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    Yeah, blood elf magic addiction was akin to real world substance addictions. You feel the craving for it, you can't concentrate on other tasks, you get edgy. The wretched condition is like a heavy crack addiction in which you do nothing but focus on getting your fix. It's not a natural degradation due to lack of magic.

    Those elves who died were the ones who already were very vulnerable before the loss of the Sunwell. The sudden abstinence pushed them over the brink and they couldn't cope with it.
    Yup it's why it's an addiction and not a dependency, and why High elves could meditate to fight it off. If a Nightfallen meditated it'd do nothing, they'd still end up becoming a Withered. The Nightborne had a true dependency on the Nightwell, their body needs it to function or they will completely degrade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gurluas View Post
    Yup it's why it's an addiction and not a dependency, and why High elves could meditate to fight it off. If a Nightfallen meditated it'd do nothing, they'd still end up becoming a Withered. The Nightborne had a true dependency on the Nightwell, their body needs it to function or they will completely degrade.
    This makes a lot of sense, I didn't realize in that way you guys are mentioning. Still....I wouldn't place my bets on shaking things up on that level, one thing I've noticed about Blizzard is they are very, incredibly slow to get things to be at an interesting point where they should be. This is doubly so for the narrative department. Look how much hype there was around Sargeras and then his showing and resolution (for now) was so quick!

    I would love a soft reboot though! Feels like one is needed if BfA isn't the reboot we need

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    Well, according to the latest lore that Blizzard is enforcing, there's absolutely nothing wrong with having a "Voidwell". The light can be bad and the void can be good. If a Naaru can turn to the void, then so can a Sunwell reignited by the heart of a Naaru, one which was in a void state anyway.

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    Its a shame that VE look so much better in art than in game.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaira View Post

    Props to Keihndeth.
    I've listened to it.

    The idea that it is just 'roleplayer's looking for this is a nonsense , as proven by the multiple posts in the unofficial void elf threads on the official forums, where people who would later pop up in the High Elf threads spent months agitating for 'normal' skin tones on Void Elves prior to their introduction. Too many people focused on a desire to make the void elves look identical to High/Blood Elves (just like Alleria they would say, ignoring the lore based rationale that she is very different) for anyone to treat the claim that it is a roleplaying desire only with any real seriousness.

    Just because someone takes the time to put together a video on youtube and adds their commentary doesn't immediately elevate that commentary to something substantial. There has to be something to it. There is none of that in this video that hasn't been dealt with before. It's just another opinionated spiel that recycles nearly every single point that has been debated in this thread and more often than not, refuted.

    Much of it is an attack on Ion Hazzikostas, effectively accusing him of being unsuited for his job and being biased towards the Horde. He accuses him of being poor on the lore. Firstly, Ion wouldn't be making these decisions by himself. I am sure there are plenty of team members with Alliance mains. Secondly, even IF Ion's grasp of the lore is wooly, he has staff members who are experts in it. Trying to pin all the responsibility for the 'No' to High Elves on the Game Director is just to hope that if he goes it becomes possible again. That's lazy scapegoating and false hope.


    The 'No' is almost certainly the result of internal collective deliberations over what an Allied race could be. High Elves are virtually identical to Blood Elves, and a variant was introduced with it's own theme as a compromise. Even after Ion does move on, you'll almost certainly get the same response from his successor.

    With the revelation that the cadence of allied races being added into the game is slated to fall drastically after BFA ends, the chances of them wasting that slot on something practically indistinguishable from an already available option has diminished even further.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khaza-R View Post
    Its a shame that VE look so much better in art than in game.
    Lol this, anyone else find it funny that they had to add to pinker undertones to this Void Elf? and look how much better it already appears

    I think otherwise it would look too close to looking like an Undead Elf just blue-y, as they currently do now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obelisk Kai View Post
    With the revelation that the cadence of allied races being added into the game is slated to fall drastically after BFA ends, the chances of them wasting that slot on something practically indistinguishable from an already available option has diminished even further.
    Probably, or maybe they realized that everyone's focus on "any new race shown = POTENTIAL ALLIED RACE?!" (which is Blizzard's own fault btw) needs to be stifled so the community can not drown out other subjects. Because literally that's what has happened for months on end.

    Anyways, High Elves are probably in the same boat as Wildhammer Dwarves, Forest Trolls, and any other races that are near identical in appearance (since this seems to be Blizzard's focus as well): Not going to happen for when they want really "drastically different race appearances".

