Official High Elf Discussion Megathread

[Darththeo]

You're advocating for a Horde race to be playable on the Alliance too, it would be false to say that the Horde doesn't get a say.

I am a Horde Player who mains a Blood Elf who most alts are Blood Elves ... I honestly don't care if the Alliance gets High Elves or not.
I feel that the Alliance players deserve a better answer then they were given and that Ion shouldn't be condescending to paying customers.

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WOw looks really cool

[Nuggsy]

You know what would be super funny to me? If Blizzard give Blood Elves blue eyes. Omg I would enjoy the shit show on this thread. XD

[Thalassian Bob]

You know what would be super funny to me? If Blizzard give Blood Elves blue eyes. Omg I would enjoy the shit show on this thread. XD

I've always thought that that would be hilarious. And, after the introduction of golden eyed face options, it doesn't seem too far-fetched to think that Blizz might just add a couple of blue eyed face options to the blood elves, thinking that would appease high elf fans, rather than infuriate them further.

[Nuggsy]

I've always thought that that would be hilarious. And, after the introduction of golden eyed face options, it doesn't seem too far-fetched to think that Blizz might just add a couple of blue eyed face options to the blood elves, thinking that would appease high elf fans, rather than infuriate them further.

I mean. If I'm going to have to see this thread pop up every day for the rest of forever, I'm going to at least have fun with it.

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I took a little break from this thread, but I'm back.

I am a Horde Player who mains a Blood Elf who most alts are Blood Elves ... I honestly don't care if the Alliance gets High Elves or not.
I feel that the Alliance players deserve a better answer then they were given and that Ion shouldn't be condescending to paying customers.

Thank You.

/support even though I'm horde

Thank You.

I wouldn't mind if Blizzard released an allied race called "Wild elves", based on the remaining High elves scattered around Azeroth and Outland.

Another nice one
You seem to follow similar way of my unfinished idea of Forest Elves, proposed in one of more fan-fiction themed thread -

I'd like to propose alternative outcome, if You don't mind. Kind on embracing cultural differences on elves too, and going more by way of political conflict.

Great Elven Civil War, and Rise of The Shadow Empire

Monarch: The Mad Empress
Capital Backbone Keep (former Galakrond's Rest)
Races: Void Elves (9%) - ruling class, and only full right citizens.
Nerubians (3%)
Faceless Ones (1%)
Undead (62%) - as slaves
Demon (2%) - as slaves
Other (23%) - as slaves
Regions:
Draginblight
Parts of Holwing Fjord
Azjol'Nerub
New locations: Pale City - former Nerubian temple complex, in the Old Kingdom
Government Type: Aristocratic Monarchy

History and Description: During many years of devastating elven civil war on the rule over their ancestral lands, Void Elves traveled to icebound lands of the Northrend, in search of ancient Nerubian knowledge from the long fallen Black Empire, and claiming much of them for their base of operations in Azeroth. In their vendetta against Quel'Thalas, they followed the path of the shadow magic further than any other race in Azeroth previous them, the more resistance they met, the more adjusted to achieve goals by force they become. And in this way, the Void found it's way into the Azeroth.

A warlike, and secretive society from the begging, dark elves have no counting numbers for the warfare, neither the labor force necessary to establish independence, after abandoning their human allies, no longer willing to support endless vendetta. In those times, they slowly started to enslave encountered races, and practice necromancy, to secure their inevitable victory in the endless conflict. They strengthen themselves in hatred for their southern loyalist brethren, whom they call usurpers, questioning right to the throne of the Teron Dynasty, and rejecting authority of Quel'Thalas. They cultivate resentment for their former human and elven allies, who chose peace, and call them traitors. In time, they forgotten much of the motifs once lead upon starting the war, as well as their exile, and foundation of new kingdom, and becomes driven only by desire for vengeance.

Once defeated, and forced to plot their vengeance deep in frozen saronite towers, now they again become increasing threat to inhabitants of Azeroth on both sea, and the sky, as merciless corsairs, and slave hunters.

Government: Under the sole and undisputed rule of the Mad Empress, endless web of intrigues and rivalry took place. The richest families never loose a chance to strengthen their position on the royal court. The most influential of them fight over seats in Empires highest state assembly - The Whispering Council.

Forest Elves exodus and founding of the Hidden Cities

Capital Vereesan Harbor - named after dead Elven Civil war hero ( )
Races: High Elves (72%)
Half-Elves (23%)
Humans (8%)
Wildhammer Dwarves (3%)
Draenei (1%)
Other (1%)
Regions:
Arathi Highlands, Hinterlands and mountains in between

New locations: Vereesan Harbor, build by once exiled High Elves, and strengthened by population of refugees from Great Elven Civil War.
Government Type: Federation of City States

After death of one of their previous leader during Graet Elven Civil war, new leadership of the last remaining High Elves decided withdraw from the conflict, no longer supported by human kings. They joined exiles, who traveled south of Quel'Thalas, and settled in few outpost, every of which give in time birth to the new city state - some located under the mountains, some hidden deep in the woods.

