1. #6421
    I think a lot of people forget that Blizz is a company that is more than willing to create a great leap just to make something happen (see Draenei retcon, Nightborne, Void Elves). It's within their degree of possibility to make such a leap. It's as easy as magically having some island north or east of Silvermooon that has a population of High Elves that perhaps became seafarers or connected with storm elementals or something. Name them Storm/Sea Elves, give them a blue/teal/mint color scheme, make them stand differently, maybe a little thicker and tadaaaaaa you create some new art assets, new culture, and players who really want to roleplay High Elves will just ignore that and wrap their backstory around Dalaran.

    Or the easier way is to just give Void Elves more customized options lmao

    But wow... It's amazing right, it's actually possible to make everyone happy.

    Well except for the pessimists, but there's no pleasing those people.

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    I will never understand why people are so against having other people ask for something that has solid basis when it doesn't even harm their own game experience.

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    Hoooo boi, never met someone so full of themselves, this is like Blood Elf identify manifested into real life. Responding to Bold portions.

    1) Void Elves are literally purple/blue colored Blood Elves with different haircuts.

    2) Nightborne are also a group of mana-addicted, pragmatic Elves, a niche that was formerly the sole thematics for Blood Elves. This proves by definition of existing that just because one race has a niche, doesn't mean that niche can't be shared by other races. Another example being Mag'har Orcs, who share the same cultural niches as Green Orcs, only one is uncorrupted and the other is fel-corrupted.

    Heck even Void Elves share the same culture, language, and body type (as @Ielenia pointed out) as Blood Elves. Therefore we can clearly see supported by in-game evidence that a niche existing for an already playable race doesn't exclude Allied Races from sharing that niche outright, or similar ones.

    3) The existence of Lightforged Draenei and Highmountain Tauren render this bold moot. Every Draenei can become Lightforged by undergoing a trial. Every Highmountain Tauren, though being blessed by Cenarius, have no added insight/strengths into Druidism or anything else than Mulgore Taurens. Both Taurens are of equal staying power.

    And saying a Blood Elf would put twigs and leaves in their hair and muddy themselves up with the Wilds is an abject refusal to acknowledge what Ion said about Blood Elves being the "majestic Elves" that they are. Everything in-game also supports that they consider what the other Horde races (Orcs, Trolls, Tauren) do are barbaric -- they wouldn't suddenly change their entire culture to fit that aesthetic.

    We see this through Void Elves, who are the extension of former Blood Elf society, still caring about their looks through chatter and their Heritage armor still being fanciful.

    4) Sorry but no one profusely argued for High Elves to look different from Blood Elves before Void Elves were released. It was clear as day that everyone wanted High Elves from those groups such as the Silver Covenant, etc. Players only took to making them look different in the first place was due to lots of anti-HE peeps coming in and saying "you're just wanting Blood Elves!" (which hello, is actually literally what Void Elves are) and so set out like Traycor and others elsewhere to see how can they integrate Alliance High Elves and not step on Blood Elves' toes?

    Oh by taking a concept Blood Elves no longer profusely use in their society and blowing it up for the Alliance High Elves. Does this sound familiar to anyone? Because that's exactly what they did with the Nightborne.

    Nightborne are the Night Elf Highborne concept (the Highborne which joined the Night Elves in Cata) which was barely used in Night Elf society, blown up and made its own thing for the entire existence of the Nightborne.

    Void Elves offer nothing about what an Alliance High Elf is, and neither do the Blood Elves - who btw, don't even refer to themselves as High Elves anymore and would hate to be called that themselves. The whole "Blood Elves are High Elves" thing is just made to downplay the requests for wanting High Elves in the first place since Void Elves just released.

    Even all new lore coming out that relates to Blood Elves shows how passionate they are about being BLOOD Elves and not High Elves. Of course, just like the reality of the Horde player population, the Blood Elf players don't care for all that bullshit and just want to play pretty looking flesh-tone elves and want that kept unique to their faction. But yeah they're also totally okay with getting Purple Elves which used to be unique to the Alliance, no REEEing there.