    Although this kind of leads me to wonder if there will even be Undead, Worgen, Goblin, and Gnome 2.0s. The recent comment about Allied Races makes it sound as if we aren't going to get any more during BFA past Zandalari/Kul'Tiran. But that digresses this thread. Just food for thought to any passerbys

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obelisk Kai View Post
    I've listened to it.

    The idea that it is just 'roleplayer's looking for this is a nonsense , as proven by the multiple posts in the unofficial void elf threads on the official forums, where people who would later pop up in the High Elf threads spent months agitating for 'normal' skin tones on Void Elves prior to their introduction. Too many people focused on a desire to make the void elves look identical to High/Blood Elves (just like Alleria they would say, ignoring the lore based rationale that she is very different) for anyone to treat the claim that it is a roleplaying desire only with any real seriousness.

    Just because someone takes the time to put together a video on youtube and adds their commentary doesn't immediately elevate that commentary to something substantial. There has to be something to it. There is none of that in this video that hasn't been dealt with before. It's just another opinionated spiel that recycles nearly every single point that has been debated in this thread and more often than not, refuted.

    Much of it is an attack on Ion Hazzikostas, effectively accusing him of being unsuited for his job and being biased towards the Horde. He accuses him of being poor on the lore. Firstly, Ion wouldn't be making these decisions by himself. I am sure there are plenty of team members with Alliance mains. Secondly, even IF Ion's grasp of the lore is wooly, he has staff members who are experts in it. Trying to pin all the responsibility for the 'No' to High Elves on the Game Director is just to hope that if he goes it becomes possible again. That's lazy scapegoating and false hope.


    The 'No' is almost certainly the result of internal collective deliberations over what an Allied race could be. High Elves are virtually identical to Blood Elves, and a variant was introduced with it's own theme as a compromise. Even after Ion does move on, you'll almost certainly get the same response from his successor.

    With the revelation that the cadence of allied races being added into the game is slated to fall drastically after BFA ends, the chances of them wasting that slot on something practically indistinguishable from an already available option has diminished even further.
    I have never seen a more fervent anti-High Elf advocate anywhere than Obelisk Kai. Literally every point that pro-High Elf people have shot his way he shoots down no matter the merit. I've never seen him yield a single point. I can't imagine being so miserable as to devote so much time to deny something from someone else that has absolutely no effect on you whatsoever. There are so many positive things you could do with your time that would be productive. Maybe learn to make YouTube videos explaining why I'm wrong and Ion is right, perhaps? Maybe advocate for something you do want like a specific Allied Race? Having such a charged focus of negativity is not good for anyones health.

    While I understand there is no case I (or anyone else) can make that could convince Obelisk Kai, the case I make in the video is that all of the reasons Ion has given are either very weak or contradict something else Blizzard has already done. There are reasons to not add High Elves, but Ion has yet to use any of those reasons in his explanations. It is not an attack whatsoever on Ion Hazzikostas. Ion is the best game director WoW has ever had. My point is that Ion is a hardcore elitist player who invented theorycrafting as we know it with Elitist Jerks. Lore and story isn't his thing, just like we wouldn't ask class balance from Chris Robinson, the art director. Ion is also an admitted Horde enthusiast and one look at his main character on the armory shows he has zero Alliance achievements. Go look up Gurgthock for those interested. There are better people to answer this question than Ion, like Christie Golden for example. I really think we need a Lore Q&A, to be honest.

    Ion said "Anything is possible in the future, but no plans in the near term to add High Elves," he never said "no" as Obelisk Kai would imply. Also, other Devs have directly supported High Elves, as Obelisk Kai would mislead you to think they are all on the same page. Here it is: https://twitter.com/candacerthomas/s...11840547962880

    I'm not unique in my view of the High Elf debate. Taliesin and Evitel, who were also not High Elf fans came to the same conclusion I did. They have become supporters of the movement like myself. If you don't find my argument compelling, I strongly suggest you take a look at theirs.
    https://youtu.be/C2Sr-sadSk4

    For the record, the Allied Race I want is Forest Trolls and thanks for bumping up my YouTube metrics Obelisk Kai.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keihndeth View Post
    I have never seen a more fervent anti-High Elf advocate anywhere than Obelisk Kai. Literally every point that pro-High Elf people have shot his way he shoots down no matter the merit. I've never seen him yield a single point. I can't imagine being so miserable as to devote so much time to deny something from someone else that has absolutely no effect on you whatsoever. There are so many positive things you could do with your time that would be productive. Maybe learn to make YouTube videos explaining why I'm wrong and Ion is right, perhaps? Maybe advocate for something you do want like a specific Allied Race? Having such a charged focus of negativity is not good for anyones health.

