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    Well, if Blood Elves are in fact High Elves now, then Horde players, and Blood Elf fans are the ones, who lose the most - one of Blizzard's better ideas becomes blurred and abandoned. No more care for them to be unique
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ehrenpanzer View Post
    ...this is like arguing that 50 Germans moving to Finland no longer makes them German.
    Well duh ? Obviously they are high germans then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrashi View Post
    Actually devs said that blood elves are high elves so yeah, you are wrong here.
    All blood elves are high elves.
    Not all high elves are blood elves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaira View Post
    AGAIN Ignorance you are WRONG Blood Elves "were" High Elves they cast that aside and their are High Elves who never went down the Blood elf route but you know this because you are just argumentitve and stupid.
    So explain to us why YOU are the one in the right here. Why should we listen to you, a random nobody, instead of a Dev of this game who clearly said that high elves are blood elves?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geckoo View Post
    All blood elves are high elves.
    Not all high elves are blood elves.
    Actually they are. The split came after they renamed, and veggie elves just renamed themselves back to high elves. Still doesn't change the fact that they are one and same race. That is already playable on the horde.

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    And in that case, You have no slightest feeling, that thing sold to You 12 years ago, actually lost all its original properties?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaira View Post
    What makes you any special, The Dev Ion just doesn't know his game as well as you think he does he's only human with alot on but if High Elves didnt exist we wouldn't have them in the Alliance now would we.

    Your name fits quite well to the quote I was going to use.
    High elves exist as a tiny fraction who joined the Alliance, so what? Horde players aren't owed the human model because alterac helped them, or the gnome model because some joined the Forsaken.

    You're not owed high elves, more importantly, you're not owed a Horde race, no matter how much you want it.
    Quote Originally Posted by WoWKnight65 View Post
    That's same excuse from you and so many others on this website and your right some of threads do bully high elf fans to a point where they might end up losing their minds to a point of a mass shooting.
    Holy shit lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaira View Post
    What makes you any special, The Dev Ion just doesn't know his game as well as you think he does he's only human with alot on but if High Elves didnt exist we wouldn't have them in the Alliance now would we.

    Your name fits quite well to the quote I was going to use.
    Me, special? Absolutely nothing - I'm merely pointing out the fact that Ion is a dev and, honestly, he probably knows a lot more than any of us here. Right now, the word of a Dev is a lot more legit than random people here. And he said that high elves are blood elves.

    And tossing insults towards names now, eh? Typical from your crowd. ^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaira View Post
    AGAIN Ignorance you are WRONG Blood Elves "were" High Elves they cast that aside and their are High Elves who never went down the Blood elf route but you know this because you are just argumentitve and stupid.
    Ignorance can be felt to be a by-product of a lack of engagement, of choosing to retreat to a safe space where your own point of view is unchallenged.

    And you have form on this.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaira View Post
    The bolded Highlighted part shows where you are ignorant and clearly here to just troll because if you re-look at the picture HElves arnt paladins in the concept why people are bothering with your kind is now to the point where it is rediculous because you have also shown your pettyness in other threads in reguards to the Horde getting better shit in bfa so far and you seem to be loving the trolling aspect. I will now put you on ignore as you've shown you're definately a waste of time and space.


    Quote Originally Posted by Kaira View Post
    You're just a hater as well everyone knows your stance and a few of the others on this forum you are pointless talking to so kindly stop quoting me because you're not worth the effort no more.
    https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...0#post49213350

    I have this guy on ignore as he is highly salty to everyone about everything but he pretty much summed up what I knew about some of the Anti High Elfers all along /selfishness /spite.


    https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...5#post49204235

    Now your just trolling welcome to ignore.


    https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...8#post49187988

    Yes I asked him directly on twitter, I just took a peek at Kai's post to see if he made any sense but after reading his response yeah im glad i put him on ignore.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaira View Post
    Sorry? Who're you /ignored.
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    Both of you do us all a favour and DON'T read these threads you are both vile toxic hateful people and you are now ignored so don't bother responding and get over yourselves.
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    Sorry what, Yeah not even going to bother with you anymore /ignored.
    https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...9#post48961809

    Ignores Mehrunes he has a passion of hatred towards people even mentioning High Elves same goes for a few other posters on this forum they always spout the same bullshit.

    I have said it before, you don't wish to debate. You wish to speak. And anyone who contradicts you, you simply mute admidst great fanfare and playing the victim card.

    I do wonder what YOU get out of coming here. It clearly aggravates you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaira View Post
    It was no insult, but goes to show were you guys think of us. You are now no longer worth my time either I can't be bothered anymore.
    Sure sound like it. Almost like a minor threat. "Your name fits quite well to the quote I was going to use."

    But alright, we're done talking then, you and I. But if I do spot you say something I disagree with, I hope you understand that since these are public forums, I am allowed to speak against it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Obelisk Kai View Post
    Ignorance can be felt to be a by-product of a lack of engagement, of choosing to retreat to a safe space where your own point of view is unchallenged.

    And you have form on this.



    https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...0#post49213350

    I have this guy on ignore as he is highly salty to everyone about everything but he pretty much summed up what I knew about some of the Anti High Elfers all along /selfishness /spite.


    https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...5#post49204235

    Now your just trolling welcome to ignore.


    https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...8#post49187988

    Yes I asked him directly on twitter, I just took a peek at Kai's post to see if he made any sense but after reading his response yeah im glad i put him on ignore.

    https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...9#post48961809

    Ignores Mehrunes he has a passion of hatred towards people even mentioning High Elves same goes for a few other posters on this forum they always spout the same bullshit.

    I have said it before, you don't wish to debate. You wish to speak. And anyone who contradicts you, you simply mute admidst great fanfare and playing the victim card.