    1) Different skin tones, muscle tones, stances? Oh wow, sounds very similar to what the pro-High Elf peeps have been requesting all along.

    2) Void Elves ARE Former Blood Elves. To deny this is to deny "Word of God" as Ion himself has stated as well that Void Elves were made to give "something like a Blood Elf to the Alliance" and all new lore since their creation supports the fact that these are former Blood Elves who got cast out from Silvermoon, hence being exiled Blood Elves. To keep denying this is certainly being purposefully obtuse.

    Void Elves don't even have their own "culture" as they are so recently separated from the Blood Elves. They've just been doused in Void. It hasn't taken away their narcissistic love for themselves or any finer design wear/clothing. They're literally just cast out, "hobo" Blood Elves doused by Void.

    3) Nightborne broke the faction wall by giving a purple elf variant to Horde. It's as simple as Ion saying, "if you want to play a fair-skinned..elf" yada yada "go play Horde." Then the same line of logic (by "Word of God" btw) should apply for Alliance: "If you want to play a purple-skinned..elf" "go play Alli-" oh wait NO YOU CAN PLAY PURPLE ELVES ON HORDE TOO!

    4) Ion listed reasons that in no way clashed with any of the theorycrafting that's been happening with High Elves. Even Taliesin, who basically formulated all the pro-HE arguments into one video, made a response video stating that Ion's response didn't change since Blizzcon and thus nothing that was said was any new information that clashes with the post Blizzcon theorycrafting.

    Besides, you don't need to look far to know that most of what Ion said is easily refuted by the fact that Red Shirt Guy (who is a stickler for lore reasons to game additions) and even Wowhead themselves (both also groups that have more authority in the wow community than random MMO-C posters) both showed how refutable Ion's response was. Not to mention that other players who aren't as invested in the topic can also see how contradictory Ion's aka "Word of God's" statements were.

    5) Maybe Obelisk isn't finding it because he puts people like me who provide the info on ignore (or chooses to ignore me without being on ignore, I still have no idea ) so he can't find it?

    6) High Elves also contain skin colors that Blood Elves, to this day, do not have access to. And hairstyle change is a non-argument. Conversely, the Void is not required for Blood Elves to grow better facial hair yet they have it anyway so the same customization that can easily be differentiated are the ones that Obelisk is making the biggest deal about.

    Also ignoring that Void Elves thematically are what Blood Elves used to be before TBC ended: Pragmatic elves that were dealing with a chaotic magic form they couldn't handle.

    7) The closest analogue to the Nightborne are the Night Elf Highborne Mages that have been playable since Cataclysm. Who carry on the traditional Highborne themes until they were taken from the Alliance Night Elf Highborne and blown up and made their own thing "For the Horde"

    8) This is extremely petty to say and even incorrect at that, every Blood Elf Hunter is made a member of the Farstrider organization just as every Human and Dwarf Paladin is a member of the Silver Hand upon creation. So yeah you in fact can play as a Farstrider. This has nothing to do with making Alliance High Elves (an UNplayable Race) on Alliance actually playable.
    This is so on spot, i can't even.

  3. #6423
    Quote Originally Posted by Syferite View Post
    I think a lot of people forget that Blizz is a company that is more than willing to create a great leap just to make something happen (see Draenei retcon, Nightborne, Void Elves). It's within their degree of possibility to make such a leap. It's as easy as magically having some island north or east of Silvermooon that has a population of High Elves that perhaps became seafarers or connected with storm elementals or something. Name them Storm/Sea Elves, give them a blue/teal/mint color scheme, make them stand differently, maybe a little thicker and tadaaaaaa you create some new art assets, new culture, and players who really want to roleplay High Elves will just ignore that and wrap their backstory around Dalaran.

    Or the easier way is to just give Void Elves more customized options lmao

    But wow... It's amazing right, it's actually possible to make everyone happy.

    Well except for the pessimists, but there's no pleasing those people.
    Please No. I mean Alliance already has way too many Blue/Purple Elves.

    Night Elves and Void Elves are enough already.