Remaining elves become isolated from their Quel'Thalas brethren, accusing them of using forbidden schools of magic, as well as rejected call of the Elven Empress, to continue the war, ant thus take on themselves her wrath. In time their distrust grown, they slowly started to explore new ways of living, rediscovering shamanic, and even druidic practices, learned from their allies - mostly Wildhammer Dwarves, and Draenei.

Government: Sorry, no current idea yet...

That's basically all. Fell free to comment. I'l be pleased to read what you think.

humiliating

We might be thinking by very different routes, cause for my, humilating, if anything, is rather to stay passive and take as good coin every crap, and offal, that someone actually graciously throws to You. To refuse, and hold the stand, is rather point of self respect.

There is nothing mature in subordination people. If you don't like something - speak loudly.

there is no issue.

Do there are still factions of High Elves in game?
Do we get explanation in story, for them all to unexpectedly vanish, from all places they occupy?
Do all players recognize High Elves in Blood Elves, and Void Elves?
Do Void Elves get well received, as "answer" and "compromise"?

If the answers are no, then there is still an issue. Blizzard failed in canceling it yet. And unlike You, I'm skeptical about decision of removing, or exterminating them, cause as I said - elven conflict sells quite well, and catches attention. Blizzard probably has no so much interest in closing it, as You think.

And some answers are here no for sure - as many players do not recognize High Elves in Blood Elves, and Void Elves, no matter how many times Ion comes to them announce a decree, that 2 +2 = 7. At some point, they would have to evaluate reception of their "answer".

Although I can't see some of the proposals people have thought up:

1) All joining the VE - High Elves separated from BE due to using chaotic fel magics, they aren't going to join another group of their brethren doing essentially the same thing.

2) They end up joining back up with BE - The narrative has continually spinned High Elves and Blood Elves as hating each other. Doesn't matter that there's one or 2 characters on each side who want them to be back together again, the majority of each group despises the other.

The "cleanest" albeit boring solution would be killing them off, that for sure gives resolution and falls in line much better than the other 2 proposals because those are completely out of character to happen to High Elves if it did.

This is something that really should be highlighted - if Blizzard was to follow those of Your suggestions, dear High Elves opponents, than it would be for them continuation of destroying own concepts and story. I doubt they were willing knowingly. However they also may they may not see it.

Very interesting. It's brought up again about uniting Silvermoon back into the Alliance. Also interesting that Umbric says the Alliance is where "our people belong".

I think it's interesting there's still this dynamic going on of whether the Thalassian Elves are on the side they "should be," sets up an interesting storyline.

Yeah, this is making elven civil war more likely every new hint. I'm even starting to wonder, if they are not going to shut down the Sunwell again at some point.

Its an endless discussion with no real outcome that will please the high elf fans.

Who the High Elves are "now" isn't something that will survive, but what's left of them could create something new.

And here in fact, I see High Elves fans as quite flexible in fact -

- Willing to refer to old, abandoned concepts, culturally already similar to Wildhammers,
- Willing to change appearance to some point, and model as well,
- Willing to accept argument of more frequent crossbreeding, as lore ground for changed apperance, in quite similar way it seem to have be done with Kul Tirans, maybe just not to such point of extend,

Conservative in the majority just in case of holding classical elven themes, motifs, and classical elven aesthetics etc.

Blood Elves are the big remaining story for High Elves. They deserve more story, customization and more.

I really can't understand this attitude... My elf is best elf, so all otherwise minded elves should die. And because I'm emotionally bound with my elf, all other elven fans shall get nothing and suffer, if they are not willing to submit.

How about equal share of motifs? Equal share of customization options?

Ranger tattoos for High Elves - as strongly connected to their core concept from WC2.
Runic tattoos for Blood Elves - as strongly connected to their core concept from TBC.

And antlers for Night Elves - to make them feel savage again.

[Enkrypt]

We might be thinking by very different routes, cause for my, humilating, if anything, is rather to stay passive and take as good coin every crap, and offal, that someone actually graciously throws to You. To refuse, and hold the stand, is rather point of self respect.

There is nothing mature in subordination people. If you don't like something - speak loudly.

I really have no idea what you're trying to say, honestly.

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Yeah, I believe You don't. I have already figured it out.

[Darththeo]

Yeah, I believe You don't. I have already figured it out.

Don't bother with him, he doesn't care for honest debate.

[rogueMatthias]

Part of me thinks that we're not going to get High Elfs because by the end of BfA we'll get..... Blood Elves.