    I do wonder what YOU get out of coming here. It clearly aggravates you.
    Hoo boy, wish we could all agree that people are different from one another and that people got opinions and people can nicely agree to disagree. :<
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    Quote Originally Posted by Friendlyimmolation View Post
    or the gnome model because some joined the Forsaken.
    And maybe that's the problem. Maybe giving Horde Lepper Gnomes and Dark Irons would in fact work better, than current way. However Horde already got Night Elf model - in the form of Nightborne, and some High Elves fans already stated, that it is not the model, what is most important for them.

    So maybe the problem is bringing all the matter to the question of model itself, when in fact it is rather about aesthetics and leading theme of the race?

    You can use Thalasian elf model to create something, that never will be received as High Elves - as in case of thew Void ones, and You can easily use other model to create something, that would be clearly recognizable as one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrashi View Post
    Actually they are. The split came after they renamed, and veggie elves just renamed themselves back to high elves. Still doesn't change the fact that they are one and same race. That is already playable on the horde.
    The problem with the phrase 'blood elves are high elves' as an argument is that is quite easy to just look around in-game and find how there are thalassian elves with blue eyes, working with the alliance, that have never been considered to be blood elves.

    There is a disctintion between both elf groups, it has always existed, even back in vanilla... i don't understand why suddenly people intentionally forget about it. So i'll repeat it again:
    All blood elves are high elves.
    Not all high elves are blood elves.

    It has nothing to with the fact that they are indeed the same race, it has to do with the fact that they've been written to consider temselves two different things, something that anyone can notice just by playing the game btw.
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    I'm pretty indifferent on the whole high elf thing. I couldn't care less what race other people want to be. But if the excuse is not wanting to blur faction lines why do we have pandaren?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geckoo View Post
    The problem with the phrase 'blood elves are high elves' as an argument is that is quite easy to just look around in-game and find how there are thalassian elves with blue eyes, working with the alliance, that have never been considered to be blood elves.

    There is a disctintion between both elf groups, it has always existed, even back in vanilla... i don't understand why suddenly people intentionally forget about it. So i'll repeat it again:
    All blood elves are high elves.
    Not all high elves are blood elves.

    It has nothing to with the fact that they are indeed the same race, it has to do with the fact that they've been written to consider temselves two different things, something that anyone can notice just by playing the game btw.
    They are still same race. Diffrence betwen blood elf and high elf is same as betwen right winger and left winger from same country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vertigo X View Post
    I'm pretty indifferent on the whole high elf thing. I couldn't care less what race other people want to be. But if the excuse is not wanting to blur faction lines why do we have pandaren?
    pandaren were designed from the get go to be for both sides, however we later found out through ghostcrawler that Blizzard didn't like the way they blurred faction lines.
    Quote Originally Posted by WoWKnight65 View Post
    That's same excuse from you and so many others on this website and your right some of threads do bully high elf fans to a point where they might end up losing their minds to a point of a mass shooting.
    Holy shit lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vertigo X View Post
    I'm pretty indifferent on the whole high elf thing. I couldn't care less what race other people want to be. But if the excuse is not wanting to blur faction lines why do we have pandaren?
    Pandaren were mistake, and blizzard wasn't happy with how neutral race turned out to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaira View Post
    The bolded Highlighted part shows where you are ignorant and clearly here to just troll because if you re-look at the picture HElves arnt paladins in the concept why people are bothering with your kind is now to the point where it is rediculous because you have also shown your pettyness in other threads in reguards to the Horde getting better shit in bfa so far and you seem to be loving the trolling aspect. I will now put you on ignore as you've shown you're definately a waste of time and space.
    Don't have another tantrum/breakdown because I didn't read the proposed class selection for a non-playable race. Pump your brakes there, Kaira. I'd hate for you to burst a vein. I was providing an example of how the racials could, in theory, be quite OP.

    The Horde is getting better treatment going into BFA, at least in my opinion. Sorry you're upset about that. With your previously displayed inability to control your emotions on an internet forum, you ignoring me is about as inconsequential as it can get.

    Another one bites the dust.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vertigo X View Post
    I'm pretty indifferent on the whole high elf thing. I couldn't care less what race other people want to be. But if the excuse is not wanting to blur faction lines why do we have pandaren?
    The Pandaren were an experiment to see if neutral races could work. Everything was designed with neutrality in mind from their story to their theme.

    In the end, it looks like Blizzard felt that while Pandaren as a race are fine, the concept of neutrality is a failure.

    Pandaren should not be as the exception that means other neutral races can follow, but as the mistake they no longer wish to repeat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaira View Post
    Fixed that for yer, and as I said it's not Blood Elves we want its High Elves that if you take 5 mins will find walking around stormwind and teaching portals to mages aswell as other places... ignorance and self rightousness must be bliss.
    Blood Elves are High Elves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Friendlyimmolation View Post
    pandaren were designed from the get go to be for both sides, however we later found out through ghostcrawler that Blizzard didn't like the way they blurred faction lines.
    Quote Originally Posted by Arrashi View Post
    Pandaren were mistake, and blizzard wasn't happy with how neutral race turned out to be.
    Quote Originally Posted by Obelisk Kai View Post
    The Pandaren were an experiment to see if neutral races could work. Everything was designed with neutrality in mind from their story to their theme.

    In the end, it looks like Blizzard felt that while Pandaren as a race are fine, the concept of neutrality is a failure.

    Pandaren should not be as the exception that means other neutral races can follow, but as the mistake they no longer wish to repeat.
    Okay but so was flying but now we've opened up pandora's box and we don't get to pretend it didn't happen.

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