    Can the Alliance just have a different variety skinned Elf Color. Ether White, Whiteish Pink Color, and Brown Please.

    If Blizzard starts adding another generic blueberry Elven race that continues to ruin the past lore then any respect I have given for them would be zero.

    Can we please not add any more blue elven races. Its getting to a point where they are starting to become not just the most generic dull races in wow but all of Fantasy Period.

  4. #6424
    Quote Originally Posted by Enkrypt View Post
    I'm resolute in not wanting the Alliance to have a blue-eyed Blood Elf. But, I must concede, Blizzard owes you something. Whether it's a mere truthful explanation that addresses your concerns point by point, a roadmap for the future of the High Elves, or a playable race that fulfills the lore niche that can please the most radical player from either faction. I'll no longer attempt to demoralize anyone that's respectfully campaigning for a version of this race that will leave both sides happy.

    Thanks for talking and explaining.
    I think the best thing they can do is just write Void Elves as basically High Elves that use dark powers but are no less heroic than any of the other Alliance races. I understand how that will be upsetting to some people because "dark = evil/corrupting" to some folks here, but that already seems to be the direction Blizzard is going with them when you look at Umbric and how him and his followers were never actually Horde loyalists to begin with. They were the segment of the Blood Elf populace that disagreed with Silvermoon's decision to go Horde, and at least Umbric says he fought alongside the Humans during the Troll Wars. They also say they line up with the Alliance's ideals and are not there merely for convenience, so I think Blizzard ought to really commit to that and make them champions of hope and justice, but with their flavor being using shadow rather than nature, arcane, or light. What better way to play up the faction theme of bringing light to the darkest corners than to have a race who has conquered the darkness so much that they wield it without corruption?

    Maybe somewhere down the line, Blizzard could maybe ease up on the Void Elves being perpetually stuck with blue and purple skin and maybe give them a bit more High Elf-ish options. Could either explain it with something like "they've fully mastered the Void and regained some of their lost features" or just with those second wave of High and Blood Elves training in the Rift who will likely be like Alleria where they keep their features as they gain training from Locus-Walker on utilizing the Void as a weapon.

    The pieces are certainly there. I'm in the camp that doubts we'll get anymore elves for a long while, so I think the best idea is to just make the Void Elves carry the torch and be the High Elves that people want, while also satisfying people who wanted a race that added something thematically new and different to the Alliance.
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  5. #6425
    Quote Originally Posted by Ogren View Post
    I think the best thing they can do is just write Void Elves as basically High Elves that use dark powers but are no less heroic than any of the other Alliance races. Hell, that already seems to be the direction Blizzard is going with them when you look at Umbric and how him and his followers were never actually Horde loyalists to begin with.
    I think this is the intended direction.

    The pieces are certainly there. I'm in the camp that doubts we'll get anymore elves for a long while, so I think the best idea is to just make the Void Elves carry the torch and be the High Elves that people want, while also satisfying people who wanted a race that added something thematically new and different to the Alliance.
    I'll throw a crazy prediction here. I first thought of it half-joking, but as time went it began to make sense. It's not what I'd like to see, but what I think we may get down the line.

    Put these together:
    - Blizzard introduces void elves;
    - Void elves are currently proving their worth to the Alliance
    - Both Vereesa and, more importantly, in-game Alleria say that they know Silvermoon will return to the Alliance
    - Blizzard seems intent to give Kalimdor to the Horde and EK to the Alliance

    I think that, as the war rages on, later patches will show the Horde invading the Myst Isles, maybe spearheaded by the draenei-hating Mag'har. At the same time, the Alliance will invade Silvermoon.

    I think at some point things will go really bad and the Sunwell will be corrupted. The corrupted well will explode, covering Quel'thalas in darkness and transforming a sizeable population of blood elves, as well as the high elves among the Alliance troops, into void elves. Thus void elves become a "real" race rather than a small elite force, and the Alliance high elves end up incorporated into them.

    I don't know if the corruption will be the Alliance's doing or some kind of Horde retaliation ("If we won't have it, no one will"), but I think it makes more sense on the later, or else it would be hard to explain why the newly-cursed thalassians would not hate the Alliance for their fate.