    While I understand there is no case I (or anyone else) can make that could convince Obelisk Kai, the case I make in the video is that all of the reasons Ion has given are either very weak or contradict something else Blizzard has already done. There are reasons to not add High Elves, but Ion has yet to use any of those reasons in his explanations. It is not an attack whatsoever on Ion Hazzikostas. Ion is the best game director WoW has ever had. My point is that Ion is a hardcore elitist player who invented theorycrafting as we know it with Elitist Jerks. Lore and story isn't his thing, just like we wouldn't ask class balance from Chris Robinson, the art director. Ion is also an admitted Horde enthusiast and one look at his main character on the armory shows he has zero Alliance achievements. Go look up Gurgthock for those interested. There are better people to answer this question than Ion, like Christie Golden for example. I really think we need a Lore Q&A, to be honest.

    Ion said "Anything is possible in the future, but no plans in the near term to add High Elves," he never said "no" as Obelisk Kai would imply. Also, other Devs have directly supported High Elves, as Obelisk Kai would mislead you to think they are all on the same page. Here it is: https://twitter.com/candacerthomas/s...11840547962880

    I'm not unique in my view of the High Elf debate. Taliesin and Evitel, who were also not High Elf fans came to the same conclusion I did. They have become supporters of the movement like myself. If you don't find my argument compelling, I strongly suggest you take a look at theirs.
    https://youtu.be/C2Sr-sadSk4

    For the record, the Allied Race I want is Forest Trolls and thanks for bumping up my YouTube metrics Obelisk Kai.
    For the record, you begin your response with an ad hominem attack against me for having a contrary opinion to your own. This is common to the pro High Elf side, who only have an attempt at an argument bereft of any supporting evidence to support their wish. And as for bumping up your youtube metrics? So? It's a childish way to conclude your diatribe. I can offer a childish riposte, your videos need it. Think of it as an act of charity for the pitiable if you must.

    Now, as for me yielding on a single point? I have yet to meet a point that can be supported. Offer me evidence and I will change my views, but you haven't done that. Your entire video is just the reheated pro High Elf argument in one package. Each and every single point you raised has been countered and refuted on multiple occasions.

    Even the premise is wrong. The issue isn't that 'High Elves are not Blood Elves', the strawman you constructed to base your argument upon. No, what Ion said was 'Blood Elves are pretty much High Elves'. That a small faction of thalassian elves identical in every way to the Blood Elves except their politics is aligned to the Alliance is irrelevant, as Blood Elves are High Elves, High Elves are playable.

    And as for Ion's final words, the only words the pro High Elf side is willing to give credence it seems, if you want to cling to that false hope then that is your business. False hope includes the link to candace thomas's comment. Here's a more pertinent quote from her twitter 'Personal twitter account; my opinions are my own.'

    The game director has, in an official context, pretty much ruled them out on the grounds that they are already playable. And in the most recent Q and A he added another comment that very much has an impact on this debate.

    "Is the Allied race system going to be a BFA system, or is there a good likelihood of it being expanded on in future expansions?" was the question.

    This one is important as the pro High Elf side have seen the Allied race as the answer to their prayers, the mechanism by which they can finally get playable High Elves.

    Ion's response was that more will definitely come in the future, but that they are the centrepiece of battle for azeroth. But he also says he doesn't want allied races to become a checklist item, something expected, that they will only be added when they make sense. He expressed worry about the Alliance and Horde ending up with thirty races between them. The only conclusion to draw is that Allied races are going to end up a lot rarer in the future and that when they are added it is going to be an event for the game, something special. Given the well flagged official opposition from Blizzard on the topic of playable High Elves, with the exception of Candace Thomas's personal opinion of course, I reckon the chances of them wasting an Allied race slot on a duplicate of something they clearly think is already available is pretty much nil.

    That is what the future holds, where anything can happen apparently but which I am willing to bet will not include playable Alliance High Elves. Fewer opportunities for new races, and less chances for Blizzard who clearly have little to no interest in doing this to change their minds..
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    Damn... this is still going on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by In Ogres We Trust View Post
    Damn... this is still going on?
    I think this thread will exist to discuss High Elves, as they continue to exist within World of Warcraft and were not given a definite, "No". Doesn't really matter where anyone stands on that matter, High Elves weren't given a definite "No". Something at least thankfully supported by the mods here.