Alliance fund and arm "rebels" (which also include the VE and HE) in a civil war to take out Bob and put their own chosen Alliance-friendly leaders in charge of Silvermoon. (Maybe some relative of Kael'thas with a claim to the throne)

They succeed in ousting him but he escapes with large amounts of loyalists and soldiers. A lof of Elves are happy to be away from the Horde and welcome the Alliance. Some hated that they joined the Horde in the first place, and others have turned away from the Horde after Sylvasnas recent actions. Ali can create new Elves now, happy to join the Alliance.

The current BE elves are now the exiled elves, stuck in Orgimmar, rightfully pissed off and demanding Sylvanas uses the might of the Horde to help them reclaim Silvermoon, as it's rightful leaders.

[Friendlyimmolation]

Part of me thinks that we're not going to get High Elfs because by the end of BfA we'll get..... Blood Elves.

Alliance fund and arm "rebels" (which also include the VE and HE) in a civil war to take out Bob and put their own chosen Alliance-friendly leaders in charge of Silvermoon. (Maybe some relative of Kael'thas with a claim to the throne)

They succeed in ousting him but he escapes with large amounts of loyalists and soldiers. A lof of Elves are happy to be away from the Horde and welcome the Alliance. Some hated that they joined the Horde in the first place, and others have turned away from the Horde after Sylvasnas recent actions. Ali can create new Elves now, happy to join the Alliance.

The current BE elves are now the exiled elves, stuck in Orgimmar, rightfully pissed off and demanding Sylvanas uses the might of the Horde to help them reclaim Silvermoon, as it's rightful leaders.

That makes even less sense than asking for high elves. Faction lines aren't going to be blurred like that, nor is blizzard going to go "hey Horde players, not only do you have to share this race, but you lose your capitol because the Alliance never stopped complaining."

Unless every Alliance aligned blood elf became wretched in this "Scenario" thus giving them a different look, it wouldn't happen.

[Sigxy]

I still don't get why people insist on having not two, but THREE "kinds of Elves" of Quel'Thalas. Not to mention that it would mean two Quel'Thalas elf kinds are now on the wrong side. x_x

At least Highmountain Tauren weren't Tauren of Thunder Bluff. Mag'har orcs aren't Orcs of Orgrimmar. Lightforged Draenei are not Draenei of Outland / Azuremyst Isle.

Now we already have 2 playable elves that came from Quel'Thalas. A 3rd isn't needed.

[Sigxy]

High Elves for sure would garner them a LOT of money.

I am not sure I can agree with it. Why would HIGH ELVES make a lot of money? Honestly, it seems like most people who want them playable already play WoW so it they wouldn't gain THAT much out of it.

I'm not sure I can think of -ANY- race that they, ALONE, make a LOT of money. Would they make some kind of income? Sure, a little bit. But it's more about the expansion and the content you can play around with.

[Mitshukiwow]

I think i will like to explore the world in a High Elf's skin

[Enkrypt]

Yeah, I believe You don't. I have already figured it out.

No, I seriously don't understand your English. I understand it may not be your first language, but it isn't coherent.

It makes no sense. You can choose to be pompous if you want, but illiteracy is nothing to be clever about.

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I think i will like to explore the world in a High Elf's skin

This is kind of creepy.

[lainer69]

sorry to say that but i'm happy they won't add them to the game, there are too much elves anyway and high elves are just 0.% of elves that haven't turned to bloodelves, in addition some of them are turning to void elves, soo high elves just keep falling down as popularity and void elves are raising, void elves are more interesting anyway.

[Enkrypt]

Don't bother with him, he doesn't care for honest debate.

Aww, someone sounds salty they were destroyed with each topic they presented. Those wounds will heal, High Elfer, just give it time.

[MechaCThun]

Here is my obligatory "get my opinion in before it's lost to the flaming/arguing" of this thread:

People who want playable high elves for the Alliance only want to play a white skinned elf character with non-green eye customization(ie: blood elf model) on the Alliance side. It has nothing to do with lore reasoning for these people.

The utter refusal to play Horde as an elf proves it. They want the exact same kind of elf that the Horde gets, but waving the blue and gold flag instead. So you get your blood elf model race on the Alliance finally... only the skin is not white and the hair isn't your typical brown, blonde and/or dark.

At the end of the day it's all ABOUT THE SKIN COLOR!

[Darththeo]

Aww, someone sounds salty they were destroyed with each topic they presented. Those wounds will heal, High Elfer, just give it time.

Funny, in one line, you proved you never read anything I said and yet think you "destroyed" each topic I presented. You clearly didn't pay attention.

[Mitshukiwow]

This is kind of creepy.

it's only my way of speaking, lol