    Again, this is not what I want to see (my opinion on what Blizzard should do can be found here), but it's a possible result of the faction war.
    Whatever...

  6. #6426
    Something like that is certainly what I'd like to see from Blizzard since it seems like they're pulling no punches and making some really spicy developments in this type of expansion. Although, I have doubts that they'll go as far as making the Sunwell corrupted, because the Blood Elves just got a new customization option with lore tied to the Sunwell explaining why. Maybe Blizzard could explain it some other way, but I doubt it.

    Void Elves should also get an icy blue hair color since their Void Warlock NPC's had that before being changed.

    Expanding my thoughts on the High Elf and Blood Elf divide, it's an unpopular opinion but one thing I wish Blizzard had done was make Thalassian society separated on magic types they'd pursue to make up for the loss of the Sunwell rather than it being "addicted elves vs. vegan elves". I would have liked if Alliance-loyalist elves had decided to pursue Frost and Shadow whereas the Horde ones went more with Fire and Fel, later both also having Light after the Sunwell came back but not fully giving up on their magical practices which I think was a mistake on Blizzard's part in regards to Blood Elves. If Blizzard wanted Alliance to have shadow-themed elves, I think I would have liked that direction more than how they went about it with Void Elves. (Although part of that is also because I just find shadow-themed elves more interesting than people's concept of High Elves, and personally think Void Elves may lack narrative but make up for it by being a very unique addition to the Alliance.)

  7. #6427
    Quote Originally Posted by DeicideUH View Post
    I think this is the intended direction.



    I'll throw a crazy prediction here. I first thought of it half-joking, but as time went it began to make sense. It's not what I'd like to see, but what I think we may get down the line.

    Put these together:
    - Blizzard introduces void elves;
    - Void elves are currently proving their worth to the Alliance
    - Both Vereesa and, more importantly, in-game Alleria say that they know Silvermoon will return to the Alliance
    - Blizzard seems intent to give Kalimdor to the Horde and EK to the Alliance

    I think that, as the war rages on, later patches will show the Horde invading the Myst Isles, maybe spearheaded by the draenei-hating Mag'har. At the same time, the Alliance will invade Silvermoon.

    I think at some point things will go really bad and the Sunwell will be corrupted. The corrupted well will explode, covering Quel'thalas in darkness and transforming a sizeable population of blood elves, as well as the high elves among the Alliance troops, into void elves. Thus void elves become a "real" race rather than a small elite force, and the Alliance high elves end up incorporated into them.

    I don't know if the corruption will be the Alliance's doing or some kind of Horde retaliation ("If we won't have it, no one will"), but I think it makes more sense on the later, or else it would be hard to explain why the newly-cursed thalassians would not hate the Alliance for their fate.

    Again, this is not what I want to see (my opinion on what Blizzard should do can be found here), but it's a possible result of the faction war.
    From the Nightborne introduction quest-line it seems clear the Sunwell is very susceptible to void energies in its vicinity . It doesn't seem to take much to change it into a kind of void portal The only problem is that it is probably as dangerous to void elves as it is to anyone else. Both the sunwell (when purely arcane) and the well of eternity were used in the past to turn them into a portal for the burning legion/Sargeras.

    A destroyed Sunwell could be interesting since the Blood Elves could solve their mana addiction problems with the help of the Nightborne while the High Elves would have to find alternative sources of mana which would once again increase the difference between Blood and High-Elves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ogren View Post
    Something like that is certainly what I'd like to see from Blizzard since it seems like they're pulling no punches and making some really spicy developments in this type of expansion. Although, I have doubts that they'll go as far as making the Sunwell corrupted, because the Blood Elves just got a new customization option with lore tied to the Sunwell explaining why. Maybe Blizzard could explain it some other way, but I doubt it.

    Void Elves should also get an icy blue hair color since their Void Warlock NPC's had that before being changed.