    I reckon it can be like other threads that have existed for months or years as more new pieces for this race get datamined (which they have in terms of additional High Elves continuing to be propped here and there in BFA).

    Plus it's just a cool thread where people can share their High Elf artwork

    Hence why it's still here.

    @Keihndeth no point stoking Obelisk's fire. He sees Blood Elves literally as High Elves, as in the Blood part doesn't exist, that they are the Quel'dorei not the Sin'dorei etc etc all that jazz. I wouldn't bother. Truer lore aficionados such as Red Shirt Guy and even WoWhead, along with T/E understand and refute what Ion said. Candace, Jeremy Feasel, and even Ion (evidence here: https://twitter.com/MrBravi/status/9...705609217?s=19 Ion liked this tweet) have stated how they understand the huge want for High Elves.

    Was it ever possible so soon after Void Elves? Hell no! yet speculation was going overboard and in general Allied Race speculation was going overboard as well.

    The back and forth arguing over whether it will or won't happen should stop though, it's fruitless and everything that's been said has been said. Great video but this thread doesn't constantly need any back and forths.

    Let's all just wait and see what happens in the future, or people should provide some good High Elf content (like your video and other artworks etc). The back and forths are just drab at this point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlubberPuddy View Post
    I think this thread will exist to discuss High Elves, as they continue to exist within World of Warcraft and were not given a definite, "No". Doesn't really matter where anyone stands on that matter, High Elves weren't given a definite "No". Something at least thankfully supported by the mods here.

    I reckon it can be like other threads that have existed for months or years as more new pieces for this race get datamined (which they have in terms of additional High Elves continuing to be propped here and there in BFA).

    Plus it's just a cool thread where people can share their High Elf artwork

    Hence why it's still here.

    @Keihndeth no point stoking Obelisk's fire. He sees Blood Elves literally as High Elves, as in the Blood part doesn't exist, that they are the Quel'dorei not the Sin'dorei etc etc all that jazz. I wouldn't bother. Truer lore aficionados such as Red Shirt Guy and even WoWhead, along with T/E understand and refute what Ion said. Candace, Jeremy Feasel, and even Ion (evidence here: https://twitter.com/MrBravi/status/9...705609217?s=19 Ion liked this tweet) have stated how they understand the huge want for High Elves.

    Was it ever possible so soon after Void Elves? Hell no! yet speculation was going overboard and in general Allied Race speculation was going overboard as well.

    The back and forth arguing over whether it will or won't happen should stop though, it's fruitless and everything that's been said has been said. Great video but this thread doesn't constantly need any back and forths.

    Let's all just wait and see what happens in the future, or people should provide some good High Elf content (like your video and other artworks etc). The back and forths are just drab at this point.
    My intent was not to "stoke Obelisk Kai's fire". It was merely to respond to his attack on my video and my person, which I have a right to defend. While I fully recognize there is absolutely no rational discussion with him on this topic, what he was saying about me and my work deserved an intelligent retort, which I have given.

    The High Elf discussion is not going to go away until they add them to the game or the game ends. That is just kind of the reality of the situation and I think people need to except that. Ultimately, Blizzard is at fault for this whole fiasco. From TBC to BfA they continue to add High Elf NPCs and storyline in places they could add Humans, Worgen, Gnomes, etc., yet they do not. They could have folded the Silver Covenant and High Elves into the Void Elf camp, yet again they did not. If they killed them off and stopped adding NPCs every expansion, the desire to have them as playable wouldn't be nearly as strong. I don't think any rational person would expect High Elves on the heel of Void Elves, certainly. So why do they keep adding High Elves? I think more likely than not they are inevitable as an Allied Race, love or hate the idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keihndeth View Post
    My intent was not to "stoke Obelisk Kai's fire". It was merely to respond to his attack on my video and my person, which I have a right to defend. While I fully recognize there is absolutely no rational discussion with him on this topic, what he was saying about me and my work deserved an intelligent retort, which I have given.

    The High Elf discussion is not going to go away until they add them to the game or the game ends. That is just kind of the reality of the situation and I think people need to except that. Ultimately, Blizzard is at fault for this whole fiasco. From TBC to BfA they continue to add High Elf NPCs and storyline in places they could add Humans, Worgen, Gnomes, etc., yet they do not. They could have folded the Silver Covenant and High Elves into the Void Elf camp, yet again they did not. If they killed them off and stopped adding NPCs every expansion, the desire to have them as playable wouldn't be nearly as strong. I don't think any rational person would expect High Elves on the heel of Void Elves, certainly. So why do they keep adding High Elves? I think more likely than not they are inevitable as an Allied Race, love or hate the idea.
    In regards to your contention that you delivered me an intelligent retort, let me say that you didn't and provide evidence to back that up.

