addition for nearly every race.

The only thing I think would give Blizzard pause over this (beyond simply not wanting to dedicate time to it) is that if all races got tattoos and markings as a new option in character creation, it would reduce the uniqueness of Highmountain taurens and Mag'har orcs when compared to their vanilla counterparts because face markings (especially for Highmountain taurens) are one of the few things that differentiate them from the original races.

h5 man. Really miss some of the war paints for races. Even if most of them are hidden under the armor, but they are still cool thing.

[netherflame]

No means no, stop forcing things that people have already said no to.

[Gurluas]

Gee, if Allianced did get Blood Elves, I bet they still would beg for High Elves... x_x I'm pretty sure they never considered the Blood Elves joining Alliance back then due to how the story went in Warcraft 3 where the humans tried to execute them all. The only reason they considered rejoining the Alliance in MoP was because of how bad the Horde (Garrosh's Horde, mind you) treated them.

They fit much better in the Alliance than the Horde. In fact, back then, the Horde players didn't want em, and the Alliance players were mad because they wanted them in the alliance, and the few Blood elves in the game in Vanilla were Alliance...and why would the Alliance want High elves when they have Blood elves in the Alliance? Don't be silly.


https://wow.gamepedia.com/Blood_elf_controversy

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also why i can't stop laughing

I dont know, because you are toxic?

Gee, if Allianced did get Blood Elves, I bet they still would beg for High Elves... x_x I'

just like some of you guys beg for blue eyes even though you already have blood elves?

[Sigxy]

They fit much better in the Alliance than the Horde. In fact, back then, the Horde players didn't want em, and the Alliance players were mad because they wanted them in the alliance, and the few Blood elves in the game in Vanilla were Alliance...and why would the Alliance want High elves when they have Blood elves in the Alliance? Don't be silly.


https://wow.gamepedia.com/Blood_elf_controversy

Yeah... imagine how that lovely A-H ratio would be. Humans is the most played race and Blood elves, 2nd most played. >_>

Edit: Just to prove my point. According to this, Night Elves are 3rd most played. Again, imagine that A-H ratio. o_o
https://www.statista.com/statistics/...cters-by-race/

[Thalassian Bob]

You misunderstand...In the earliest stages of TBC, the Blood elves were going to be Alliance. I'm talking long before the expansion was announced. This is before they even began work on the expansion ingame but were sorting out the design. Back then there wasn't really a divide between High and Blood elves, and people just called them Blood elves in general.

My whole point with that is that until TBC, Blood elves were an Alliance thing. Sadly as I said, I can't find the source. I just remember it was Ogres for Horde and Blood elves for Alliance, but then they scrapped Ogres and put Blood elves in the Horde, and made Pandaren for Alliance.

In 2006 when TBC was announced they were already Horde.

Well, the not so subtly named "Adon", who stands in the Eastern Plaguelands near the Thalassian border, is actually a high elf, rather than a blood elf. I always figured this was because, originally, the playable faction of "blood elves" were going to be Alliance-aligned, but somewhere during planning they decided to switch things up and put Silvermoon on the side of the Horde.

[Zorish]

I dont know, because you are toxic?

i am interested. who you were quoting?

if me well - then i will be toxic as soda, while everything i saw in elf discord and sometimes there on forum will be toxic like Royal cobra venom.

[corebit]

I dont know, because you are toxic?

Did you just quote yourself saying you're toxic? Well admitting it yourself is the first step towards honesty.

[Obelisk Kai]

They fit much better in the Alliance than the Horde. In fact, back then, the Horde players didn't want em, and the Alliance players were mad because they wanted them in the alliance, and the few Blood elves in the game in Vanilla were Alliance...and why would the Alliance want High elves when they have Blood elves in the Alliance? Don't be silly.


https://wow.gamepedia.com/Blood_elf_controversy

Actually that's another misconception and one given the appearance of truth via repetition.

The Horde was divided over Blood Elves. Some were annoyed at the way they could potentially impact the theme of the faction, whereas others were intrigued by them offering a differing experience from the other Horde races and many were just pleased the Horde was getting Paladins.

In fact, I can't recall much of a High Elf debate following Blizzcon 05 at all.

You know what the number one topic on the forums for months and months after Blizzcon was?

'What is the new Alliance race'?

That was glorious. So much speculation, so much creativity. And nobody, NOBODY guessed it would be angelic Eredar.

[Zorish]

Honestly - sometimes i catch myself on thing, that this "High elves" woke up, because majority of them were upset after Nightborne gone horde. But then i scratch my head. Because if they play Aliance they clearly saw every phrase said by Tyrande (and used logic to see how Night elves "love" their spellcaster kin), then they won't be asking this questions, so...

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i am interested. who you were quoting?

if me well - then i will be toxic as soda, while everything i saw in elf discord and sometimes there on forum will be toxic like Royal cobra venom.

Did you just quote yourself saying you're toxic? Well admitting it yourself is the first step towards honesty.

no, somehow i messed quotation, fixed

'What is the new Alliance race'?

That was glorious. So much speculation, so much creativity. And nobody, NOBODY guessed it would be angelic Eredar.

And Metzen admited his mistake, while Ion is acting smug.

[Broken Fox]

The Pulp Fiction dance would have been a lot cooler than Napoleon Dynamite and random thot dance

[Syegfryed]

All right, another case for High Elves.

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''Blood Elves are basically High Elves, [...].'' Are they?

No, they are not. Blood Elves have been exposed to Fel energy

just because they have been exposed to fel energy don't mean they become another race, stop this asinine headcanon and accept canon lore, that blood elves are high elves, this is stated both ingame, in warcraft encyclopedia, in chronciles, blue posts, and 2 times with ion, stop claiming up bullshit.

Even high elves who left qule'thalas late get exposed to fel energy and their eyes could be green

also, the fel reaction is already fading away

and have been siphoning mana from living creatures. High Elves haven't,

bullshit, don't matter from what or wherethey take mana, mana is mana, this don't make thena different race, high elves siphon magic trough magical objects

and don't (they mostly use moon wells to satiate their addiction).

there is no lore source about that

It's like giving the Horde Fel orcs when they wanted Mag'har.

you guys will win the championship of false analogies