    Expanding my thoughts on the High Elf and Blood Elf divide, it's an unpopular opinion but one thing I wish Blizzard had done was make Thalassian society separated on magic types they'd pursue to make up for the loss of the Sunwell rather than it being "addicted elves vs. vegan elves". I would have liked if Alliance-loyalist elves had decided to pursue Frost and Shadow whereas the Horde ones went more with Fire and Fel, later both also having Light after the Sunwell came back but not fully giving up on their magical practices which I think was a mistake on Blizzard's part in regards to Blood Elves. If Blizzard wanted Alliance to have shadow-themed elves, I think I would have liked that direction more than how they went about it with Void Elves. (Although part of that is also because I just find shadow-themed elves more interesting than people's concept of High Elves, and personally think Void Elves may lack narrative but make up for it by being a very unique addition to the Alliance.)
    The High Elves could be based on frost, if they decided to tie them to the blue dragonflight. Maybe Kalecgos sees that the High Elves need his boon in order to compete with the shadow empowered Void Elves or the light empowered Blood Elves on equal footing. Perhaps this also gives them faintly draconic qualities to their appearance, not unlike the Nozdormu High Elf form model, except based on the blue dragons instead of the bronze.

  9. #6429
    What we have heard from Ion in regards to the very reasons why High Elves have not been added as a playable race, is due to the concern of blurring faction lines between Alliance and Horde; because of the similarities between Quel'dorei and Sin'dorei. Blue eyes, pale skin and light hair is apparently not differentiating enough in terms of appearance from the Blood Elves. He also argues that High Elves are far too few in number to be an allied race.

    Sure, fair points. But then Void Elves are added. Literally a tiny group of blood elves who act as void-sucking sponges. Seeking refuge with the Alliance as they have been cast out of Silvermoon.

    I, personally, would accept Ion's arguments as to why High Elves should not be playable. However, his points are contradictory, since we have received corrupted blood elves (may I point out - from the Horde) with slight difference in skin colour, hair tone and hairstyles.

    One could argue that if High Elves would have been added instead, you could differentiate them with different customization options in skin tone, hair colour and hairstyles (just like they did with Void Elves). Yet, in that case it would not work (?).

    We could also focus on the very apparent lore reasons as to why the Quel'dorei and Sin'dorei differ, though, those were not Ion's points as to why High Elves should not be implemented.

    I would very much like to see High Elves added, but with Void Elves now existing by (as for the time being) seemingly an assgrab, I do not see it as possibility, which is unfortunate.

  10. #6430
    It's cute that we have 339 pages of this discussion. I can undertand that somebody has very deep desire to get playable high elf, but why are people so determined to disagree? If they would add high elves, you won't be able to sleep for three years.
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    If you are suggesting to take my Night Elfs Shadowmeld away, then please find some pike to run yourself through, tyvm.

  11. #6431
    Quote Originally Posted by Garfurion View Post
    From the Nightborne introduction quest-line it seems clear the Sunwell is very susceptible to void energies in its vicinity.
    This is something that I find strange. If the Sunwell is a fount of Light, it should not be weakened against Void. On the contrary, it should have harmed Alleria and not be easily manipulated by Ethereals.

    There's one Il'gynoth quote that bugs me: "Its surface burns bright, masking the shadows bellow". Or something like that.

    Maybe the Sunwell's power is decaying and no one (or maybe only Rommath) is aware of it?
    Whatever...

  12. #6432
    Quote Originally Posted by DeicideUH View Post
    This is something that I find strange. If the Sunwell is a fount of Light, it should not be weakened against Void. On the contrary, it should have harmed Alleria and not be easily manipulated by Ethereals.

    There's one Il'gynoth quote that bugs me: "Its surface burns bright, masking the shadows bellow". Or something like that.

    Maybe the Sunwell's power is decaying and no one (or maybe only Rommath) is aware of it?
    That is possible. It was created with the spark of a Naaru, and Naaru are dualistic beings. This means the Sunwell may eventually shift over to a Void well, and Void beings can hasten this process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeicideUH View Post
    This is something that I find strange. If the Sunwell is a fount of Light, it should not be weakened against Void. On the contrary, it should have harmed Alleria and not be easily manipulated by Ethereals.