    "I have never seen a more fervent anti-High Elf advocate anywhere than Obelisk Kai. Literally every point that pro-High Elf people have shot his way he shoots down no matter the merit. I've never seen him yield a single point. I can't imagine being so miserable as to devote so much time to deny something from someone else that has absolutely no effect on you whatsoever. There are so many positive things you could do with your time that would be productive. Maybe learn to make YouTube videos explaining why I'm wrong and Ion is right, perhaps? Maybe advocate for something you do want like a specific Allied Race? Having such a charged focus of negativity is not good for anyones health. "

    This is a classic ad hominem attack, you did not address the substance of my critique of your work, you addressed me personally.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

    "Ad hominem (Latin for "to the man" or "to the person"[1]), short for argumentum ad hominem, is a fallacious argumentative strategy whereby genuine discussion of the topic at hand is avoided by instead attacking the character, motive, or other attribute of the person making the argument, or persons associated with the argument, rather than attacking the substance of the argument itself."

    In regards to the point that 'no rational person would expect High Elves on the heel of Void Elves', that glosses over the rationale for the creation of Void Elves in the first place. After all, if High Elves were intended, why create Void Elves? If there was a pressing need for a void themed race, why not Void Humans or Void Dwarves or Void Gnomes or Void Worgen? Why Void Elves? Because Void Elves were intended as a thalassian elf variant with it's own theme and flavour for the Alliance that wasn't a Blood/High Elf. To say High Elves aren't happening in the near future because Void Elves had to come first is a leap of logic grounded firmly in a denial of an obvious truth, that if they had any intention of adding High Elves, they would have done so within the first wave of allied races and nobody would have ever thought of Void Elves.

    As to why they 'keep adding High Elves' I thought the answer was obvious. That a small group of High Elves are aligned with the Alliance and that pretending they don't exist is also ridiculous within the context of the story. Although as far as I am aware they have added only two High Elf NPCs into BFA. Two High Elf NPCs is perfectly in line with a minor, non-playable faction that does exist but which has no real impact within the Alliance beyond the nod to the past.

    The use of the word 'inevitable' is very strong of course, particularly given the clear impression Blizzard has given us that they don't want to do this. From continually harping on about the population issue, to flat out telling you why it wasn't going to happen, they've made their position clear. It is one rooted in lore and gameplay. To set yourself up as a superior arbiter on lore (and either ignoring or minimising gameplay) and to declare their addition inevitable is arrogant and incorrect. Particularly as you already went to the bother of predicting their addition in 8.0 and you were proven wrong on that.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKznl2Y5wNU

    Your prognostication on this matter is not to be trusted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keihndeth View Post
    My intent was not to "stoke Obelisk Kai's fire". It was merely to respond to his attack on my video and my person, which I have a right to defend. While I fully recognize there is absolutely no rational discussion with him on this topic, what he was saying about me and my work deserved an intelligent retort, which I have given.

    The High Elf discussion is not going to go away until they add them to the game or the game ends. That is just kind of the reality of the situation and I think people need to except that. Ultimately, Blizzard is at fault for this whole fiasco. From TBC to BfA they continue to add High Elf NPCs and storyline in places they could add Humans, Worgen, Gnomes, etc., yet they do not. They could have folded the Silver Covenant and High Elves into the Void Elf camp, yet again they did not. If they killed them off and stopped adding NPCs every expansion, the desire to have them as playable wouldn't be nearly as strong. I don't think any rational person would expect High Elves on the heel of Void Elves, certainly. So why do they keep adding High Elves? I think more likely than not they are inevitable as an Allied Race, love or hate the idea.
    Aye true, you do have the right to defend your video My guess is the reason they keep adding them is wanting them to stay relevant, probably for some further down the line story purpose that we have yet to know. I mean both Alleria and Umbric have now brought up the "bringing Silvermoon back into Alliance fold" oh wait so did Vereesa as well in the Three Sisters comic.

    It's kind of very in your face now as far as the Thalassian Elf side story goes. 3x now there's this mention of Silvermoon and Elven loyalties along with it. Hmmm, interesting to speculate on, but nothing more concrete than hearsay seeds for the moment.