    There's one Il'gynoth quote that bugs me: "Its surface burns bright, masking the shadows bellow". Or something like that.

    Maybe the Sunwell's power is decaying and no one (or maybe only Rommath) is aware of it?
    Not just the Sunwell, but for a long time now WoW has kept the theme of this "easy duality" between objects of Shadow (Void) and Light. Remember how the Ashbringer was forged? It started out as some shadow object but got purified with a bunch of light.

    "Highlord Alexandros Mograine took a mysterious, dark crystal from a dead orc warlock. The crystal was the "living embodiment of shadow" and it came from Draenor.[2] Upon touching it, Mograine's hand became tainted and could not be healed.[6]

    Mograine kept the crystal a secret for years until just before the Scourge invasion of Lordaeron. He then revealed it to the other leaders of the Silver Hand, suggesting that they try to find the crystal's antithesis — a manifestation of the Holy Light itself — that could be used against the undead in the impending invasion. Mograine's peers were appalled at the sight of the dark crystal and tried to destroy it with holy spells. Unexpectedly, the crystal absorbed the spells and became the crystal of pure light that Mograine mentioned moments before. They agreed to forge a weapon from the crystal that would smite the undead with such power that only a cloud of ash would remain in its wake.[2]"

    https://wow.gamepedia.com/Ashbringer

    I applaud them for laying out these foundations so far ahead of its time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hellotoot View Post
    I would very much like to see High Elves added, but with Void Elves now existing by (as for the time being) seemingly an assgrab, I do not see it as possibility, which is unfortunate.
    Aye, perhaps at another junction they can be a plausible addition. Allied Races at least, closes that gap just a little bit more with their various reskins. We'll have to see how they finish out the 2.0 of other races to get a better idea of it all, and the pacing with which they're going to release any more Allied Races, seems like they're trying to now rein in people's expectations at how often Allied Races will be added moving forward.

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    High Elf-related storyline'd be interesting in the current context, in which so far, Alliance as playing out as the "objective" good.

    Perhaps a change in High Elf leadership makes them lean towards the Horde and Silvermoon more. Sylvanas/Lor'thamar could indeed try to use the High Elves to advance some scheme to weaken the Alliance.

    Perhaps some incident happens, which puts High Elves in a bad light, Alleria with her void whispers might do something really stupid, and force every High elf to become a Void elf or die. Even worse, she could convince other Alliance leaders that she's doing what's right and give her their support in this.

    If the Alliance genocide an entire race within their faction, it does wonders for spicing up the storyline and questioning the Alliance's motives.

    Remaning High Elves would basically become Blood Elf cosmetic options, since those that survived or didn't turn to the Void would go back to Silvermoon or be neutral NPC's.


    Point is, Blizzard have written themselves into such a corner that the only ways out are to A) Make High Elf playable as an Alliance race, or B) An event leads the Alliance into genociding all the High Elves within their faction, and anything that's left of them becomes a Blood Elf cosmetic.

  15. #6435
    Quote Originally Posted by FlubberPuddy View Post
    Not just the Sunwell, but for a long time now WoW has kept the theme of this "easy duality" between objects of Shadow (Void) and Light. Remember how the Ashbringer was forged? It started out as some shadow object but got purified with a bunch of light.

    "Highlord Alexandros Mograine took a mysterious, dark crystal from a dead orc warlock. The crystal was the "living embodiment of shadow" and it came from Draenor.[2] Upon touching it, Mograine's hand became tainted and could not be healed.[6]

    Mograine kept the crystal a secret for years until just before the Scourge invasion of Lordaeron. He then revealed it to the other leaders of the Silver Hand, suggesting that they try to find the crystal's antithesis — a manifestation of the Holy Light itself — that could be used against the undead in the impending invasion. Mograine's peers were appalled at the sight of the dark crystal and tried to destroy it with holy spells. Unexpectedly, the crystal absorbed the spells and became the crystal of pure light that Mograine mentioned moments before. They agreed to forge a weapon from the crystal that would smite the undead with such power that only a cloud of ash would remain in its wake.[2]"

    https://wow.gamepedia.com/Ashbringer

    I applaud them for laying out these foundations so far ahead of its time.
    Some people even theorize that the dark crystal is a fragment from K'ara (aka the Dark Star).
    And the Sunwell was reignited by a dark fragment of M'uru, seemly purified by Velen with Light.

    So... what if the Sunwell is dying? And it decays as the blood elves drain it?

    I'm seriously considering that, by the end of BfA, for some reason, the Sunwell may become a shadow source, turning more thalassians into void elves.
    Whatever...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeicideUH View Post
    Some people even theorize that the dark crystal is a fragment from K'ara (aka the Dark Star).
    And the Sunwell was reignited by a dark fragment of M'uru, seemly purified by Velen with Light.

    So... what if the Sunwell is dying? And it decays as the blood elves drain it?

    I'm seriously considering that, by the end of BfA, for some reason, the Sunwell may become a shadow source, turning more thalassians into void elves.
    While it could definitely shake things up, I doubt Blizzard would ever go through something like this. It'd be like something happening to Nigh Elves that makes them lose their connection to Elune, don't think Blizzard would ever shake things up that far, especially that the Sunwell is pretty much required for the Blood Elves to exist, same as the Nightborne needed the Nightwell (before they didn't need it anymore due to Arcan'dor fruit).

  17. #6437
    Quote Originally Posted by FlubberPuddy View Post
    While it could definitely shake things up, I doubt Blizzard would ever go through something like this. It'd be like something happening to Nigh Elves that makes them lose their connection to Elune, don't think Blizzard would ever shake things up that far, especially that the Sunwell is pretty much required for the Blood Elves to exist, same as the Nightborne needed the Nightwell (before they didn't need it anymore due to Arcan'dor fruit).
    Blood elves are not as dependent of the Sunwell as the nightborne were to the Nightwell. They don't wither and die, they just feel the pains of withdrawal from addiction. Even their wretched state is caused by overindulging in magic, rather than abstinence from it.

    Also, maybe the Arcan'dor can help the blood elves as well? They'd get even closer to the nightborne.

    And finally, I think Blizzard is going to shake things up with BfA, and next expansion may very well be some kind of soft reboot (i.e.: small timeskip + revamped Horde-dominated Kalimdor + revamped Alliance-dominated Eastern Kingdoms).
    Last edited by DeicideUH; 2018-06-18 at 07:48 PM.
    Whatever...

  18. #6438
    I hope Ion appreciates this idea.

    And that one hairstyle looks like a quail.

  19. #6439
    Quote Originally Posted by DeicideUH View Post
    Blood elves are not as dependent of the Sunwell as the nightborne were to the Nightwell. They don't wither and die, they just feel the pains of withdrawal from addiction. Even their wretched state is caused by overindulging in magic, rather than abstinence from it.

    Also, maybe the Arcan'dor can help the blood elves as well? They'd get even closer to the nightborne.

    And finally, I think Blizzard is going to shake things up with BfA, and next expansion may very well be some kind of soft reboot (i.e.: small timeskip + revamped Horde-dominated Kalimdor + revamped Alliance-dominated Eastern Kingdoms).
    The Warcraft Encyclopedia/Blood Elves

    According to the top priests and medics on Azeroth, the only high elves who perished due to the Sunwell's loss were the very old, the very young, and elves who were already in poor health.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhlor View Post
    The Warcraft Encyclopedia/Blood Elves

    According to the top priests and medics on Azeroth, the only high elves who perished due to the Sunwell's loss were the very old, the very young, and elves who were already in poor health.
    Yeah, blood elf magic addiction was akin to real world substance addictions. You feel the craving for it, you can't concentrate on other tasks, you get edgy. The wretched condition is like a heavy crack addiction in which you do nothing but focus on getting your fix. It's not a natural degradation due to lack of magic.

    Those elves who died were the ones who already were very vulnerable before the loss of the Sunwell. The sudden abstinence pushed them over the brink and they couldn't cope with it.
    Whatever...

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