    Quote Originally Posted by Obelisk Kai View Post
    In regards to the point that 'no rational person would expect High Elves on the heel of Void Elves', that glosses over the rationale for the creation of Void Elves in the first place. After all, if High Elves were intended, why create Void Elves? If there was a pressing need for a void themed race, why not Void Humans or Void Dwarves or Void Gnomes or Void Worgen? Why Void Elves? Because Void Elves were intended as a thalassian elf variant with it's own theme and flavour for the Alliance that wasn't a Blood/High Elf. To say High Elves aren't happening in the near future because Void Elves had to come first is a leap of logic grounded firmly in a denial of an obvious truth, that if they had any intention of adding High Elves, they would have done so within the first wave of allied races and nobody would have ever thought of Void Elves.
    This has already been deduced if one pays attention. It's clear Void Elves were made to give Alleria more ability of her own and to act with her own army. This is very obviously shown in the newest Three Sisters Comic as well. Sylvanas lording over the Dead while Alleria lords over the Void. The only sister that is still "lacking" is Vereesa, yet she already has her own standing army in the Silver Covenent.

    Void Elves are also the most lacking in terms of lore, their unlock requirements having nothing to do with them as a race. Don't see how much more clear it can be that they were made to prop up Alleria rather than be something of their own.

    The extra lore they're getting is definitely helping flesh them out some more, but it is only in response to community backlash that they were (still are) the most lore-lacking and ham-fisted Allied Race released thus far.

    Just like how Sylvanas' letter in that one Alliance village talked about killing everyone to all serve her in the end, changed to something less "evil" and more "military" due to the community backlash of how "Sylvanas is basically being evil."

    Of course Obelisk won't see this blunder of his unless someone else quotes me again.

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    Awesome concept art. Do you done it by yourself ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlubberPuddy View Post
    Aye true, you do have the right to defend your video My guess is the reason they keep adding them is wanting them to stay relevant, probably for some further down the line story purpose that we have yet to know. I mean both Alleria and Umbric have now brought up the "bringing Silvermoon back into Alliance fold" oh wait so did Vereesa as well in the Three Sisters comic.

    It's kind of very in your face now as far as the Thalassian Elf side story goes. 3x now there's this mention of Silvermoon and Elven loyalties along with it. Hmmm, interesting to speculate on, but nothing more concrete than hearsay seeds for the moment.



    This has already been deduced if one pays attention. It's clear Void Elves were made to give Alleria more ability of her own and to act with her own army. This is very obviously shown in the newest Three Sisters Comic as well. Sylvanas lording over the Dead while Alleria lords over the Void. The only sister that is still "lacking" is Vereesa, yet she already has her own standing army in the Silver Covenent.

    Void Elves are also the most lacking in terms of lore, their unlock requirements having nothing to do with them as a race. Don't see how much more clear it can be that they were made to prop up Alleria rather than be something of their own.

    The extra lore they're getting is definitely helping flesh them out some more, but it is only in response to community backlash that they were (still are) the most lore-lacking and ham-fisted Allied Race released thus far.

    Just like how Sylvanas' letter in that one Alliance village talked about killing everyone to all serve her in the end, changed to something less "evil" and more "military" due to the community backlash of how "Sylvanas is basically being evil."

    Of course Obelisk won't see this blunder of his unless someone else quotes me again.
    Well, there's no help about the nay crew because: [video=youtube_share;GH3mP4kJe7o]https://youtu.be/GH3mP4kJe7o?t=9s[/vdeo]
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    I hope that Blizzard wises up to the potential goldmine they are passing on. Are the stockholders really going to side with protecting Ion's fragile ego over reaping huge profits?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khaza-R View Post
    Its a shame that VE look so much better in art than in game.

    A skin color like that (light non-bluish purple) is something I've been asking for since void elves were announced.
    Whatever...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeicideUH View Post
    A skin color like that (light non-bluish purple) is something I've been asking for since void elves were announced.
    Also realized no tentacle hair I think it's pretty obvious even Blizzard Artists understand what is the mass appeal attractiveness of Void Elves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlubberPuddy View Post
    Also realized no tentacle hair I think it's pretty obvious even Blizzard Artists understand what is the mass appeal attractiveness of Void Elves.
    Indeed.
    I really hate the tentacle hair.
    Whatever...

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlubberPuddy View Post
    Also realized no tentacle hair I think it's pretty obvious even Blizzard Artists understand what is the mass appeal attractiveness of Void Elves.
    Yeah I was almost faction-changing my belf rogue to void elf rogue because of that art. It's awesome. There are some swords in the game that look like those(can't remember the names, 2-3 with same look) and with the heritage armor, it would look so cool :P
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